Mark Rothko 🇱🇻 Abstract Painting • Art For Sale

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2 years, blimey that seems very harsh!

Brian Eno urinated in a reproduction of Duchamp's Fountain in the Museum of Modern Art in NYC back in 1995 without any repercussions.

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there will be plenty of 'yellowism' when he visits the prison showers

[Dr Plip]

Dec 13, 2012 14:47:57 GMT 1 @vivalarepublique said:

2 years, blimey that seems very harsh!

Brian Eno urinated in a reproduction of Duchamp's Fountain in the Museum of Modern Art in NYC back in 1995 without any repercussions.

Suck a duck! TWO YEARS!!!

You get less for mugging an oldie.

Nice clear message. Don't mess around with expensive artwork.

[Coach]

Dec 13, 2012 14:47:57 GMT 1 @vivalarepublique said:

2 years, blimey that seems very harsh!

Brian Eno urinated in a reproduction of Duchamp's Fountain in the Museum of Modern Art in NYC back in 1995 without any repercussions.

But what damage did that cause?
I understand that the damage to the Rothko is much worse than at first thought. The inks have sunk into the paint, which will have to be removed. The restorers then have the difficulty that Rothko mixed his own paints with unorthodox materials, that they will have to try to replicate. I hear that the restoration will take a very long time, and be very costly.
It also concerns me that with stunts like this, galleries may be tempted to hide masterworks behind glass (eg the mona Lisa) which would be a great shame.

[klyde]

Dec 13, 2012 15:53:54 GMT 1 Coach said:

Dec 13, 2012 14:47:57 GMT 1 @vivalarepublique said:

2 years, blimey that seems very harsh!

Brian Eno urinated in a reproduction of Duchamp's Fountain in the Museum of Modern Art in NYC back in 1995 without any repercussions.

But what damage did that cause?
I understand that the damage to the Rothko is much worse than at first thought. The inks have sunk into the paint, which will have to be removed. The restorers then have the difficulty that Rothko mixed his own paints with unorthodox materials, that they will have to try to replicate. I hear that the restoration will take a very long time, and be very costly.
It also concerns me that with stunts like this, galleries may be tempted to hide masterworks behind glass (eg the mona Lisa) which would be a great shame.

Well said.

This deluded clown will be out in a year tops though.

Self obsessed selfish acts like this have the potential to destroy the experience of galleries for all.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when he is explaining Yellowism to his cellmate.

[lee3]

>>>Self obsessed selfish acts like this have the potential to destroy the experience of galleries for all. <<

Tony Shafrazi built an art empire after vandalizing Guernica so this could well be the guy to speak with if one is an aspiring artist. I believe these acts will remain rare and would be surprised to see many museums salute the plexiglass defense.

[Coach]

I found out about the Rothko Chapel today - I was previously unaware of it's existence, and so thought I would share.
I rather like the fact that it is for anyone, no matter what faith.

From the website:

"The Rothko Chapel, founded by Houston philanthropists John and Dominique de Menil, was dedicated in 1971 as an intimate sanctuary available to people of every belief......

Action takes the form of supporting human rights, and thus the Chapel has become a rallying place for all people concerned with peace, freedom, and social justice throughout the world.......

Mark Rothko, one of the most influential American artists of the mid twentieth century, was commissioned by the de Menils in 1964 and given the opportunity to shape and control a total environment to encompass his work, resulting in a group of fourteen paintings created specially for the meditative space....."

Lots more here

www.rothkochapel.org/index.php







Certainly not urban, but very cool imo.

[kobron]

I rather like the fact that it is for anyone, no matter what faith.
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On February 25, 1970, Oliver Steindecker, Rothko's assistant, found the artist in his kitchen, lying dead on the floor in front of the sink, covered in blood. He had sliced his arms with a razor found lying at his side. The autopsy revealed that he had also overdosed on anti-depressants
-and his faith is razor ...

[aj2010]

I hate Rothko so that place would just annoy me. Stupid I know.

[Coach]

May 6, 2013 23:14:37 GMT 1 aj2010 said:

I hate Rothko so that place would just annoy me. Stupid I know.

Not stupid. It's a question of taste. If you had said his work is crap, then that's a different matter. 
Personally, I find his work incredibly beautiful. 
Even these pieces, which are a little melancholic, are beautiful. I have not seen them in person, but understand that they are colourful in the sunlight, containing plums, dark reds, magentas etc. 
His more colourful pieces are just so vibrant. 
Byt each to his own. 

[Ken Hashimoto]

I absolutely abhor Texas for 100% personal reasons (except Austin, of course) however if I'm ever in Houston (their art fair is supposed to be top notch) I'd definitely swing by!

[hanky]

I have been there on a couple of occasions - there are seats around the outside and cushions on the floor to enjoy the experience and yes it is predominantly a plum colour, but also includes browns and black! In the same area is the Cy Twombly gallery and the Menil Collection which is also worth taking time out to see if you are in Houston. All purchased with oil money by the Schlumberger family and its heirs.

[sashaz]

I love Rothko and they draw me in like a black hole.

[Coach]

May 7, 2013 16:38:17 GMT 1 sashaz said:

I love Rothko and they draw me in like a black hole.

That just about sums up my feelings too. Well put sir. 

[aj2010]

I should make myself clearer. I hate Rothko's work. Every time I see his work I feel empty and cheated. I find his work lifeless and cold and for some reason I feel annoyed by them.

[kobron]

May 7, 2013 19:56:49 GMT 1 aj2010 said:

I should make myself clearer. I hate Rothko's work. Every time I see his work I feel empty and cheated. I find his work lifeless and cold and for some reason I feel annoyed by them.

good thinking aj2010...
because it really is: I hate God, religion, etc.  

[Coach]

May 7, 2013 21:08:14 GMT 1 kobron said:

May 7, 2013 19:56:49 GMT 1 aj2010 said:

I should make myself clearer. I hate Rothko's work. Every time I see his work I feel empty and cheated. I find his work lifeless and cold and for some reason I feel annoyed by them.

good thinking aj2010...
because it really is: I hate God, religion, etc.  

I am an aethiest. I dislike much of what has been done in the name of religion.
But as an art lover it is difficult to overlook the influence of the church (I am thinking Christian, but applicable to other faiths), both good and bad. For centuries the church was the main patron of artists, which is reflected in their works. One only has to look at the work of Caravaggio, Michelangelo, etc.
Religion holds no grip on me, but I do adore religious art. I would certainly not dismiss art because it has a religious influence or inspiration. 

[kobron]

man is good or bad ... religion there is nothing to do with it ...
you're lucky and you know everything like Mr.. Rothko?
you have a razor!
Go with it!
This is simply false ...
You can also write: Jesus is a liar ...
too few people will delight and Saatchi probably buy ... 
This is the only art-true is this? 

[Hairbland]

May 7, 2013 21:08:14 GMT 1 kobron said:

May 7, 2013 19:56:49 GMT 1 aj2010 said:

I should make myself clearer. I hate Rothko's work. Every time I see his work I feel empty and cheated. I find his work lifeless and cold and for some reason I feel annoyed by them.

good thinking aj2010...
because it really is: I hate God, religion, etc.  

I think the proper phrase if discussing art in an intelligent manner - and the "street artists" I've met that many on these boards love are intelligent - would be that you dislike Rothko's work.

"Hate" is a bit juvenile, and does a disservice to your following thoughts which while personal evoke a bit of critical thinking, crucial to understanding art.

As to the "I hate God, religion, etc" Rothko was about so much more than that, and follows in a long line of great painters influenced by the church, for better or worse.

[aj2010]

But isn't true that the church restrained some of the great artists mentioned, and controlled their subject matter. If these artists were given free reign to do what they really wanted to do then the progression of art would have been leaps and bounds above what it was. We can only try and guess what magnificent pieces would have been created. If you have ever been the Lourve then you know that you can only see so much of Jesus suffering.

[Coach]

Sure. But the artists needed patrons to be able to paint. And the great artists needed wealthy patrons. And in those days that was the church or the aristocracy. Hence the subject matter of the bulk of the work. 
Thats all history now. My point is that I don't have to be religious to love religious paintings. 

[Happy Shopper]

Exactly. There wouldn't have been painters like Da Vinci, etc is it wasn't for the church and rich patrons.

Another example of religious art done well, that I saw recently, is Caravaggio's Cena in Emmaus... After walking around the museum for an hour looking at golden crosses, and all the usual iconography, then you come to this, and it's mind blowing... apparently pissed the church off too!

(If you're in Milan, get to the Pinacoteca di Brera)

[dime683]

May 6, 2013 22:26:06 GMT 1 Coach said:

I found out about the Rothko Chapel today - I was previously unaware of it's existence, and so thought I would share.
I rather like the fact that it is for anyone, no matter what faith.

From the website:

"The Rothko Chapel, founded by Houston philanthropists John and Dominique de Menil, was dedicated in 1971 as an intimate sanctuary available to people of every belief......

Action takes the form of supporting human rights, and thus the Chapel has become a rallying place for all people concerned with peace, freedom, and social justice throughout the world.......

Mark Rothko, one of the most influential American artists of the mid twentieth century, was commissioned by the de Menils in 1964 and given the opportunity to shape and control a total environment to encompass his work, resulting in a group of fourteen paintings created specially for the meditative space....."

Lots more here

www.rothkochapel.org/index.php







Certainly not urban, but very cool imo.

thanks for posting this coach. i am in houston for work and stopped by this morning. it was very interesting to say the least. 

[angel41]

Always wanted to visit the chapel as the paintings are so dark you can't appreciate the depth from photographs. I personally prefer his brighter works but would love to stand in front of these and get lost in the vastness.

[Shoeless]

Have been researching my upcoming trip to London and looking at a stop by the Tate when I came across this....

www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/art-news/9592962/Rothko-painting-vandalised-in-Tate-Modern.html

www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2012/oct/08/defaced-tate-modern-rothko

[johnnyh]

Shoeless. There was a thread or two about the time of these news articles on here re his and the daft Yellowism thing.
enjoy your trip just gonna be heading that way myself

[Shoeless]

Whoops....now that you mention it, I see Im almost a year late!


Since this is old news, Im open to suggestions for my trip 

[Deleted]

Oct 17, 2013 15:27:37 GMT 1 @delloy said:

Borf - Rothko's Modern Life (Seven)

Will be released exclusively at the Multiplied print fair by The Outsiders and the rest to be released later in the year online.

Love this series cant wait to get it to go with the other one

Oooo, nice! Was hoping for #8...

Any more info? Which medium? Edition? Price?

Looking forward to seeing these. Thanks for posting, innit.

[Deleted]

Oct 17, 2013 16:02:04 GMT 1 @delloy said:

Thats all the info I have at present but I expect they will be the same as the last release. Giclee with silkscreen gloss 100 x 80cm and priced the same at £175 but this is just my guess

I have that one here flattening, waiting to be framed

Does anyone here have print 17/75 from the "Rothko's Modern Life (Nine)" edition? It's my go to number for prints and would make me VERY happy, it'd also calm down *some* of my OCD issues. I might be persuaded to make it worth your while if you'd like to swap for mine (18/75 - annoyingly). Here's hoping!!

And, I reckon it's gonna be more expensive. This is Laz we're talking about here...

[zappa]

I want one of these, a lot.

One part of me thinks it's a bit gimmicky (the Rothko thing), but I like the gimmick, so hey ho.

I'd seen them about before - is it a popular series? Possibly showing my ignorance, but I don't really know Borf.