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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Happy Shopper on Feb 12, 2014 16:57:24 GMT 1, Almost all talk about the "artist" and barely any about the image. Kind of backwards, eh? Whatever this happens to be, it solidifies what a majority is most concerned with. Not in this case... the identity of the artist was made a big deal of by the gallery... so that's the discussion.
Funny really, as how many street artists do we know the real identity of?... or care?
Almost all talk about the "artist" and barely any about the image. Kind of backwards, eh? Whatever this happens to be, it solidifies what a majority is most concerned with. Not in this case... the identity of the artist was made a big deal of by the gallery... so that's the discussion. Funny really, as how many street artists do we know the real identity of?... or care?
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Poster Bob on Feb 12, 2014 16:58:14 GMT 1, Hah, bookmarked. I like the description, 99.9% chance it's not Banksy!
On eBay already!!!!! A grey one for $500 buy it now
Hah, bookmarked. I like the description, 99.9% chance it's not Banksy! On eBay already!!!!! A grey one for $500 buy it now
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by gorkie on Feb 12, 2014 17:00:17 GMT 1, Almost all talk about the "artist" and barely any about the image. Kind of backwards, eh? Whatever this happens to be, it solidifies what a majority is most concerned with. Not in this case... the identity of the artist was made a big deal of by the gallery... so that's the discussion. Funny really, as how many street artists do we know the real identity of?... or care? I'm just curious. Where do you see that the gallery made a big deal about the artist?
Because they used the word MYSTERIOUS?
Almost all talk about the "artist" and barely any about the image. Kind of backwards, eh? Whatever this happens to be, it solidifies what a majority is most concerned with. Not in this case... the identity of the artist was made a big deal of by the gallery... so that's the discussion. Funny really, as how many street artists do we know the real identity of?... or care? I'm just curious. Where do you see that the gallery made a big deal about the artist? Because they used the word MYSTERIOUS?
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Dr Plip on Feb 12, 2014 17:01:41 GMT 1, On eBay already!!!!! A grey one for $500 buy it now "Most talked about Urban Art print of the moment "
MUCH LOL.
On eBay already!!!!! A grey one for $500 buy it now "Most talked about Urban Art print of the moment " MUCH LOL.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Dexter Bulldog on Feb 12, 2014 17:02:56 GMT 1, still very surprised this guy just sold 150 posters in less than an hour.. chalk it up to people still saying "if i was only walking on central park south that october day i surely would have bought all those canvases at that booth, i better buy this print just in case, and that t shirt, and that sign, etc"
still very surprised this guy just sold 150 posters in less than an hour.. chalk it up to people still saying "if i was only walking on central park south that october day i surely would have bought all those canvases at that booth, i better buy this print just in case, and that t shirt, and that sign, etc"
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by bmerel on Feb 12, 2014 17:06:50 GMT 1, Almost all talk about the "artist" and barely any about the image. Kind of backwards, eh? Whatever this happens to be, it solidifies what a majority is most concerned with. Not in this case... the identity of the artist was made a big deal of by the gallery... so that's the discussion. Funny really, as how many street artists do we know the real identity of?... or care?
I'm referring to the overwhelming amount of talk towards WHO the artist is as opposed to WHAT the image is. I'll venture 90% towards WHO.
Almost all talk about the "artist" and barely any about the image. Kind of backwards, eh? Whatever this happens to be, it solidifies what a majority is most concerned with. Not in this case... the identity of the artist was made a big deal of by the gallery... so that's the discussion. Funny really, as how many street artists do we know the real identity of?... or care? I'm referring to the overwhelming amount of talk towards WHO the artist is as opposed to WHAT the image is. I'll venture 90% towards WHO.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by bmerel on Feb 12, 2014 17:07:09 GMT 1, .
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by maddoghoek100 on Feb 12, 2014 17:11:01 GMT 1, I don't want to talk about the artist and i dont want to talk about the image. All of that is a red herring for the real issue. I want to talk about the gallery that reped the artist, promoted the print, and profited from the sale.
- The artist was deceptive, and had intent to create the appearance of being banksy - The gallery went along with it, and whether they want to admit it or not crafted their messaging carefully to re-enforce the effect - The piece was overpriced or GP charges WAY to much for printing, someone profited handsomely by taking advantage of others
Im saddened that in all this nonsense a good artist has been overshadowed. Bummer for Pez. I like Pez, i likely wont buy a Pez piece from GP. I hope Pez finds a different printer for his next release and the sales of his originals. Pez, if you are reading this, stick to dealing with the Under the Bridge guys. Great folks doing right by their customers. They would never be associated with this kind of garbage marketing.
Almost all talk about the "artist" and barely any about the image. Kind of backwards, eh? Whatever this happens to be, it solidifies what a majority is most concerned with.
I don't want to talk about the artist and i dont want to talk about the image. All of that is a red herring for the real issue. I want to talk about the gallery that reped the artist, promoted the print, and profited from the sale. - The artist was deceptive, and had intent to create the appearance of being banksy - The gallery went along with it, and whether they want to admit it or not crafted their messaging carefully to re-enforce the effect - The piece was overpriced or GP charges WAY to much for printing, someone profited handsomely by taking advantage of others Im saddened that in all this nonsense a good artist has been overshadowed. Bummer for Pez. I like Pez, i likely wont buy a Pez piece from GP. I hope Pez finds a different printer for his next release and the sales of his originals. Pez, if you are reading this, stick to dealing with the Under the Bridge guys. Great folks doing right by their customers. They would never be associated with this kind of garbage marketing. Almost all talk about the "artist" and barely any about the image. Kind of backwards, eh? Whatever this happens to be, it solidifies what a majority is most concerned with.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by mawge on Feb 12, 2014 17:12:39 GMT 1, has the one on ebay already sold?!
has the one on ebay already sold?!
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Poster Bob on Feb 12, 2014 17:16:21 GMT 1, I think it was ended, not sold.
I think it was ended, not sold.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by mikehaspey on Feb 12, 2014 17:17:23 GMT 1, Either ended by seller or sold, £303. Unreal
Either ended by seller or sold, £303. Unreal
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 17:19:42 GMT 1, Yes it's gone - but did it sell?
Yes it's gone - but did it sell?
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by mawge on Feb 12, 2014 17:20:38 GMT 1, did anyone press watch before it ended? if so you should be able to click on it and see...
did anyone press watch before it ended? if so you should be able to click on it and see...
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by shechtmr on Feb 12, 2014 17:24:12 GMT 1, it sold for $500 US
it sold for $500 US
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by mikehaspey on Feb 12, 2014 17:29:24 GMT 1, I was watching, it just says ended when I go onto it
I was watching, it just says ended when I go onto it
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by biscuitsandgravy on Feb 12, 2014 17:30:28 GMT 1, shows being sold on my end. same with watchcount, shows it as sold.
shows being sold on my end. same with watchcount, shows it as sold.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by gorkie on Feb 12, 2014 17:42:53 GMT 1, I'm going to quite enjoy my little pachyderm/rat/Banksy/Mr. Brainwash/JPS/Satan/kill your loved one print.
I think it's a nice little doohickey.
I'm going to quite enjoy my little pachyderm/rat/Banksy/Mr. Brainwash/JPS/Satan/kill your loved one print.
I think it's a nice little doohickey.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by maddoghoek100 on Feb 12, 2014 17:49:05 GMT 1, i dont know why anyone would be surprised that this sold on ebay. If the person is smart enough to set up the facebook page to begin with and patient enough to post only official images for as long as they did. Why on earth would anyone think they did not post the listing and buy it to start creating a fake sales history.
It is one thing to grab 15k from a single release, but with a fake sales history on ebay at 500 a pop, the next outis release could net 20k. I imagine there are 2 or 3 more to come so could be a years salary for this unsavory fellow and a nice percentage for GP.
Fun history lesson, maybe more interesting to the US folks on the board rather than the brits. Many are familiar with the Kennedy Family. Most people think the Kennedy fortune was built on bootlegging. At least that was delivering a product people actually wanted. The real wealth came when Joe Kennedy put his bootlegging money to work robbing everyday folks through stock manipulation. That was just before he we put the fox in the hen house and he became head of chairman of the Securities and Exchange commission. Here is an excerpt from The Sins of the Father - by Ronald Kessler
"Joe made fabulous sums through what were known as stock pools. This was a way of manipulating the market by forming a syndicate and arranging for the members to trade stock back and forth. By bidding the price of the stock higher, the pool members created the appearance that the public was bidding up the price. In fact, the syndicate members retained the profits, and when the trading public bit by joining the action, the syndicate members sold out, leaving the public with losses. Joe called the practice "advertising" the stock."
just a fun nugget you can use at your next dinner party
i dont know why anyone would be surprised that this sold on ebay. If the person is smart enough to set up the facebook page to begin with and patient enough to post only official images for as long as they did. Why on earth would anyone think they did not post the listing and buy it to start creating a fake sales history.
It is one thing to grab 15k from a single release, but with a fake sales history on ebay at 500 a pop, the next outis release could net 20k. I imagine there are 2 or 3 more to come so could be a years salary for this unsavory fellow and a nice percentage for GP.
Fun history lesson, maybe more interesting to the US folks on the board rather than the brits. Many are familiar with the Kennedy Family. Most people think the Kennedy fortune was built on bootlegging. At least that was delivering a product people actually wanted. The real wealth came when Joe Kennedy put his bootlegging money to work robbing everyday folks through stock manipulation. That was just before he we put the fox in the hen house and he became head of chairman of the Securities and Exchange commission. Here is an excerpt from The Sins of the Father - by Ronald Kessler
"Joe made fabulous sums through what were known as stock pools. This was a way of manipulating the market by forming a syndicate and arranging for the members to trade stock back and forth. By bidding the price of the stock higher, the pool members created the appearance that the public was bidding up the price. In fact, the syndicate members retained the profits, and when the trading public bit by joining the action, the syndicate members sold out, leaving the public with losses. Joe called the practice "advertising" the stock."
just a fun nugget you can use at your next dinner party
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Shoot Again on Feb 12, 2014 17:54:19 GMT 1, Somebody must have a good laugh somewhere watching this and cashing on his master plans ! ;-) I have to say that watching all this from far away (not interested at all by the print myself) was quite entertaining and instructive ;-) As mentioned before, good for those who will happily have this print on their wall for some time (even though I believe the pricing was wrong), but I also agree that it was bad form it got released at the same that time as PEZ's...
Somebody must have a good laugh somewhere watching this and cashing on his master plans ! ;-) I have to say that watching all this from far away (not interested at all by the print myself) was quite entertaining and instructive ;-) As mentioned before, good for those who will happily have this print on their wall for some time (even though I believe the pricing was wrong), but I also agree that it was bad form it got released at the same that time as PEZ's...
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 18:02:25 GMT 1, Maybe PEZ was aware/involved - the Art of Outis Instagram did have a screen grab image on earlier with the email address pez@fbi.al on it...then the image was replaced with the What would Banksy do? photo.
Is PEZ = Outis?
Maybe PEZ was aware/involved - the Art of Outis Instagram did have a screen grab image on earlier with the email address pez@fbi.al on it...then the image was replaced with the What would Banksy do? photo.
Is PEZ = Outis?
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 12, 2014 18:22:16 GMT 1, Feb 12th, the day the world officially went mad !! over 150 people have just spent over £100 pounds each on a picture of an Elephant, a Rat and some flowers in the hope that the "unknown" artist may be Banksy himself !!?? This has been hyped beyond all recognition, and I bet the person behind it cannot believe their luck, and how easy it is to part people from there hard earned money!
This whole thing has left me wondering what`s next, it seems anyone can now make it as a sell out artist, create an image using other peoples ideas, get a load printed, don't give yourself a name, then suggest that you may be BANKSY, and hey presto, sell out prints week in week out #speechless
Feb 12th, the day the world officially went mad !! over 150 people have just spent over £100 pounds each on a picture of an Elephant, a Rat and some flowers in the hope that the "unknown" artist may be Banksy himself !!?? This has been hyped beyond all recognition, and I bet the person behind it cannot believe their luck, and how easy it is to part people from there hard earned money!
This whole thing has left me wondering what`s next, it seems anyone can now make it as a sell out artist, create an image using other peoples ideas, get a load printed, don't give yourself a name, then suggest that you may be BANKSY, and hey presto, sell out prints week in week out #speechless
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by gatecrasher on Feb 12, 2014 18:31:30 GMT 1, Guys, it's a nice image and it's £90.
No-one's been tricked or duped into buying it. If people have a spare £90 to buy a piece of art then why not ?
Way to much hysterical emo posts on here for such a small release.
Guys, it's a nice image and it's £90.
No-one's been tricked or duped into buying it. If people have a spare £90 to buy a piece of art then why not ?
Way to much hysterical emo posts on here for such a small release.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by marcobrm on Feb 12, 2014 18:32:25 GMT 1, Anyone having second thoughts. Girlfriend really liked the print. Especially the grey!
Anyone having second thoughts. Girlfriend really liked the print. Especially the grey!
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Pupster on Feb 12, 2014 18:35:08 GMT 1, I'm still after either!!! ... If anyone has a change of heart!!!..
I'm still after either!!! ... If anyone has a change of heart!!!..
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by dranfan14 on Feb 12, 2014 18:35:58 GMT 1, I agree its nuts some of the theorys coming out on here. I missed out on it sadly.... I got the email at 3.15pm saw the image and wanted it all before I read about any of these crazy theorys about banksy blah blah blah.... its a great image and £90 isn't a lot of money to pay for a picture. If I liked it and wanted one for £90 its not too hard to believe 100 other people did too.
I agree its nuts some of the theorys coming out on here. I missed out on it sadly.... I got the email at 3.15pm saw the image and wanted it all before I read about any of these crazy theorys about banksy blah blah blah.... its a great image and £90 isn't a lot of money to pay for a picture. If I liked it and wanted one for £90 its not too hard to believe 100 other people did too.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by BKBOI on Feb 12, 2014 18:39:12 GMT 1, what amazes me more is why Pez would allow his prints to be sold at the same time as this print. I know he is a nice guy but GP shouldn't take advantage of this.
what amazes me more is why Pez would allow his prints to be sold at the same time as this print. I know he is a nice guy but GP shouldn't take advantage of this.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by poofer on Feb 12, 2014 18:44:55 GMT 1, can't believe I missed another banksy dr0p
can't believe I missed another banksy dr0p
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Shoot Again on Feb 12, 2014 18:48:28 GMT 1, Feb 12th, the day the world officially went mad !! over 150 people have just spent over £100 pounds each on a picture of an Elephant, a Rat and some flowers in the hope that the "unknown" artist may be Banksy himself !!?? This has been hyped beyond all recognition, and I bet the person behind it cannot believe their luck, and how easy it is to part people from there hard earned money! This whole thing has left me wondering what`s next, it seems anyone can now make it as a sell out artist, create an image using other peoples ideas, get a load printed, don't give yourself a name, then suggest that you may be BANKSY, and hey presto, sell out prints week in week out #speechless However, it always work better when it's the 1st time (that's why THIS one is genius !) and all this wouldn't have been possible without this Forum... the guy actually didn't have to pull that many strings, he was probably surprised himself how his master plan worked so easily, just letting the hype beast that this Forum is do what it does best ;-)
Feb 12th, the day the world officially went mad !! over 150 people have just spent over £100 pounds each on a picture of an Elephant, a Rat and some flowers in the hope that the "unknown" artist may be Banksy himself !!?? This has been hyped beyond all recognition, and I bet the person behind it cannot believe their luck, and how easy it is to part people from there hard earned money! This whole thing has left me wondering what`s next, it seems anyone can now make it as a sell out artist, create an image using other peoples ideas, get a load printed, don't give yourself a name, then suggest that you may be BANKSY, and hey presto, sell out prints week in week out #speechless However, it always work better when it's the 1st time (that's why THIS one is genius !) and all this wouldn't have been possible without this Forum... the guy actually didn't have to pull that many strings, he was probably surprised himself how his master plan worked so easily, just letting the hype beast that this Forum is do what it does best ;-)
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Happy Shopper on Feb 12, 2014 18:53:41 GMT 1, Not in this case... the identity of the artist was made a big deal of by the gallery... so that's the discussion. Funny really, as how many street artists do we know the real identity of?... or care? I'm just curious. Where do you see that the gallery made a big deal about the artist? Because they used the word MYSTERIOUS? You might want to re read the thread from the beginning.... it's kind of the whole promotion for the release. We've not been talking for 9 pages about the flowers.
Not in this case... the identity of the artist was made a big deal of by the gallery... so that's the discussion. Funny really, as how many street artists do we know the real identity of?... or care? I'm just curious. Where do you see that the gallery made a big deal about the artist? Because they used the word MYSTERIOUS? You might want to re read the thread from the beginning.... it's kind of the whole promotion for the release. We've not been talking for 9 pages about the flowers.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by BKBOI on Feb 12, 2014 18:56:54 GMT 1, Refunds will be given at the discretion of Graffiti Prints, please contact us via email or telephone if you are in anyway unhappy with your purchase. In accordance with the European Distance Selling Directive, Graffitiprints.co.uk will supply you with a contract for each purchase you make on the site. If you are ordering within an EU country, you have the right to withdraw from the contract, within seven working days from receipt of the goods, and return the goods without having to give any reason. If you withdraw you will be reimbursed by the same method with which you paid, within thirty days. You will be charged for the postage costs of returning the goods, but we do not add an administration or repackaging charge. Under these conditions, returned goods must reach us in 100% re-saleable condition for customers to be eligible for a refund. - See more at: www.graffitiprints.com/returns/#sthash.CrDHqBnm.dpuf
you can always claim false advertising.
Refunds will be given at the discretion of Graffiti Prints, please contact us via email or telephone if you are in anyway unhappy with your purchase. In accordance with the European Distance Selling Directive, Graffitiprints.co.uk will supply you with a contract for each purchase you make on the site. If you are ordering within an EU country, you have the right to withdraw from the contract, within seven working days from receipt of the goods, and return the goods without having to give any reason. If you withdraw you will be reimbursed by the same method with which you paid, within thirty days. You will be charged for the postage costs of returning the goods, but we do not add an administration or repackaging charge. Under these conditions, returned goods must reach us in 100% re-saleable condition for customers to be eligible for a refund. - See more at: www.graffitiprints.com/returns/#sthash.CrDHqBnm.dpufyou can always claim false advertising.
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