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Post by fragile on May 15, 2012 8:52:01 GMT 1
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Post by ruggs on May 15, 2012 9:00:19 GMT 1
 Another one! Image would lend itself nicely in print format I reckon. Better than the gorilla anyway. |
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Post by eschiff on May 15, 2012 9:22:17 GMT 1
fragile thanks for the pics! just wondering why you chose to give away the location of this one? i know for the lyme regis piece it took a few months till people figured it out...
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Post by deputydawg on May 15, 2012 9:28:29 GMT 1
'The store has been at the centre of controversy after it was revealed two years ago that a seven-year-old boy worked more 100 hours a week in an Indian sweatshop to produce some of its goods.'
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 9:29:52 GMT 1
Because its going to be wealked past by loads of people daily,Unlike the other one?
I like this piece i think it is cool , and raises good points, but should the child been Oriental looking, Most of B's figures (children) all look like black kids anyone else think this? Not that this is a bad thing or anything of the such , so just incase anyone thinks my comments are racist or anything like that , they are not and im purely wondering?
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 9:36:46 GMT 1
Gwit you lost me on that one. Kids with guns for blur sleeve, looks white to me, Banksy kids pledging their allegiance to Tesco, yup they look white to. Anyway I`m not having a debate on the ethnicity of people in drawings. Having friends myself in Zimbabwe to Fiji. Were all equal in my book.
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Post by eschiff on May 15, 2012 9:38:04 GMT 1
sure, people walk by it, but until it's 'discovered' as a banksy the average person wouldn't look twice i'd imagine...not a big deal, just imagine the flags would've stayed up longer that way!
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 9:40:31 GMT 1
Gwit you lost me on that one. Kids with guns for blur sleeve, looks white to me, Banksy kids pledging their allegiance to Tesco, yup they look white to. Anyway I`m not having a debate on the ethnicity of people in drawings. Having friends myself in Zimbabwe to Fiji. Were all equal in my book. Thats the point i was trying to say, i have no issues as you have suggested in your above post with peaoples skin colour i was just asking the question. WHy after my post is was it not clear to you that it was not a racial comment? Main thing in my post was stating that it matters nothing to me. Jeeez But yeah i agree its a good mix |
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 9:53:05 GMT 1
Sorry gwhit I just could not see any black kids in his work. Anyway nice to see mr b on the streets again.
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Post by rsyok on May 15, 2012 10:05:39 GMT 1
Any reason Fragile's photos have gone from flickr ? Has Banksy swopped you a Lady di mug for your shots already Fragile ? Its a great piece next stop Primark. |
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Post by sean on May 15, 2012 10:19:54 GMT 1
It's a bit dull really. And the lack of posts on here so far imply a growing sense of boredom. 4 out of 10. Must try harder. Sometimes your posts are quite astute, this is just a little bitter. Lack of posts? Since when has this forum been a judge of anything via post count? I'm sorry you've mixed this place up with a forum dedicated to the discussion of street art. Also this hasn't been posted in the main discussion area. Also historically check which gets more posts a street piece or a print. Onto the image, looks like its been hurried which isn't a bad thing, it could actually mean its illegal. And whilst biting at the society and value set we live in,remains likeable enough not threaten. Not wholly successful, but still a great way to underline he's not gone. Nice one. Oh and have been asked the following - fragile could you please credit where you get this info from ie. the twitter feed etc. Ta. To me this is Banksy just going through the motions. An obvious sentiment at an easy target. And while the message is worth saying, Banksy's past work puts this to shame. There is really nothing in this that other artists couldn't do. I think Banksy's anonymity is now working against him. Look at what other artists are producing in terms of creativity and scale. The admittance into the main stream of 'street art' has allowed this to happen, but for Banksy it is still a quick hit and run stencil. He is capable of much better work than this, and on a much bigger scale. I hope we'll see some soon. Unfortunately too many people immediately jump up and down at the sight of a new 'Banksy' and start wetting themselves at how brilliant it is and how it might lead to a print. From what I first saw early on in Banksy's work, I didn't really expect we'd be standing still ten years on, particularly in the street work. Is that ok as part of the discussion on street art? |
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 10:24:12 GMT 1
Rsyok if I had the chance to be lucky enough to stumble on a banksy I would not give a hoot about a mug just the knowing that I got their first. Lucky fragile I guess.
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Post by sean on May 15, 2012 10:25:40 GMT 1
It's a bit dull really. And the lack of posts on here so far imply a growing sense of boredom. 4 out of 10. Must try harder.  clueless burke alert.. and Freeview, I'm still waiting as to why I'm a 'clueless burke'. Can you please have the courtesy to explain why my initial post warranted your reply. I don't take offence, just looking forward to hearing it. |
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Post by fragile on May 15, 2012 10:30:09 GMT 1
Rsyok if I had the chance to be lucky enough to stumble on a banksy I would not give a hoot about a mug just the knowing that I got their first. Lucky fragile I guess. I certainly wasn't the first to find it. I never am. First to post on here maybe, but that's about it. Now where's that thread on the Taunton rat.... |
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 10:31:50 GMT 1
Sean, what the cliff. When you look at kissing coppers in Brighton you get the message and on this piece the message rings home as well. What do you want Banksy to do get a great big pink elephant to parade down whitehall. I see no other street artists branching out this way into taking a swipe at consumerism. Ok you had t.wats corporate gangsters but still I personally love this.
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 10:33:37 GMT 1
Lol fragile that is MR scanlon for ya.  |
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Post by plip on May 15, 2012 10:40:02 GMT 1
Another one! Image would lend itself nicely in print format I reckon. Better than the gorilla anyway. Yeah, but would you feel comfortable paying hundreds of pound for a piece of paper with that subject matter? |
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Post by confused2 on May 15, 2012 10:53:18 GMT 1
Image would lend itself nicely in print format I reckon. Better than the gorilla anyway. Yeah, but would you feel comfortable paying hundreds of pound for a piece of paper with that subject matter? I'd happily pay a few hundred quid for a Banksy, but the chances of me scooping one from source are nigh on nil, so I'd end up paying in the thousands, not hundreds. It's a simple, but strong image that would work well as a print. Compared to some of the unorginal tat that's being peddled about at the moment crazy sums of money, a few hundred for this image by the UK's premier Urban Artist (that's my opinion) would be a steal. |
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 10:55:55 GMT 1
THIS IS NOT A PRINT , THIS IS STREET ART
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 10:57:20 GMT 1
Agreed gwhit, birthdays aside on this one. It is a great piece of street art
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Post by sean on May 15, 2012 11:05:56 GMT 1
What do you want Banksy to do get a great big pink elephant to parade down whitehall. I see no other street artists branching out this way into taking a swipe at consumerism. And with that the system comes tumbling down. The inability of the banks to control their greed has done more to curb consumerism than Banksy ever will. It's all a bit tired isn't it? I don't expect all his work to be ground breaking, but when compared with his work in the past this just doesn't compere. Look at the size of the wall - why are there not lots of children working at machines? Work on a bigger scale than a single stencil hurriedly sprayed on a wall, more concerned about protecting anonymity. I expect something more because he has set such a high standard. And if the people he's now working with ( if any ) aren't up to the job then get people in that are. |
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Post by rsyok on May 15, 2012 11:22:45 GMT 1
Rsyok if I had the chance to be lucky enough to stumble on a banksy I would not give a hoot about a mug just the knowing that I got their first. Lucky fragile I guess. I certainly wasn't the first to find it. I never am. First to post on here maybe, but that's about it. Now where's that thread on the Taunton rat.... Yeah Romany WG used to leave you for dust ! You should have said your flickr account was hacked in Taunton  Can freerange please illustrate the standard New Banksy thread please.. 1. Ooh new Banksy love it 2. Its a bit samey must try harder 3. That would make a great print |
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Post by plip on May 15, 2012 11:50:49 GMT 1
I agree, it would be a steal at hundreds. But at thousands, well, then you get that awkward moment when you realise that you've spent thousands on an image of a child working in (we assume) a sweat shop enviroment, where he works in harsh conditions for pennies a week.
I would be highly amused if Banksy released this as a print. Mind you, he did do the Morons one.
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 12:08:57 GMT 1
Great reading these posts. The notion of just any artist could do it always raises the question of which artist actually went out and did it and tried to bring a largely ignored elephant to the forefront.
If the artist fell short in anyway on this run, is by not adding the flags of many other nations to the physical display as well as some product brand images; as well as maybe a few pics of our faces as the consumers - to represent the full spectrum of support for child labour exploitation. It is no easy topic, but great to see a reknowned street artist still has it on mind - makes a difference.
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Post by naughtyshorty on May 15, 2012 12:15:59 GMT 1
hey gwhit, i know where you are coming from.. i actual thought that the kid in this latest piece was from an Indian sweat shop - and he has done quite a few black kids in his previous work. For me, the ability to accurately depict the race of a kid in a stencil is pretty amazing, and just testament to his ability as an artist. Everytime i notice the race in his piece i have a more in depth look and see what it is in the picture that gives me that impression. anyway awesome awesome image - favourite street image since crayoloa house (black girl) Gwit you lost me on that one. Kids with guns for blur sleeve, looks white to me, Banksy kids pledging their allegiance to Tesco, yup they look white to. Anyway I`m not having a debate on the ethnicity of people in drawings. Having friends myself in Zimbabwe to Fiji. Were all equal in my book. Thats the point i was trying to say, i have no issues as you have suggested in your above post with peaoples skin colour i was just asking the question. WHy after my post is was it not clear to you that it was not a racial comment? Main thing in my post was stating that it matters nothing to me. Jeeez But yeah i agree its a good mix |
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 12:18:12 GMT 1
plip can I remind you of exhibit a Graffiti artist Banksy is to donate £90,000 from a print sale to a controversial Russian art group called the Voina (War) collective, two of whose members are in prison awaiting trial. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11982984 Just because even if it was released as a print the funds would not go to good use. |
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Post by deputydawg on May 15, 2012 12:23:02 GMT 1
Sometimes your posts are quite astute, this is just a little bitter. Lack of posts? Since when has this forum been a judge of anything via post count? I'm sorry you've mixed this place up with a forum dedicated to the discussion of street art. Also this hasn't been posted in the main discussion area. Also historically check which gets more posts a street piece or a print. Onto the image, looks like its been hurried which isn't a bad thing, it could actually mean its illegal. And whilst biting at the society and value set we live in,remains likeable enough not threaten. Not wholly successful, but still a great way to underline he's not gone. Nice one. Oh and have been asked the following - fragile could you please credit where you get this info from ie. the twitter feed etc. Ta. To me this is Banksy just going through the motions. An obvious sentiment at an easy target. And while the message is worth saying, Banksy's past work puts this to shame. There is really nothing in this that other artists couldn't do. I think Banksy's anonymity is now working against him. Look at what other artists are producing in terms of creativity and scale. The admittance into the main stream of 'street art' has allowed this to happen, but for Banksy it is still a quick hit and run stencil. He is capable of much better work than this, and on a much bigger scale. I hope we'll see some soon. Unfortunately too many people immediately jump up and down at the sight of a new 'Banksy' and start wetting themselves at how brilliant it is and how it might lead to a print. From what I first saw early on in Banksy's work, I didn't really expect we'd be standing still ten years on, particularly in the street work. Is that ok as part of the discussion on street art? yes it is and thankyou for taking the time to explain yourself. This doesn't feel like standing still to me, the detailing and the type of message has altered over time, but it's still part of the same body of work - which is fine for me (if not for you). As for scale guess that is dependant on doing a piece with permission (see CCTV) or doing it quickly without (perhaps this). If I'm honest I'd rather the quick smaller piece heralding back to the earlier era and to my mind more legit street art. This won't be a print. |
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Post by Viva La Republique on May 15, 2012 12:32:08 GMT 1
Bunting removal in progress...  I bet they stamp on children's sand castles as well. |
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 13:19:23 GMT 1
What they going to gain a 10 pence worth of bunting. Give me a break.
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2012 13:22:10 GMT 1
Bunting removal in progress... I bet they stamp on children's sand castles as well. what c**ts , how does taking this give you any satisfication , If you like Banksy work surely you leave it, If there was a Banksy piece placed on the street on metal or wood etc, then of courrse i understand that this would likly be removed, but generic flags from a pound shop or whatever its just idiotic and shows the people to be so money driven that they are blinded at how stupid they are by doing this |
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