[rabbitlegs]

Im currently trying my hand at basic framing with varying success.
My question is how the hell do you display deckled edges and manage to get the print looking like its floating,but without sticking it to anything?
I have looked at several morons and an elbow-toe recently and just cannot suss out how its done.
I dont want to hide my fancy edges with mountboard.


Perhaps its best left for the professionals but would welcome some advice.

[saajid22]

archival tape. when i get to the framers next i'll ask which brand they use.

[Mister Frame Man]

Japanese hinging! Which is...Small hinges made out of conservation tissue paper which are lightly gummed. You then have to moisten, let them almost go off, then stick to the reverse of your artwork in certain places.
The hinges are then fed through slits of your backing card and stuck down in place, holding your artwork in place - Floating!
This method is 100% reversible, all you have to do is moisten the hinges very slightly with a special liquid and the gum dissolves leaving your print untouched.
Problems occur when too much moisture is applied and you end up with a nasty bump coming through the front of your print.

Be careful - Not an easy process!

[numusic]

misterframeman said:

Japanese hinging! Which is...Small hinges made out of conservation tissue paper which are lightly gummed. You then have to moisten, let them almost go off, then stick to the reverse of your artwork in certain places.
The hinges are then fed through slits of your backing card and stuck down in place, holding your artwork in place - Floating!
This method is 100% reversible, all you have to do is moisten the hinges very slightly with a special liquid and the gum dissolves leaving your print untouched.
Problems occur when too much moisture is applied and you end up with a nasty bump coming through the front of your print.

Be careful - Not an easy process!

I just took a print in for float mounting.. they said they just use two spots of liquid gum on the back at the top, nothing on the bottom unless absolutely necessary.. but maybe a couple of spots.. they assured me that it was all reversible.. which is the best method in your opinion.

[Strange Al]

misterframeman said:

Problems occur when too much moisture is applied and you end up with a nasty bump coming through the front of your print.

Be careful - Not an easy process!

Wise words misterframeman.

I've tried this technique and ended up with this very problem. I'm glad to say that I was sensible enough not to try it on any of my expensive prints. Though since my failures, I've decided to leave float mounting to the professionals.

[rabbitlegs]

Thanks for the help guys, sounds a bit tricky for the moment. It does look the business though.

[CR]

hey,

assuming all the new prints will have the deckled edge border i was wandering how people think would be best to mount them.

i've found a picture of one in a frame that talks about mounting the print to plywood!! The effect looks amazing but not sure how it would affect the print!

[gordy]

Nite253 - cool aviator sorry to interupt your thread but could anyone let me know how to download an aviator? cheers g

[CR]

thanks, i made it myself from the black and white picture on banksys website.

you ave to upload the picture to a website like flickr, go to your settings and put in the url for it

[gordy]

Thanks for that I now feel fully dressed ;D ;D Respect G

[CR]

why g?

[gordy]

Thanks from g = gordy ;D

[CR]

yea, i worked that out i meant why depressed!!

I didnt get one of the prints either - im just fed up of always pressing refresh so i am planning how to frame one, if i ever get one!!!

[CR]

oops me bad - dressed!!!!!

[gordy]

Off 2 watch arena, cheers for help ;D ;D

[KaL976]

nite253 said:

hey,

assuming all the new prints will have the deckled edge border i was wandering how people think would be best to mount them.

i've found a picture of one in a frame that talks about mounting the print to plywood!! The effect looks amazing but not sure how it would affect the print!

Sounds like you want to 'float mount' it/them & if it's done properly it harms the print not at all.
Under no circumstances do you want it glued/fixed to plywood or whatever backboard you end up using.

[corblimeylimey]

I've just come back from a framers, I asked about float mount framing Applause (it's huge) probably will cost around £250!!
but I think it'll be worth it, they had a really nice Peter Blake fag packet screen print in a white frame floating mount, impressed me.

[johnerotten]

i know this was covered somewhere before, but i've had trouble locating the thread.

morons is my first print and i know nothing of how to have it framed.

any advice would be appreciated!

cheers and have a great weekend!

[Ågentßacardi]

johnerotten said:

i know this was covered somewhere before, but i've had trouble locating the thread.

morons is my first print and i know nothing of how to have it framed.

any advice would be appreciated!

cheers and have a great weekend!

Like you already mentioned, having it floated is the best option IMO. Because of the deckled edges, which I think would be a waste to cover up. Be sure to use spacers to stop the print from touching the glass. Though... I doubt any framer will be stupid enough to float a piece without any spacers

[johnerotten]

sweet! thanks!

[themightyreds]

I agree that float mounting is the way to go with the morons piece (show off those edges!) my one will be getting re-framed this way once funds permit.
But why is it such a bad way to go when framing to have the print touching the glass?
I've asked PoW, framers and other screen printers about this and none yet have said to me that it is harmful...

[Ågentßacardi]

themightyreds said:

I agree that float mounting is the way to go with the morons piece (show off those edges!) my one will be getting re-framed this way once funds permit.
But why is it such a bad way to go when framing to have the print touching the glass?
I've asked PoW, framers and other screen printers about this and none yet have said to me that it is harmful...

If it's perspex (or plexiglas), it's fine 'cos that material is inert. If it's regular glass though, the inks on the print may react with the glass and stick... which would be bad for the print. At least... this is what my framer told me

[Curley]

themightyreds said:

I agree that float mounting is the way to go with the morons piece (show off those edges!) my one will be getting re-framed this way once funds permit.
But why is it such a bad way to go when framing to have the print touching the glass?
I've asked PoW, framers and other screen printers about this and none yet have said to me that it is harmful...

Hi there

There is a possibility that prints can get stuck to the glass, especially if there is any damp about.
This is discussed in the framing section in more detail. have a look through as you will pick up lots more info.

If the print is signed or valuable its worth protecting properly and using acid free mounts etc will help.

[ct]

Hi

Im about to get my first print framed at my local framers, they seem to know what they are talking about except one thing that worries me.

Im wanting to get my print floating mounted and they have mentioned that to keep the print off the glass it would have to be secured to the backing somehow with something they say wont damage the print.

Does this sound normal? does such a thing exist which wont damage the print in the long term but secure it?


Thanks for any help

[dvda]

pardon my ignorance, as i am a n00b to all of this art/framing business...

will float mounting a print damage the artwork?

my framer was talking about using double sided tape, so i balked on float mounting, as it seemed like something which could potentially damage my print...

is she just a hack or is using tape standard procedure for float mounting?

on a side note, if anyone knows a good framer in NYC, feel free to PM me with their info!


cheers.
d

[curiousgeorge]

If done correctly float mounting will not damage the art, for a perfect result i would use rice paper and starch paste.

Some framers will use double sided tape, while a few will use the above method. Shop around until you find a framer that pushes all your buttons, in terms of what you want to hear

[Francis]

I've never framed a canvas before. I would like to get one of my canvases floated. I want it to be done in the most archival way possible without damage to the canvas. What should I know before I bring it to my framer? Do I specifically mention that he does not use certain items on it? What do I ask him to use?

Cheers

[Heavyconsumer]

You could try posting the question here and sending a PM to both Dale and Gary to make them aware. banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=misterframeman&action=display&thread=16344&page=1

You may even find an answer by looking through the framing sections in the drop down meu at the bottom of this page (where it says "Forum Jump". Lots of interesting and helpful info.

[Deleted]

i had both of these done at niche frames in bristol. they just used small screws.

[Francis]

Looks good slammer...did the screws go into the canvas as well or only the bracing?