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why is value is going down?, by fredflamme on May 4, 2010 23:28:00 GMT 1, Can you please tell me why most of the value of prints is going down ? Is the hype gone ? 
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why is value is going down?, by etched on May 4, 2010 23:51:23 GMT 1, Can you please tell me why most of the value of prints is going down ? Is the hype gone ?
hype has been outlawed - whats value? every single person is different - im going down on Karlos tonite 
Can you please tell me why most of the value of prints is going down ? Is the hype gone ? hype has been outlawed - whats value? every single person is different - im going down on Karlos tonite |
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why is value is going down?, by froz on May 5, 2010 3:19:43 GMT 1, Good riddence...people can finally purchase the prints for the purpose of putting them up on their wall...Wait another 20-30 years like most artists have for the "value" to go back up.
Good riddence...people can finally purchase the prints for the purpose of putting them up on their wall...Wait another 20-30 years like most artists have for the "value" to go back up.
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why is value is going down?, by hlarmy on May 5, 2010 3:52:54 GMT 1, The prints I want are going up; sods law...
The prints I want are going up; sods law...
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why is value is going down?, by froz on May 5, 2010 4:32:46 GMT 1, The prints I want are going up; sods law...
Give it time, I am sure they will go down. The only reason probably some of the prints you want are still going up is because the poor saps that purchased them at an exuberant amount are trying to break even to get their money back. Just sit and wait. Soon enough someone will need money and will need to get rid of them at a reasonable price.
The prints I want are going up; sods law... Give it time, I am sure they will go down. The only reason probably some of the prints you want are still going up is because the poor saps that purchased them at an exuberant amount are trying to break even to get their money back. Just sit and wait. Soon enough someone will need money and will need to get rid of them at a reasonable price. |
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why is value is going down?, by nah on May 5, 2010 13:41:37 GMT 1, because most artists discussed her with the exception of a very slim few have nothing to justify their high prices? no museum shows, no major gallery representation, no important exhibitions... practically unheard of in the 'real art world' yet their work costs the same as far bigger artists
because most artists discussed her with the exception of a very slim few have nothing to justify their high prices? no museum shows, no major gallery representation, no important exhibitions... practically unheard of in the 'real art world' yet their work costs the same as far bigger artists
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why is value is going down?, by nigelbgg on May 5, 2010 13:55:23 GMT 1, I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well.
Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up.
Beejoir Oil Cans and LV unsigned in particular.
Jamie Hewletts POW Editions.
Shepard Fairey Older prints have steadily risen.
Mau Mau Older prints, as well as some of his new ones.
Invaders older POW editions.
Must say though these have all dropped:
D*Face
Micaleff
Hirst
Blek
Brain Wash
Faile to some extent, but seem to be back on their way up.
I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well.
Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up.
Beejoir Oil Cans and LV unsigned in particular.
Jamie Hewletts POW Editions.
Shepard Fairey Older prints have steadily risen.
Mau Mau Older prints, as well as some of his new ones.
Invaders older POW editions.
Must say though these have all dropped:
D*Face
Micaleff
Hirst
Blek
Brain Wash
Faile to some extent, but seem to be back on their way up.
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why is value is going down?, by nigelbgg on May 5, 2010 13:59:24 GMT 1, Another point to be made, is that many people in this art game seem to be immensely short sighted, and happy to jump out of an artist quickly when they become not cool or have a dip.
In the real world, 90% of these artists are only at the very start of their careers, in 30 years they might be peaking, and the '' I owned 5 of his canvases and should have never sold'' sob stories will be flooding out.
Another point to be made, is that many people in this art game seem to be immensely short sighted, and happy to jump out of an artist quickly when they become not cool or have a dip.
In the real world, 90% of these artists are only at the very start of their careers, in 30 years they might be peaking, and the '' I owned 5 of his canvases and should have never sold'' sob stories will be flooding out.
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why is value is going down?, by Prescription Art on May 5, 2010 14:11:04 GMT 1, because most artists discussed her with the exception of a very slim few have nothing to justify their high prices? no museum shows, no major gallery representation, no important exhibitions... practically unheard of in the 'real art world' yet their work costs the same as far bigger artists
I think that's kind of irrelevant. Our is a different kind of art that doesn't rely on museum backing. How many people tread the streets photographing new Tracey Emin pieces? How many visitors does the Marc Quinn forum get? A hell of a lot of people collect this work and feel it relates to them much more than traditional contemporary art. And like anything else it's a matter of supply and demand.
That's not to say I don't think some artists' work is pretty poor and will be worthless in a few years, but I also think that in general street art is significant part of art history and will continue to be collected in many years time.
because most artists discussed her with the exception of a very slim few have nothing to justify their high prices? no museum shows, no major gallery representation, no important exhibitions... practically unheard of in the 'real art world' yet their work costs the same as far bigger artists I think that's kind of irrelevant. Our is a different kind of art that doesn't rely on museum backing. How many people tread the streets photographing new Tracey Emin pieces? How many visitors does the Marc Quinn forum get? A hell of a lot of people collect this work and feel it relates to them much more than traditional contemporary art. And like anything else it's a matter of supply and demand. That's not to say I don't think some artists' work is pretty poor and will be worthless in a few years, but I also think that in general street art is significant part of art history and will continue to be collected in many years time. |
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why is value is going down?, by Deleted on May 5, 2010 14:43:35 GMT 1, because most artists discussed her with the exception of a very slim few have nothing to justify their high prices? no museum shows, no major gallery representation, no important exhibitions... practically unheard of in the 'real art world' yet their work costs the same as far bigger artists I think that's kind of irrelevant. Our is a different kind of art that doesn't rely on museum backing. How many people tread the streets photographing new Tracey Emin pieces? How many visitors does the Marc Quinn forum get? A hell of a lot of people collect this work and feel it relates to them much more than traditional contemporary art. And like anything else it's a matter of supply and demand. That's not to say I don't think some artists' work is pretty poor and will be worthless in a few years, but I also think that in general street art is significant part of art history and will continue to be collected in many years time.
I love that this opinion is still held after ten years..it's a little like a music genre "House" for example.. as an underground movement in music born of Disco..as Street Art was from Graffiti.. You can hear House music in every bar shop and takeaway up and down the country everyday of the week.. it's become part of "Music" in general and can be considered mainstream these days.. much like aspects of street art and certain artists have become part of "Art" in general and in the cases of Shep Fairey and Banksy land.. mainstream.
But yes, I agree, like house music.. Street Art as a genre within "Art" is here to stay and will be collected as long as we have "Art".
because most artists discussed her with the exception of a very slim few have nothing to justify their high prices? no museum shows, no major gallery representation, no important exhibitions... practically unheard of in the 'real art world' yet their work costs the same as far bigger artists I think that's kind of irrelevant. Our is a different kind of art that doesn't rely on museum backing. How many people tread the streets photographing new Tracey Emin pieces? How many visitors does the Marc Quinn forum get? A hell of a lot of people collect this work and feel it relates to them much more than traditional contemporary art. And like anything else it's a matter of supply and demand. That's not to say I don't think some artists' work is pretty poor and will be worthless in a few years, but I also think that in general street art is significant part of art history and will continue to be collected in many years time. I love that this opinion is still held after ten years..it's a little like a music genre "House" for example.. as an underground movement in music born of Disco..as Street Art was from Graffiti.. You can hear House music in every bar shop and takeaway up and down the country everyday of the week.. it's become part of "Music" in general and can be considered mainstream these days.. much like aspects of street art and certain artists have become part of "Art" in general and in the cases of Shep Fairey and Banksy land.. mainstream. But yes, I agree, like house music.. Street Art as a genre within "Art" is here to stay and will be collected as long as we have "Art". |
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why is value is going down?, by stopki on May 5, 2010 14:50:47 GMT 1, I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well. Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up.
what ya mean VLH are on their way up.
I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well. Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up. what ya mean VLH are on their way up. |
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why is value is going down?, by schlomo on May 5, 2010 14:57:52 GMT 1, I think that's kind of irrelevant. Our is a different kind of art that doesn't rely on museum backing. How many people tread the streets photographing new Tracey Emin pieces? How many visitors does the Marc Quinn forum get? A hell of a lot of people collect this work and feel it relates to them much more than traditional contemporary art. And like anything else it's a matter of supply and demand. That's not to say I don't think some artists' work is pretty poor and will be worthless in a few years, but I also think that in general street art is significant part of art history and will continue to be collected in many years time. I love that this opinion is still held after ten years..it's a little like a music genre "House" for example.. as an underground movement in music born of Disco..as Street Art was from Graffiti.. You can hear House music in every bar shop and takeaway up and down the country everyday of the week.. it's become part of "Music" in general and can be considered mainstream these days.. much like aspects of street art and certain artists have become part of "Art" in general and in the cases of Shep Fairey and Banksy land.. mainstream. But yes, I agree, like house music.. Street Art as a genre within "Art" is here to stay and will be collected as long as we have "Art".
Theres a big difference between house music that makes the charts and actual house music. The stuff in the charts is pop, real house music is just as underground as its always been. (IMO).
I think that's kind of irrelevant. Our is a different kind of art that doesn't rely on museum backing. How many people tread the streets photographing new Tracey Emin pieces? How many visitors does the Marc Quinn forum get? A hell of a lot of people collect this work and feel it relates to them much more than traditional contemporary art. And like anything else it's a matter of supply and demand. That's not to say I don't think some artists' work is pretty poor and will be worthless in a few years, but I also think that in general street art is significant part of art history and will continue to be collected in many years time. I love that this opinion is still held after ten years..it's a little like a music genre "House" for example.. as an underground movement in music born of Disco..as Street Art was from Graffiti.. You can hear House music in every bar shop and takeaway up and down the country everyday of the week.. it's become part of "Music" in general and can be considered mainstream these days.. much like aspects of street art and certain artists have become part of "Art" in general and in the cases of Shep Fairey and Banksy land.. mainstream. But yes, I agree, like house music.. Street Art as a genre within "Art" is here to stay and will be collected as long as we have "Art". Theres a big difference between house music that makes the charts and actual house music. The stuff in the charts is pop, real house music is just as underground as its always been. (IMO). |
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why is value is going down?, by stopki on May 5, 2010 15:13:46 GMT 1, REAL HOUSE MUSIC doesnt really make much money.
commercialized house influenced music does...
- where does that leave everything.
REAL HOUSE MUSIC doesnt really make much money.
commercialized house influenced music does...
- where does that leave everything.
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why is value is going down?, by Prescription Art on May 5, 2010 15:22:29 GMT 1, But as you know stopki, REAL HOUSE MUSIC may not have made the creators much, but is highly valued by collectors...
But as you know stopki, REAL HOUSE MUSIC may not have made the creators much, but is highly valued by collectors...
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why is value is going down?, by schlomo on May 5, 2010 15:24:07 GMT 1, its also much better.
its also much better.
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why is value is going down?, by nigelbgg on May 5, 2010 15:28:16 GMT 1, The music industry and the Art market are two different worlds, especially if you're talking about it as an investment, which this thread is obviously doing.
The music industry and the Art market are two different worlds, especially if you're talking about it as an investment, which this thread is obviously doing.
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why is value is going down?, by spirit on May 5, 2010 15:37:24 GMT 1, Unsurprisingly, the good stuff is going up in value again (compared to last years lows) but the average to poor stuff is still losing value. A recession always sorts the wheat from the chaff...
Unsurprisingly, the good stuff is going up in value again (compared to last years lows) but the average to poor stuff is still losing value. A recession always sorts the wheat from the chaff...
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why is value is going down?, by peggy on May 5, 2010 15:42:11 GMT 1,
HOUSE MUSIC WOO-OOO.
PEGGY LIKES A LITTLE BIT OF THE OLD HOUSE.
AS FOR VALUE, PEGGY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT HER BONE COLLECTION IS WORTH?
HOUSE MUSIC WOO-OOO.
PEGGY LIKES A LITTLE BIT OF THE OLD HOUSE.
AS FOR VALUE, PEGGY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT HER BONE COLLECTION IS WORTH?
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why is value is going down?, by Karl Read on May 5, 2010 15:51:19 GMT 1, I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well. Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up. Beejoir Oil Cans and LV unsigned in particular. Jamie Hewletts POW Editions. Shepard Fairey Older prints have steadily risen. Mau Mau Older prints, as well as some of his new ones. Invaders older POW editions. Must say though these have all dropped: D*Face Micaleff Hirst Blek Brain Wash Faile to some extent, but seem to be back on their way up.
Pretty much agree apart from "shepard faireys older prints have gone up".
Id say the opposite.
I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well. Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up. Beejoir Oil Cans and LV unsigned in particular. Jamie Hewletts POW Editions. Shepard Fairey Older prints have steadily risen. Mau Mau Older prints, as well as some of his new ones. Invaders older POW editions. Must say though these have all dropped: D*Face Micaleff Hirst Blek Brain Wash Faile to some extent, but seem to be back on their way up. Pretty much agree apart from "shepard faireys older prints have gone up". Id say the opposite. |
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why is value is going down?, by Prescription Art on May 5, 2010 16:01:00 GMT 1,
This hip hop record sold for ยฃ3000 not long ago...!
This hip hop record sold for ยฃ3000 not long ago...!
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why is value is going down?, by AoT Framing on May 5, 2010 16:01:53 GMT 1, The music industry and the Art market are two different worlds, especially if you're talking about it as an investment, which this thread is obviously doing.
Yeah you can still make money out of Art, you rarely can with music....unless you're making money from live shows, selling lots of merchandise or have your music on a crappy advert, income from recorded music has got to the point where eventually they'll be giving away an album as a loss leader for the live show.
The music industry and the Art market are two different worlds, especially if you're talking about it as an investment, which this thread is obviously doing. Yeah you can still make money out of Art, you rarely can with music....unless you're making money from live shows, selling lots of merchandise or have your music on a crappy advert, income from recorded music has got to the point where eventually they'll be giving away an album as a loss leader for the live show. |
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why is value is going down?, by nigelbgg on May 5, 2010 16:07:54 GMT 1, I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well. Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up. Beejoir Oil Cans and LV unsigned in particular. Jamie Hewletts POW Editions. Shepard Fairey Older prints have steadily risen. Mau Mau Older prints, as well as some of his new ones. Invaders older POW editions. Must say though these have all dropped: D*Face Micaleff Hirst Blek Brain Wash Faile to some extent, but seem to be back on their way up. Pretty much agree apart from "shepard faireys older prints have gone up". Id say the opposite.
Not to sound like some speculation banker, but I think the below will start to creep up again soon:
Swoon
Jamie Reid
I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well. Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up. Beejoir Oil Cans and LV unsigned in particular. Jamie Hewletts POW Editions. Shepard Fairey Older prints have steadily risen. Mau Mau Older prints, as well as some of his new ones. Invaders older POW editions. Must say though these have all dropped: D*Face Micaleff Hirst Blek Brain Wash Faile to some extent, but seem to be back on their way up. Pretty much agree apart from "shepard faireys older prints have gone up". Id say the opposite. Not to sound like some speculation banker, but I think the below will start to creep up again soon: Swoon Jamie Reid |
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why is value is going down?, by Deleted on May 5, 2010 16:09:49 GMT 1, The music industry and the Art market are two different worlds, especially if you're talking about it as an investment, which this thread is obviously doing.
Sorry, thought the thread was talking about the "value" not "price", a common mistake I guess.
The music industry and the Art market are two different worlds, especially if you're talking about it as an investment, which this thread is obviously doing. Sorry, thought the thread was talking about the "value" not "price", a common mistake I guess. |
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why is value is going down?, by notworthit on May 5, 2010 16:47:43 GMT 1, Fuโขk what it's worth when you can dance  lol
Fuโขk what it's worth when you can dance lol |
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why is value is going down?, by notworthit on May 5, 2010 16:52:20 GMT 1,
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why is value is going down?, by Deleted on May 5, 2010 16:55:31 GMT 1,
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why is value is going down?, by Replete on May 5, 2010 17:26:28 GMT 1,
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why is value is going down?, by nigelbgg on May 5, 2010 17:31:45 GMT 1, The music industry and the Art market are two different worlds, especially if you're talking about it as an investment, which this thread is obviously doing. Sorry, thought the thread was talking about the "value" not "price", a common mistake I guess.
Don't be a cocky t**t.
The music industry and the Art market are two different worlds, especially if you're talking about it as an investment, which this thread is obviously doing. Sorry, thought the thread was talking about the "value" not "price", a common mistake I guess. Don't be a cocky t**t. |
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why is value is going down?, by jamesreeve5 on May 5, 2010 20:24:17 GMT 1, I think it's just a matter of over-production. The comic book craze of the 90s or the Beanie Baby craze of the early 00s are probably more analogous to the current situation we have in the "urban" art world. There will always be prized collector's pieces, but as more and more people's interests start deviating away from this form of art and in favor of other things, prices in general will continue to fall.
I think it's just a matter of over-production. The comic book craze of the 90s or the Beanie Baby craze of the early 00s are probably more analogous to the current situation we have in the "urban" art world. There will always be prized collector's pieces, but as more and more people's interests start deviating away from this form of art and in favor of other things, prices in general will continue to fall.
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why is value is going down?, by bigwilly on May 5, 2010 20:52:43 GMT 1, I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well. Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up. Beejoir Oil Cans and LV unsigned in particular. Jamie Hewletts POW Editions. Shepard Fairey Older prints have steadily risen. Mau Mau Older prints, as well as some of his new ones. Invaders older POW editions. Must say though these have all dropped: D*Face Micaleff Hirst Blek Brain Wash Faile to some extent, but seem to be back on their way up.
brainwash prices are the highest they have ever been! get on the gravy train soon felllas. I just sold a Ali Legend for $1500 and I only paid a little for that print!
I find the value of a few to be going up, and some strange ones as well. Banksy's older unsigned prints, and VLH are on their way up. Beejoir Oil Cans and LV unsigned in particular. Jamie Hewletts POW Editions. Shepard Fairey Older prints have steadily risen. Mau Mau Older prints, as well as some of his new ones. Invaders older POW editions. Must say though these have all dropped: D*Face Micaleff Hirst Blek Brain Wash Faile to some extent, but seem to be back on their way up. brainwash prices are the highest they have ever been! get on the gravy train soon felllas. I just sold a Ali Legend for $1500 and I only paid a little for that print! |
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