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Post by hlarmy on Aug 24, 2010 13:45:59 GMT 1
Yeah, because Banksy's always been all about making as much money as possible hasn't he  Come on! his work in America this year was all about promotion for the film. Dont get me wrong, I have no problem with that  we all love to see his street work no matter why/Where/How. Agreed Silky, and I would 100% expect him to promote it by doing what he loves. My initial argument, and I may be wrong, is that I doubt his reason for doing so much promotion is to just to make as much money as possible... but what do I know 
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Post by popecork on Aug 24, 2010 14:42:36 GMT 1
Thanks for posting! Definitely him unless PRIEST has taken a trip to Hastings. Very unlikely.
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Post by fuzzed on Aug 24, 2010 15:27:22 GMT 1
Cheers for posting. The colouring and shading are very good and the style says Banksy to me. Not 100% sure tho.
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Post by masonstorm on Aug 24, 2010 15:40:13 GMT 1
It's not
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Post by otomi on Aug 24, 2010 15:51:06 GMT 1
I think it is a Banksy. Not sure what it is about thou.
Don't wanna feed the trolls but most stuff in the US was done after the movie release. (except the LA stuff)
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Post by Sohoria on Aug 24, 2010 16:05:19 GMT 1
The flag looks odd on top of the castle and just flag in color makes me think not by MR B but could be wrong...s
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Post by BK83 on Aug 24, 2010 16:31:23 GMT 1
Making the call. Banksy.
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Post by agent provocateur on Aug 24, 2010 16:52:50 GMT 1
Looks like a Banksy to me, have seen some stencils duplicate his style but never his eye for placement, composition, message and humour... and if it was Eine's birthday at the weekend it would make a good excuse for him being down there.
Anything special planned for the big day Fragile?
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Post by Guest on Aug 24, 2010 17:42:59 GMT 1
Of course its banksy... Cant believe you so called fans cant tell....just like you thought the pom pom piece in the states was...when so obviously wasnt. Maybe you will find it easier if he starts tagging them again for you 
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Post by Daniel Silk on Aug 24, 2010 18:02:04 GMT 1
Of course its banksy... Cant believe you so called fans cant tell....just like you thought the pom pom piece in the states was...when so obviously wasnt. Maybe you will find it easier if he starts tagging them again for you  Its all part of the fun  is it? isnt it? I wonder if he did the sandcastles on a stone beach just to get us going 
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Post by Leftery on Aug 24, 2010 18:41:41 GMT 1
For what it's worth, I think it's someone who's almost nailed Mr B's style. I've always admired Banksys use of shading, underspray and freehand work with his stencils (especially in his more recent bits), but this looks a bit heavy and a bit clumsy. Maybe if he was out 'celebrating' with Eine this could be put down to drinking and spraying but I'm still not convinced. Plus, the Tesco reference just doesn't seem quite right. Lef 
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Post by fragile on Aug 24, 2010 18:45:44 GMT 1
'Any person found painting graffiti on these premises will be reported to the nearest art dealer'
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Post by coach on Aug 24, 2010 18:50:23 GMT 1
Very definate response. Most others posting just an opinion. How do you know not?
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Post by hupster on Aug 24, 2010 18:54:02 GMT 1
Just looking at the pics i think its in a very clever position.. Nowone can rip it down, no one can cover it up as the sea water will get to it over time.......
Or am i looking into this alittle too much
Hupster
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Post by coach on Aug 24, 2010 18:54:55 GMT 1
What would you say the message of the piece is? My guess would be that these days kids natural thought about what a landmark looks like is a tescos store. In the old days landmarks were castles and the like. Its like that film where you show a kid pics of things like Ronald MacDonald, they all know who it is. Power of corporate advertising........ I still think its a Banksy. Trademark Banksy! (irony!) Cheers c
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Post by Guest on Aug 24, 2010 19:52:20 GMT 1
This looks like a Banksy but the only thing nagging my mind with doubt is the fact that the message is a tad murky.
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Post by Cornishcrayon on Aug 24, 2010 20:23:12 GMT 1
Not sure on the tesco's theme again, would he hang onto that theme, I'm not so sure and if there is a message relating to tesco's then surely the flag should be more sort of world related as tesco's are now going worldwide, so complete domination, not just the UK Is it Banksy ? Dunno 
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Post by naughtyshorty on Aug 24, 2010 23:58:41 GMT 1
i reckon it is. im more convinced that this is a banksy than the supposed one in glasto. however i know im virtually on my own in that view!
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Post by rockhopper on Aug 25, 2010 10:36:24 GMT 1
Do you know the exact location?
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Post by bullet on Aug 25, 2010 10:44:16 GMT 1
whether its a banksy or not.. the subject is awful.
its just saying that there is loads of large 'consumer' places like tesco taking over around the UK by opening swarms of large stores i guess. some classic dig at consumerism. sigh.
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Post by jdwheeler on Aug 25, 2010 10:54:34 GMT 1
What would you say the message of the piece is? My guess would be that these days kids natural thought about what a landmark looks like is a tescos store. In the old days landmarks were castles and the like. Its like that film where you show a kid pics of things like Ronald MacDonald, they all know who it is. Power of corporate advertising........ I still think its a Banksy. Trademark Banksy! (irony!) Cheers c Comment on the state of the UK economy? I.e. castles built on sand.
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Post by joevalentino on Aug 25, 2010 11:04:50 GMT 1
What would you say the message of the piece is? My guess would be that these days kids natural thought about what a landmark looks like is a tescos store. In the old days landmarks were castles and the like. Its like that film where you show a kid pics of things like Ronald MacDonald, they all know who it is. Power of corporate advertising........ I still think its a Banksy. Trademark Banksy! (irony!) Cheers c there is no irony in that piece, its another dig at tesco's, whats that the 3rd or 4th time now - i've lost count. What did he lose his club-card points?
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Post by Nuart 2013 on Aug 25, 2010 11:06:42 GMT 1
whether its a banksy or not.. the subject is awful. its just saying that there is loads of large 'consumer' places like tesco taking over around the UK by opening swarms of large stores i guess. some classic dig at consumerism. sigh. Unlike wonky legged pig trotter Marilyn on a space hopper..which is saying...errrm ? 
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Post by twinkle on Aug 25, 2010 11:08:47 GMT 1
I haven't had time to take a look in person but I think it could be cleverly placed. If its on the sea wall then it could well be over looked by the real Hastings Castle, ie in the background.
I think its just a comment on the 'old and the new', with the traditional old world represented by the castle (as it does in the town itself, looking down on the modern sprawl below), and the new commercial world where Tesco basically swallows up every available space, replacing the all the traditional shops and selling just about everything you'll ever need, squeezing out the old,....unfortunately.....
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Post by bullet on Aug 25, 2010 11:18:56 GMT 1
whether its a banksy or not.. the subject is awful. its just saying that there is loads of large 'consumer' places like tesco taking over around the UK by opening swarms of large stores i guess. some classic dig at consumerism. sigh. Unlike wonky legged pig trotter Marilyn on a space hopper..which is saying...errrm ?  no point in using that as a comeback, its not intending to give a big message like banksy is. The tesco thing just fails IMO
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Post by Guest on Aug 25, 2010 11:22:14 GMT 1
What did he lose his club-card points?[/quote] Thats funny!.
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Post by bullet on Aug 25, 2010 11:22:47 GMT 1
I haven't had time to take a look in person but I think it could be cleverly placed. If its on the sea wall then it could well be over looked by the real Hastings Castle, ie in the background. I think its just a comment on the 'old and the new', with the traditional old world represented by the castle (as it does in the town itself, looking down on the modern sprawl below), and the new commercial world where Tesco basically swallows up every available space, replacing the all the traditional shops and selling just about everything you'll ever need, squeezing out the old,....unfortunately..... the castle represents the UK with the Uk flag by the looks of it. He must of done it when he was drunk.. far to many mixed messages
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Post by nex on Aug 25, 2010 11:28:51 GMT 1
each to his own, but i'll never get bored of attacks on Tesco's in alot of ways they representive of the wonderful effect on society that capitalism has, yes there are lots more unethical firms out there, yes capitalism is inherently unethical, but there aren't many companies in the same league as Tesco's for having crept into the nation's psyche over the last 30 years.
whether you like this piece, are bored by it, or hate it, at least for once we're discussing an image rather than prices, flipping,psychosis, or urban art awards funding
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Post by joevalentino on Aug 25, 2010 11:46:05 GMT 1
each to his own, but i'll never get bored of attacks on Tesco's in alot of ways they representive of the wonderful effect on society that capitalism has, yes there are lots more unethical firms out there, yes capitalism is inherently unethical, but there aren't many companies in the same league as Tesco's for having crept into the nation's psyche over the last 30 years. whether you like this piece, are bored by it, or hate it, at least for once we're discussing an image rather than prices, flipping,psychosis, or urban art awards funding Bet you Tesco sell more of the Banksy dvd then any other outlet though - thus pocketing the Banksy crew the most money. What would be ironic is if Tesco start having pops at Banksy for commercial exploitation of the movie.
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Post by nex on Aug 25, 2010 11:47:39 GMT 1
and that's the wonderful thing about capitalism Joe it makes hypocrites out of all us 
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