.dappy
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by .dappy on Jul 10, 2015 0:24:22 GMT 1, Heh! Skippy ... I have some friends that would like to meet and say hello! sometime
http://instagram.com/p/47hkz_N5mZ
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by andyroo0312 on Jul 10, 2015 0:49:58 GMT 1, Haha. I just had a look at the above instagram. There are some amazing photos to be viewed.
Skippy wins against a alpaca when it comes to BBQ.
Haha. I just had a look at the above instagram. There are some amazing photos to be viewed.
Skippy wins against a alpaca when it comes to BBQ.
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met
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by met on Jul 10, 2015 15:20:55 GMT 1, While I have no problem whatsoever with the rest of your post, it isn't fair to make the comment highlighted in red. The text may reflect what you genuinely believe, which would be fine if it were qualified as such. As currently worded, however, it purports to state the feelings and opinions of most of the members on this forum, when most have neither expressed their views on the subject nor given you a mandate to do so on their behalf. You are correct - I should have added (IMO) to the end of that sentence.
No hard feelings.
My feathers often get ruffled when I see someone claiming to speak (or simply giving the impression, even if unintentional, that they are speaking) on behalf of the majority — especially when the subject matter is one that polarises, and where I sense a general consensus of opinion doesn't actually exist.
While I have no problem whatsoever with the rest of your post, it isn't fair to make the comment highlighted in red. The text may reflect what you genuinely believe, which would be fine if it were qualified as such. As currently worded, however, it purports to state the feelings and opinions of most of the members on this forum, when most have neither expressed their views on the subject nor given you a mandate to do so on their behalf. You are correct - I should have added (IMO) to the end of that sentence. No hard feelings. My feathers often get ruffled when I see someone claiming to speak (or simply giving the impression, even if unintentional, that they are speaking) on behalf of the majority — especially when the subject matter is one that polarises, and where I sense a general consensus of opinion doesn't actually exist. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by 11 on Jul 10, 2015 16:01:43 GMT 1, Very good. I see regular snipes at GP but are typically from a small group of (the same) people. In my view it is sometimes easy to assume that because the nay-sayers are more vocal that the consensus sits the other way. I merely wanted to offer some balance, perhaps i weighted the scales a little the other way too.
Very good. I see regular snipes at GP but are typically from a small group of (the same) people. In my view it is sometimes easy to assume that because the nay-sayers are more vocal that the consensus sits the other way. I merely wanted to offer some balance, perhaps i weighted the scales a little the other way too.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Happy Shopper on Jul 10, 2015 16:18:50 GMT 1, Think this print is as good as Morons or Golf Sale - all 3 are garbage
Those prints by Banksy were done around 10 years ago... I think you have to remember that they were quite a new idea at the time, and although not the most beautiful images they weren't meant to be!
They're jokes that people now take too seriously... which is the point of Morons. 
Outis just copied the same idea 8 or so years later... Which is pretty ridiculous
Think this print is as good as Morons or Golf Sale - all 3 are garbage Those prints by Banksy were done around 10 years ago... I think you have to remember that they were quite a new idea at the time, and although not the most beautiful images they weren't meant to be! They're jokes that people now take too seriously... which is the point of Morons. Outis just copied the same idea 8 or so years later... Which is pretty ridiculous |
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iamzero
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by iamzero on Jul 10, 2015 16:52:23 GMT 1, Judging by the quality of the Climber print I had from GP they're a great studio and the service was top notch. Outis images aren't to my tastes but don't feel the need to knock anyone for that. Someone obviously likes them to sell that amount so well played.
Judging by the quality of the Climber print I had from GP they're a great studio and the service was top notch. Outis images aren't to my tastes but don't feel the need to knock anyone for that. Someone obviously likes them to sell that amount so well played.
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met
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by met on Jul 10, 2015 18:43:50 GMT 1, Very good. I see regular snipes at GP but are typically from a small group of (the same) people. In my view it is sometimes easy to assume that because the nay-sayers are more vocal that the consensus sits the other way. I merely wanted to offer some balance, perhaps i weighted the scales a little the other way too.
Fair enough, though on a separate note, and while I'm not saying it was your intention, I wouldn't want terminology like "snipes" and "nay-sayers" (which is arguably a little emotive) to give the impression that any critique and grievance expressed by those you refer to is insincere and motivated by envy, malice or general pettiness.
In a long-winded (but hopefully not rambling) post in December, I offered my views on certain commercial ventures that have in recent years latched on to the graffiti and street art scenes. For reference, see point 3 of that post here.
I criticise some of these businesses, not because I've got nothing else to do, but because I believe they undermine and discredit, often by forced association, the heritage and cultures I have a real appreciation for. In this respect, I actually feel duty-bound to speak out.
You mention above a regularity in sniping. But any such regularity shouldn't be surprising, because the releases by Graffiti Prints have also been regular. It seems like you're focussed on snipes. Yet when I look at the broader picture, what I see is just regular and varied commentary — commentary which is to be expected with each and every Graffiti Prints release: regular positive comments, regular negative comments, and regular neutral / indifferent comments.
In relation to your reference to a small group of the same people, while I don't know how small a group it may be, the specific numbers of individuals and their identities (if they're the same or different) are for me less important than whether their viewpoints are reasonable and have some merit.
I think it would also be erroneous if any assumption were made that views expressed consistently by a group of individuals were their views alone. The same opinions may of course be shared by others, even significant numbers of forum members, who simply choose to remain silent.
Very good. I see regular snipes at GP but are typically from a small group of (the same) people. In my view it is sometimes easy to assume that because the nay-sayers are more vocal that the consensus sits the other way. I merely wanted to offer some balance, perhaps i weighted the scales a little the other way too. Fair enough, though on a separate note, and while I'm not saying it was your intention, I wouldn't want terminology like "snipes" and "nay-sayers" (which is arguably a little emotive) to give the impression that any critique and grievance expressed by those you refer to is insincere and motivated by envy, malice or general pettiness. In a long-winded (but hopefully not rambling) post in December, I offered my views on certain commercial ventures that have in recent years latched on to the graffiti and street art scenes. For reference, see point 3 of that post here. I criticise some of these businesses, not because I've got nothing else to do, but because I believe they undermine and discredit, often by forced association, the heritage and cultures I have a real appreciation for. In this respect, I actually feel duty-bound to speak out. You mention above a regularity in sniping. But any such regularity shouldn't be surprising, because the releases by Graffiti Prints have also been regular. It seems like you're focussed on snipes. Yet when I look at the broader picture, what I see is just regular and varied commentary — commentary which is to be expected with each and every Graffiti Prints release: regular positive comments, regular negative comments, and regular neutral / indifferent comments. In relation to your reference to a small group of the same people, while I don't know how small a group it may be, the specific numbers of individuals and their identities (if they're the same or different) are for me less important than whether their viewpoints are reasonable and have some merit. I think it would also be erroneous if any assumption were made that views expressed consistently by a group of individuals were their views alone. The same opinions may of course be shared by others, even significant numbers of forum members, who simply choose to remain silent. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by My Name is Frank on Jul 10, 2015 18:50:29 GMT 1, There is no comparison as this is a rip off of Morons. Morons was original in execution so it is 100x better than then the Outis ripoff for that simple reason. Banksy has made a career out of stating the obvious. It's like Politics 101 in a paint by numbers book - there I said it , flame away.
I'm interested, what in your opinion, the politics 101 is in golf sale? I do agree with you on morons, a straight up visual pun
There is no comparison as this is a rip off of Morons. Morons was original in execution so it is 100x better than then the Outis ripoff for that simple reason. Banksy has made a career out of stating the obvious. It's like Politics 101 in a paint by numbers book - there I said it , flame away. I'm interested, what in your opinion, the politics 101 is in golf sale? I do agree with you on morons, a straight up visual pun |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by sparky999 on Jul 10, 2015 20:48:02 GMT 1, Banksy has made a career out of stating the obvious. It's like Politics 101 in a paint by numbers book - there I said it , flame away. I'm interested, what in your opinion, the politics 101 is in golf sale? I do agree with you on morons, a straight up visual pun
Banksy has made a career out of stating the obvious. It's like Politics 101 in a paint by numbers book - there I said it , flame away. I'm interested, what in your opinion, the politics 101 is in golf sale? I do agree with you on morons, a straight up visual pun People in Western society are distracted/uninterested in what is really happening in the world because they care more about themselves and the consumer society we have created than about corrupt wars being fought in their name. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Cornish Crayon on Jul 11, 2015 1:09:32 GMT 1, Bloody hell, it's not just me then........
Bloody hell, it's not just me then........
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by My Name is Frank on Jul 11, 2015 7:44:26 GMT 1, I'm interested, what in your opinion, the politics 101 is in golf sale? I do agree with you on morons, a straight up visual pun People in Western society are distracted/uninterested in what is really happening in the world because they care more about themselves and the consumer society we have created than about corrupt wars being fought in their name.
Ever considered that the original protester was standing up against corruption by the state with a shopping bag in his hands in front of those tanks? And that in fact the very concept of his idea of freedom would be to trade state control for corporate control? That in fact no matter what you idealistically as an individual, ultimately someone somehow will quell that idealism in some form of control?
I'm interested, what in your opinion, the politics 101 is in golf sale? I do agree with you on morons, a straight up visual pun People in Western society are distracted/uninterested in what is really happening in the world because they care more about themselves and the consumer society we have created than about corrupt wars being fought in their name. Ever considered that the original protester was standing up against corruption by the state with a shopping bag in his hands in front of those tanks? And that in fact the very concept of his idea of freedom would be to trade state control for corporate control? That in fact no matter what you idealistically as an individual, ultimately someone somehow will quell that idealism in some form of control? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Cornish Crayon on Jul 11, 2015 8:33:25 GMT 1, Also very valid.......
Also very valid.......
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sparky999
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by sparky999 on Jul 11, 2015 9:04:53 GMT 1, People in Western society are distracted/uninterested in what is really happening in the world because they care more about themselves and the consumer society we have created than about corrupt wars being fought in their name. Ever considered that the original protester was standing up against corruption by the state with a shopping bag in his hands in front of those tanks? And that in fact the very concept of his idea of freedom would be to trade state control for corporate control? That in fact no matter what you idealistically as an individual, ultimately someone somehow will quell that idealism in some form of control?
Doesn't gel for me personally although I can see how you get there. Also doesn't gel well with British/American history, usually on the rare occasions Briton/Americans try to stand up to the state they riot, loot and burn stuff. America is also already controlled in large part by corporations so they already have the freedom you speak off.
People in Western society are distracted/uninterested in what is really happening in the world because they care more about themselves and the consumer society we have created than about corrupt wars being fought in their name. Ever considered that the original protester was standing up against corruption by the state with a shopping bag in his hands in front of those tanks? And that in fact the very concept of his idea of freedom would be to trade state control for corporate control? That in fact no matter what you idealistically as an individual, ultimately someone somehow will quell that idealism in some form of control? Doesn't gel for me personally although I can see how you get there. Also doesn't gel well with British/American history, usually on the rare occasions Briton/Americans try to stand up to the state they riot, loot and burn stuff. America is also already controlled in large part by corporations so they already have the freedom you speak off. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Jan 30, 2023 15:33:53 GMT 1, we have a release tomorrow by the mysterious artist OUTIS entitled LOVE HURTS. 3pm tomorrow 12th feb at 3pm graffitiprints.bigcartel.com/admin/products6 colour screen print on 300 gsm paper 50 x 50 cm. we loved this image and its subtle twist with it being valentines day and all that...  main edition of 100 in grey at £90 pink edition is a timed release over 48 hours however many sold determines the final edition size at £150.   
we have a release tomorrow by the mysterious artist OUTIS entitled LOVE HURTS. 3pm tomorrow 12th feb at 3pm graffitiprints.bigcartel.com/admin/products6 colour screen print on 300 gsm paper 50 x 50 cm. we loved this image and its subtle twist with it being valentines day and all that... main edition of 100 in grey at £90 pink edition is a timed release over 48 hours however many sold determines the final edition size at £150. did we ever get to the bottom of this fiasco?? this thread gave me my first ban. oh the good old days lol |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by trapnel1 on Jan 30, 2023 16:01:09 GMT 1, did we ever get to the bottom of this fiasco?? this thread gave me my first ban. oh the good old days lol
Those were the days...... is it true that the open edition ended up as only 51?
did we ever get to the bottom of this fiasco?? this thread gave me my first ban. oh the good old days lol Those were the days...... is it true that the open edition ended up as only 51? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by met on Jan 30, 2023 20:11:15 GMT 1, we have a release tomorrow by the mysterious artist OUTIS entitled LOVE HURTS. 3pm tomorrow 12th feb at 3pm graffitiprints.bigcartel.com/admin/products6 colour screen print on 300 gsm paper 50 x 50 cm. we loved this image and its subtle twist with it being valentines day and all that...  main edition of 100 in grey at £90 pink edition is a timed release over 48 hours however many sold determines the final edition size at £150.    did we ever get to the bottom of this fiasco?? this thread gave me my first ban. oh the good old days lol
It was pretty straightforward:
(a) an impostor artist; and
(b) a printer/publisher,
colluding together to take advantage of the wishful thinking, naivety or stupidity of many art collectors.
One of Banksy's rats was incorporated into the image, thereby knowingly encouraging the easily-duped to ask themselves, "Could this actually be Banksy using a different pseudonym, even if there's only a 0.01% chance?"
A cynical rip-off manoeuvre by the dishonest individuals responsible for that print release.
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These shenanigans are now sadly commonplace.
They are what we have also come to expect from other impostor artists like Ted Patrick, Mrs Banksy, Gonefellow, JBoy, and all the rest.
we have a release tomorrow by the mysterious artist OUTIS entitled LOVE HURTS. 3pm tomorrow 12th feb at 3pm graffitiprints.bigcartel.com/admin/products6 colour screen print on 300 gsm paper 50 x 50 cm. we loved this image and its subtle twist with it being valentines day and all that... main edition of 100 in grey at £90 pink edition is a timed release over 48 hours however many sold determines the final edition size at £150. did we ever get to the bottom of this fiasco?? this thread gave me my first ban. oh the good old days lol It was pretty straightforward: (a) an impostor artist; and (b) a printer/publisher, colluding together to take advantage of the wishful thinking, naivety or stupidity of many art collectors. One of Ban ksy's rats was incorporated into the image, thereby knowingly encouraging the easily-duped to ask themselves, "Could this actually be Banksy using a different pseudonym, even if there's only a 0.01% chance?"A cynical rip-off manoeuvre by the dishonest individuals responsible for that print release. __________ These shenanigans are now sadly commonplace. They are what we have also come to expect from other impostor artists like Ted Patrick, Mrs Banksy, Gonefellow, JBoy, and all the rest. |
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