JD
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by JD on Nov 1, 2013 23:47:14 GMT 1, This is starting to remind me of the Adam Neate glyclee snobbery, yawn Isnt it all a bit train spotter ? Worrying about the medium instead of the image Diamond dust makes it imo It's not snobbery. There's a big difference in quality. No CMYK process will ever give you the richness of PMS inks. If this print were priced much lower, like half, I wouldn't even bring it up.
Buy art you like the look of
Love the image
If you do, then pay the going rate, or don't
Put it in a frame
Put it on you're wall
Stop worrying
If it was half price would that change the image then ??
This is starting to remind me of the Adam Neate glyclee snobbery, yawn Isnt it all a bit train spotter ? Worrying about the medium instead of the image Diamond dust makes it imo It's not snobbery. There's a big difference in quality. No CMYK process will ever give you the richness of PMS inks. If this print were priced much lower, like half, I wouldn't even bring it up. Can I give you some advice Buy art you like the look of Love the image If you do, then pay the going rate, or don't Put it in a frame Put it on you're wall Stop worrying If it was half price would that change the image then ?? |
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randomname
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by randomname on Nov 2, 2013 0:04:39 GMT 1, It's not snobbery. There's a big difference in quality. No CMYK process will ever give you the richness of PMS inks. If this print were priced much lower, like half, I wouldn't even bring it up. Can I give you some advice Buy art you like the look of Love the image If you do, then pay the going rate, or don't Put it in a frame Put it on you're wall Stop worrying If it was half price would that change the image then ??
If the entire piece were screen printed, it would change the image quite a bit. As I've already said, ink jet prints lack the depth and richness of a screen print.
The only reason I could see for ink jetting a Ben Eine print would be to give people who can't afford a screen print a chance to own a piece of his work. With these priced comparably to his screen prints, this isn't doing that.
Also, anyone considering one should understand the difference and know what they're getting. Not everyone knows "giclee" is just a fancy (and perhaps deceptive) way of saying ink jet. That would be my advice. But I suppose buy it and put it in a frame without thinking works too.
It's not snobbery. There's a big difference in quality. No CMYK process will ever give you the richness of PMS inks. If this print were priced much lower, like half, I wouldn't even bring it up. Can I give you some advice Buy art you like the look of Love the image If you do, then pay the going rate, or don't Put it in a frame Put it on you're wall Stop worrying If it was half price would that change the image then ?? If the entire piece were screen printed, it would change the image quite a bit. As I've already said, ink jet prints lack the depth and richness of a screen print. The only reason I could see for ink jetting a Ben Eine print would be to give people who can't afford a screen print a chance to own a piece of his work. With these priced comparably to his screen prints, this isn't doing that. Also, anyone considering one should understand the difference and know what they're getting. Not everyone knows "giclee" is just a fancy (and perhaps deceptive) way of saying ink jet. That would be my advice. But I suppose buy it and put it in a frame without thinking works too. |
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morgan
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by morgan on Nov 2, 2013 4:12:25 GMT 1, I love this print and am getting one (because I love the image!) but I do agree 100% on the price on this that, it is in fact, asking too much especially when you look at comparables (tenderloin).
Hell the tenderloin COA is a piece of work alone!
/end ramble
I love this print and am getting one (because I love the image!) but I do agree 100% on the price on this that, it is in fact, asking too much especially when you look at comparables (tenderloin).
Hell the tenderloin COA is a piece of work alone!
/end ramble
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by Limited Prints on Nov 2, 2013 4:21:12 GMT 1, Can I give you some advice Buy art you like the look of Love the image If you do, then pay the going rate, or don't Put it in a frame Put it on you're wall Stop worrying If it was half price would that change the image then ?? If the entire piece were screen printed, it would change the image quite a bit. As I've already said, ink jet prints lack the depth and richness of a screen print. The only reason I could see for ink jetting a Ben Eine print would be to give people who can't afford a screen print a chance to own a piece of his work. With these priced comparably to his screen prints, this isn't doing that. Also, anyone considering one should understand the difference and know what they're getting. Not everyone knows "giclee" is just a fancy (and perhaps deceptive) way of saying ink jet. That would be my advice. But I suppose buy it and put it in a frame without thinking works too.
Can I give you some advice Buy art you like the look of Love the image If you do, then pay the going rate, or don't Put it in a frame Put it on you're wall Stop worrying If it was half price would that change the image then ?? If the entire piece were screen printed, it would change the image quite a bit. As I've already said, ink jet prints lack the depth and richness of a screen print. The only reason I could see for ink jetting a Ben Eine print would be to give people who can't afford a screen print a chance to own a piece of his work. With these priced comparably to his screen prints, this isn't doing that. Also, anyone considering one should understand the difference and know what they're getting. Not everyone knows "giclee" is just a fancy (and perhaps deceptive) way of saying ink jet. That would be my advice. But I suppose buy it and put it in a frame without thinking works too. I appreciate the info randomname. and thats what the forum is for. |
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iamzero
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by iamzero on Nov 2, 2013 8:45:35 GMT 1, I think it looks good, and im very very tempted, but im surprised its so closely priced to Tenderloin when that was such an exceptional display of screenprinting!
Agreed dude. I may have be tempted at half that cost especially so close to the by far superior font screenprint.
I think it looks good, and im very very tempted, but im surprised its so closely priced to Tenderloin when that was such an exceptional display of screenprinting! Agreed dude. I may have be tempted at half that cost especially so close to the by far superior font screenprint. |
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Art Fan 2011
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by Art Fan 2011 on Nov 2, 2013 8:52:40 GMT 1, I think it looks good, and im very very tempted, but im surprised its so closely priced to Tenderloin when that was such an exceptional display of screenprinting! Agreed dude. I may have be tempted at half that cost especially so close to the by far superior font screenprint.
I think it looks good, and im very very tempted, but im surprised its so closely priced to Tenderloin when that was such an exceptional display of screenprinting! Agreed dude. I may have be tempted at half that cost especially so close to the by far superior font screenprint. Even though it's not a screenpring and is does seem expensive, I think I'd regret not getting one in the long run, so looks like il be getting one, just hope it looks good in the flesh!! |
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iamzero
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by iamzero on Nov 2, 2013 9:36:39 GMT 1, The fact that it is a giclee doesn't bother me in the slightest but pricing and timing are a factor for me on this one which is annoying as a huge Eine fan. Although I must admit to wondering the same as others on here why an artist renowned for screen printing is producing giclee as a method... Hope this madness doesn't catch on with Penny too?
The fact that it is a giclee doesn't bother me in the slightest but pricing and timing are a factor for me on this one which is annoying as a huge Eine fan. Although I must admit to wondering the same as others on here why an artist renowned for screen printing is producing giclee as a method... Hope this madness doesn't catch on with Penny too?
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summoner
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by summoner on Nov 3, 2013 16:30:14 GMT 1, Love the image, but I can't help feel like this one was phoned in due to the technique that was used. For a print that is almost 2x the price of Adventure (which was a 12+ screenprint I believe), I would have expected this to be 100% screened for that price. Not to mention of all artists I would not have expected EINE to put out a giclee.
Not trying to be a downer, but I was looking forward to picking this up, and now I just feel let down. If the price was $200-250 I would consider it, but I just can't bring myself to entertain it at the current price.
Love the image, but I can't help feel like this one was phoned in due to the technique that was used. For a print that is almost 2x the price of Adventure (which was a 12+ screenprint I believe), I would have expected this to be 100% screened for that price. Not to mention of all artists I would not have expected EINE to put out a giclee.
Not trying to be a downer, but I was looking forward to picking this up, and now I just feel let down. If the price was $200-250 I would consider it, but I just can't bring myself to entertain it at the current price.
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by Elephants and Castles on Nov 3, 2013 16:50:52 GMT 1, Hello Everyone, just wanted to thank you all for the overwhelming response to the new Eine print, we had a huge response to the initial teaser and will be posting the launch date this week.
Thanks for all the PM's these past few days my fingers are still typing replies! Very excited that all the members are supporting the new print gallery and studio.
Hello Everyone, just wanted to thank you all for the overwhelming response to the new Eine print, we had a huge response to the initial teaser and will be posting the launch date this week.
Thanks for all the PM's these past few days my fingers are still typing replies! Very excited that all the members are supporting the new print gallery and studio.
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by warsaw project on Nov 3, 2013 16:54:36 GMT 1, Not to sure on this, liked it initially, would not be put off with Silkscreen over Giclee... Its more the mixture of fonts that's kinda doing my head in 
Good luck with the sales, sure it'll fly....
Not to sure on this, liked it initially, would not be put off with Silkscreen over Giclee... Its more the mixture of fonts that's kinda doing my head in Good luck with the sales, sure it'll fly.... |
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JD
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by JD on Nov 5, 2013 22:32:00 GMT 1, I just tried to add 100 to my basket and it wouldnt let me add more than 50.
I just tried to add 100 to my basket and it wouldnt let me add more than 50. |
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by Elephants and Castles on Nov 5, 2013 22:38:11 GMT 1, Hello Everyone after many years of thinking about creating a new print studio we decided to go ahead and launch one!
Please come check out our first print release by Internationally respected artist Ben Eine, numbers are extremely limited.
elephantsandcastles.com
Thanks for listening.
The Elephants
Hello Everyone after many years of thinking about creating a new print studio we decided to go ahead and launch one!
Please come check out our first print release by Internationally respected artist Ben Eine, numbers are extremely limited.
elephantsandcastles.com
Thanks for listening.
The Elephants
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artell
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by artell on Nov 5, 2013 23:08:22 GMT 1, Great print and definitely worth going for! Looking forward to future releases from this gallery
Great print and definitely worth going for! Looking forward to future releases from this gallery
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mikehaspey
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by mikehaspey on Nov 5, 2013 23:33:09 GMT 1, Really not sure on this, sat looking at the purchase button... I'm 50/50
Really not sure on this, sat looking at the purchase button... I'm 50/50
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Ruggs
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by Ruggs on Nov 5, 2013 23:35:43 GMT 1, Nice, I like it, but not a patch on Tenderloin.
Nice, I like it, but not a patch on Tenderloin.
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otomi
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by otomi on Nov 5, 2013 23:40:27 GMT 1, nice print - giclee done right is fine - wouldn't worry about it
more importantly now where the glitter thing is working can we go back to the Gorilla print please
nice print - giclee done right is fine - wouldn't worry about it more importantly now where the glitter thing is working can we go back to the Gorilla print please |
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frezza
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by frezza on Nov 6, 2013 0:12:39 GMT 1, Ooh fancied this but $120 shipping to the UK?
Ooh fancied this but $120 shipping to the UK?
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iamzero
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by iamzero on Nov 6, 2013 0:29:22 GMT 1, Can't see these selling out at this price plus shipping. Sadly I'm ooot.
Can't see these selling out at this price plus shipping. Sadly I'm ooot.
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cakeboy
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by cakeboy on Nov 6, 2013 0:49:10 GMT 1, Bet it glistens in the sunlight !
Bet it glistens in the sunlight !
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mikehaspey
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by mikehaspey on Nov 6, 2013 1:18:54 GMT 1, Ok so the shipping cost decided it for me! Easy decision
Ok so the shipping cost decided it for me! Easy decision
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by Elephants and Castles on Nov 6, 2013 4:56:12 GMT 1, frezza did you see the 2 options for shipping to the UK? the fast one was $120 the 7 day $85, just to confirm you did see that?
frezza did you see the 2 options for shipping to the UK? the fast one was $120 the 7 day $85, just to confirm you did see that?
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skybluemark
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by skybluemark on Nov 6, 2013 8:34:05 GMT 1, Anyone know if UK buyers will be stung for import duties etc?
Anyone know if UK buyers will be stung for import duties etc?
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by Hubble Bubble on Nov 6, 2013 8:59:09 GMT 1, ^^Same old story... they will be stung at 20% plus handling fees. Then they will be able to claim back the 20% VAT, or rather most of it - as the effective rate for import of this type of hand finished, ltd ed print is 5%.
Giclees could be a grey area in practice as they are produced by ink jet technique but the hand finishing and signing should qualify the print for reduced import duties.
^^Same old story... they will be stung at 20% plus handling fees. Then they will be able to claim back the 20% VAT, or rather most of it - as the effective rate for import of this type of hand finished, ltd ed print is 5%.
Giclees could be a grey area in practice as they are produced by ink jet technique but the hand finishing and signing should qualify the print for reduced import duties.
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JD
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by JD on Nov 6, 2013 9:28:46 GMT 1, frezza did you see the 2 options for shipping to the UK? the fast one was $120 the 7 day $85, just to confirm you did see that?
frezza did you see the 2 options for shipping to the UK? the fast one was $120 the 7 day $85, just to confirm you did see that? far too much yes. Its becuase they cant roll them into a tube apparently |
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Hubble Bubble
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by Hubble Bubble on Nov 6, 2013 9:35:02 GMT 1, I would have thought that rolling them would mean 'au revoir, glitter'...
I would have thought that rolling them would mean 'au revoir, glitter'...
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frezza
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by frezza on Nov 6, 2013 10:14:37 GMT 1, frezza did you see the 2 options for shipping to the UK? the fast one was $120 the 7 day $85, just to confirm you did see that? far too much yes. Its becuase they cant roll them into a tube apparently
Think I was just a bit surprised - can see the reasoning though (and more painful when you know customs will stick the 5% on and then add handling etc)
ps - the $85 option doesn't show up? Maybe it does when you click through with further info? I just clicked UK and it added $120 to the total
frezza did you see the 2 options for shipping to the UK? the fast one was $120 the 7 day $85, just to confirm you did see that? far too much yes. Its becuase they cant roll them into a tube apparently Think I was just a bit surprised - can see the reasoning though (and more painful when you know customs will stick the 5% on and then add handling etc) ps - the $85 option doesn't show up? Maybe it does when you click through with further info? I just clicked UK and it added $120 to the total |
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 20:58:30 GMT 1, Maybe if there was a 'bulk' interest from the UK then they would ship them together (or take them) to a centrally located gallery or somewhere that could be trusted and then sell them from there?
I agree that if you're uk based and have to factor in postage, import plus risk of damage in transit etc then.....
Maybe if there was a 'bulk' interest from the UK then they would ship them together (or take them) to a centrally located gallery or somewhere that could be trusted and then sell them from there?
I agree that if you're uk based and have to factor in postage, import plus risk of damage in transit etc then.....
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gavatron
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by gavatron on Nov 7, 2013 0:01:44 GMT 1, have a chat to graffiti prints perhaps
have a chat to graffiti prints perhaps
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re. Ben Eine - See No Evil Print w.black glitter coming soon, by linguiny on Nov 16, 2013 12:12:19 GMT 1, Has anyone who bought this had an update on when this will be dispatched?
Has anyone who bought this had an update on when this will be dispatched?
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