walawak
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Copy aside from the edition, by walawak on Jan 16, 2012 17:22:30 GMT 1, I've been offered a "copy aside from an edition" of an image I've been chasing for a while. The price I've been quoted is much lower than what's currently the auction price for the editioned work (about 30% lower). Is this normal? Should I be wary?
I've been offered a "copy aside from an edition" of an image I've been chasing for a while. The price I've been quoted is much lower than what's currently the auction price for the editioned work (about 30% lower). Is this normal? Should I be wary?
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Copy aside from the edition, by Happy Shopper on Jan 16, 2012 17:26:44 GMT 1, If it's an unsigned Banksy... very wary.
If it's by an artist you like, and signed, that's OK. But bad of artists to make extra copies of editioned prints available.
If it's an unsigned Banksy... very wary.
If it's by an artist you like, and signed, that's OK. But bad of artists to make extra copies of editioned prints available.
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walawak
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Copy aside from the edition, by walawak on Jan 16, 2012 17:38:46 GMT 1, Thanks for the advice. While its not a Banksy it is a "big name artist" with a price tag that (for me at least) is pretty meaningful. I guess I'm just trying to make sure that I'm not being ripped off (not that I'm particularly interested in it for investment purposes, but who knows how the world will turn out).
Thanks for the advice. While its not a Banksy it is a "big name artist" with a price tag that (for me at least) is pretty meaningful. I guess I'm just trying to make sure that I'm not being ripped off (not that I'm particularly interested in it for investment purposes, but who knows how the world will turn out).
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Copy aside from the edition, by Happy Shopper on Jan 16, 2012 17:55:53 GMT 1, Does it have a proper COA? In the case of Banksy "backdoor" prints, they're worthless as they don't have a COA. Whoever the artist is, you may spend a lot, then never be able to sell it for the same if you needed to.
Does it have a proper COA? In the case of Banksy "backdoor" prints, they're worthless as they don't have a COA. Whoever the artist is, you may spend a lot, then never be able to sell it for the same if you needed to.
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Copy aside from the edition, by maumau93 on Jan 16, 2012 18:57:31 GMT 1, always ask for provenance if your spending allot of money otherwise you coulda just printed or painted it yourself for a hell of allot less...
always ask for provenance if your spending allot of money otherwise you coulda just printed or painted it yourself for a hell of allot less...
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Copy aside from the edition, by Brushstrokes 75 on Jan 16, 2012 20:45:19 GMT 1, If you tell me who the artist is (privately), I will tell you.
It depends on a lot of factor so it is hard to tell. If you're talking older prints, Proofs aside from the final edition are more scarce (so more expensive). That is for different reason. Usually proofs were the 1st printed which means better inking (the plates were not everlasting at the time). They were usually given to "important" people. Important in the meaning that they were given to people who mattered a bit to the artist : friends, collaborators etc....
Proofs can be working proofs (can be cheaper if it's missing too many colours), trial proofs (different colours so more expensive), proof of the final edition (usually a bit more expensive than the normal edition).
There is a lot of paremeters to take into account!
If you tell me who the artist is (privately), I will tell you.
It depends on a lot of factor so it is hard to tell. If you're talking older prints, Proofs aside from the final edition are more scarce (so more expensive). That is for different reason. Usually proofs were the 1st printed which means better inking (the plates were not everlasting at the time). They were usually given to "important" people. Important in the meaning that they were given to people who mattered a bit to the artist : friends, collaborators etc....
Proofs can be working proofs (can be cheaper if it's missing too many colours), trial proofs (different colours so more expensive), proof of the final edition (usually a bit more expensive than the normal edition).
There is a lot of paremeters to take into account!
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Copy aside from the edition, by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 21:05:59 GMT 1, Does it have a proper COA? In the case of Banksy "backdoor" prints, they're worthless as they don't have a COA. Whoever the artist is, you may spend a lot, then never be able to sell it for the same if you needed to.
Agreed.
Think about what would happen should you want to sell it. While that's something that you think will never happen at this point in time, tastes change, you may need to raise money etc.
If it's an amount you can afford to write off then go for it. If not, think about who else would buy something that may have questionable provenance ( if any ).
Does it have a proper COA? In the case of Banksy "backdoor" prints, they're worthless as they don't have a COA. Whoever the artist is, you may spend a lot, then never be able to sell it for the same if you needed to. Agreed. Think about what would happen should you want to sell it. While that's something that you think will never happen at this point in time, tastes change, you may need to raise money etc. If it's an amount you can afford to write off then go for it. If not, think about who else would buy something that may have questionable provenance ( if any ).
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walawak
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Copy aside from the edition, by walawak on Jan 16, 2012 21:54:24 GMT 1, Thanks to everyone for taking the time to post, much appreciated and some food for thought. Brushstrokes, appreciate the offer and I'll drop you a pm.
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to post, much appreciated and some food for thought. Brushstrokes, appreciate the offer and I'll drop you a pm.
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