dvda
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by dvda on May 7, 2009 14:55:58 GMT 1, high.
I was curious about everyones thoughts on inexpensive framing.
Like many of us, I have way too many prints that are sitting in tubes.
And with the economy the way it is, I don't foresee many of them getting framed for a long time.
Am I better off continuing to store them in tubes? Or would I be better off transferring them to some cheap ikea(ish) frames?
Advice, opinions and even sarcasm are welcome replies.
thx.
high.
I was curious about everyones thoughts on inexpensive framing.
Like many of us, I have way too many prints that are sitting in tubes.
And with the economy the way it is, I don't foresee many of them getting framed for a long time.
Am I better off continuing to store them in tubes? Or would I be better off transferring them to some cheap ikea(ish) frames?
Advice, opinions and even sarcasm are welcome replies.
thx.
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by wiz on May 7, 2009 14:58:53 GMT 1, Frame them if you have wallspace imo., or just sell the ones you dont want!.
edit: ignore that, do what CJ says.
Frame them if you have wallspace imo., or just sell the ones you dont want!.
edit: ignore that, do what CJ says.
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curiousgeorge
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by curiousgeorge on May 7, 2009 14:59:12 GMT 1, Selwyn Archival sleeves would be a better option that in tubes, and purists might say even better than a cheap frame
I think you can get a pack of 10 sleeves for around £150
www.selwyns.com/sleeves.php
Selwyn Archival sleeves would be a better option that in tubes, and purists might say even better than a cheap frame I think you can get a pack of 10 sleeves for around £150 www.selwyns.com/sleeves.php |
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etched
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February 2008
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by etched on May 7, 2009 15:31:33 GMT 1, high. I was curious about everyones thoughts on inexpensive framing. Like many of us, I have way too many prints that are sitting in tubes. And with the economy the way it is, I don't foresee many of them getting framed for a long time. Am I better off continuing to store them in tubes? Or would I be better off transferring them to some cheap ikea(ish) frames? Advice, opinions and even sarcasm are welcome replies. thx.
you should never store prints in tubes - tubes are just for transportation ;D
high. I was curious about everyones thoughts on inexpensive framing. Like many of us, I have way too many prints that are sitting in tubes. And with the economy the way it is, I don't foresee many of them getting framed for a long time. Am I better off continuing to store them in tubes? Or would I be better off transferring them to some cheap ikea(ish) frames? Advice, opinions and even sarcasm are welcome replies. thx. you should never store prints in tubes - tubes are just for transportation ;D |
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by manty on May 7, 2009 16:03:48 GMT 1, Get them on the wall. Habitat do some cheap frames
Get them on the wall. Habitat do some cheap frames
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darrenrapley
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June 2008
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by darrenrapley on May 7, 2009 17:13:26 GMT 1, I use a rota system.
I have 4 IKEA 70x50 frames (£20) that I put prints in until I can afford custom frames.
If I haven't moved it into a proper frame in 3 months or so it means that I don't like it as much as I thought and so store it.
I use a rota system.
I have 4 IKEA 70x50 frames (£20) that I put prints in until I can afford custom frames.
If I haven't moved it into a proper frame in 3 months or so it means that I don't like it as much as I thought and so store it.
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Heavyconsumer
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February 2008
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by Heavyconsumer on May 7, 2009 17:25:02 GMT 1, If I had Habitat or Ikea (or anywhere) locally that sold that size of cheap frame, I would go with cheap frame as opposed to no frame, but I don't, so the few unframed prints I have with me are in a sleeve between 2 large pieces of wood (haven't even found a damned flat file in this city!). Make sure you get your prints out of those tubes and flattened unless you want rippled prints on the wall. Those Selwyns sleeves look amazing especially for larger prints, but even a cheapo A1 'folio with cheapo acid free sleeves is a lot better than keeping them rolled up too long (Search the forum for "portfolio", there must be a dozen+ threads in here about where to get cheap ones - you can get sorted for around £30ish).
If I had Habitat or Ikea (or anywhere) locally that sold that size of cheap frame, I would go with cheap frame as opposed to no frame, but I don't, so the few unframed prints I have with me are in a sleeve between 2 large pieces of wood (haven't even found a damned flat file in this city!). Make sure you get your prints out of those tubes and flattened unless you want rippled prints on the wall. Those Selwyns sleeves look amazing especially for larger prints, but even a cheapo A1 'folio with cheapo acid free sleeves is a lot better than keeping them rolled up too long (Search the forum for "portfolio", there must be a dozen+ threads in here about where to get cheap ones - you can get sorted for around £30ish).
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neale
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December 2008
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by neale on May 7, 2009 19:46:16 GMT 1, Buy a A1 folio from ebay, about £40 but you can store 20 prints flat in it safely and add extra leaves if you need. cheap frames always look cr@p and do the art no favours, enjoy them in the folio for a while
Buy a A1 folio from ebay, about £40 but you can store 20 prints flat in it safely and add extra leaves if you need. cheap frames always look cr@p and do the art no favours, enjoy them in the folio for a while
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by hero on May 7, 2009 19:47:50 GMT 1, i just use some duct tape or failing that extra strong sellotape, im guessing its alright, none of my banksys have come down yet
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i just use some duct tape or failing that extra strong sellotape, im guessing its alright, none of my banksys have come down yet
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gwenie
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December 2008
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by gwenie on May 7, 2009 20:06:25 GMT 1, I find double sided tape works rather well.
I find double sided tape works rather well.
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by hero on May 7, 2009 20:13:24 GMT 1, must try that, is that what everyone calls "float mounting"?
must try that, is that what everyone calls "float mounting"?
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by Martin Whatson on May 7, 2009 20:39:28 GMT 1, Hah!
I go for cheap frames for the cheaper prints untill I can afford to frame them professionally!!
Dont keep them in tubes tho! :S
Hah!
I go for cheap frames for the cheaper prints untill I can afford to frame them professionally!!
Dont keep them in tubes tho! :S
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by Guest on May 8, 2009 13:41:41 GMT 1, the good thing with tubes is that you can make a sculpture out of them.
the good thing with tubes is that you can make a sculpture out of them.
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G-Man
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November 2007
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by G-Man on May 8, 2009 13:48:14 GMT 1, I go for frame express... frame express.net i think?... for my cheap frames they do custom sizes etc and can be acid free backed for cheap framing
Better than the IKEA jobbies as you can vary the sizes and frames etc more and still cheap, they deliver them to your door.. my Eine LOVE is somewhere on here in a frame from them and I have just ordered frames for my blek and slink this week
Others that are waiting Mrs G-Man approval stored flat in a potfolio as discussed many times on here
I go for frame express... frame express.net i think?... for my cheap frames they do custom sizes etc and can be acid free backed for cheap framing
Better than the IKEA jobbies as you can vary the sizes and frames etc more and still cheap, they deliver them to your door.. my Eine LOVE is somewhere on here in a frame from them and I have just ordered frames for my blek and slink this week
Others that are waiting Mrs G-Man approval stored flat in a potfolio as discussed many times on here
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jusdeep
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October 2007
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by jusdeep on May 8, 2009 15:59:10 GMT 1, I have tried frame express and similar for a few lesser cost prints and you would probably be able to find cheaper on E-bay, especially if you are buying a frame at a regular size (50x70, A4, A3 etc). The quality of frames was quite bad for any money and wouldn't use them again. Either store your prints in archival acid free sleeves or rotate them in Ikea/habitat frames out of direct sunlight and wait until you can afford to get them framed up properly.
I have tried frame express and similar for a few lesser cost prints and you would probably be able to find cheaper on E-bay, especially if you are buying a frame at a regular size (50x70, A4, A3 etc). The quality of frames was quite bad for any money and wouldn't use them again. Either store your prints in archival acid free sleeves or rotate them in Ikea/habitat frames out of direct sunlight and wait until you can afford to get them framed up properly.
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klyde
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May 2007
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by klyde on May 8, 2009 16:13:47 GMT 1, I go for frame express... frame express.net i think?... for my cheap frames they do custom sizes etc and can be acid free backed for cheap framing Better than the IKEA jobbies as you can vary the sizes and frames etc more and still cheap, they deliver them to your door.. my Eine LOVE is somewhere on here in a frame from them and I have just ordered frames for my blek and slink this week Others that are waiting Mrs G-Man approval stored flat in a potfolio as discussed many times on here
I take it Mrs G-man call the shots then! Grim!
Imo I dont see the point in owning prints just to keep in a portfolio. I only buy if I know where I can hang it. I know people like to store and collect things, but surely art is supposed to be on walls? If you cant afford to frame what you have, now is the time to stop buying, or start selling.
I go for frame express... frame express.net i think?... for my cheap frames they do custom sizes etc and can be acid free backed for cheap framing Better than the IKEA jobbies as you can vary the sizes and frames etc more and still cheap, they deliver them to your door.. my Eine LOVE is somewhere on here in a frame from them and I have just ordered frames for my blek and slink this week Others that are waiting Mrs G-Man approval stored flat in a potfolio as discussed many times on here I take it Mrs G-man call the shots then! Grim! Imo I dont see the point in owning prints just to keep in a portfolio. I only buy if I know where I can hang it. I know people like to store and collect things, but surely art is supposed to be on walls? If you cant afford to frame what you have, now is the time to stop buying, or start selling. |
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by thegreatarchitect on May 8, 2009 17:18:29 GMT 1, A bit odd I know but all my frames i get by trawling the charity shops. It takes a while to find suitable ones but every so often I have found some real smart ones that are quality and with a bit of attention they've cleaned up nicely. repainted some of them then sanded them back. Twice now I've managed to find two large solid wooden carved frames in the baroque style paid pennies for them. My local framers which i never bother with wanted £70.00 ( Approx A2 in size) to make for one i found in a charity shop and paid £2.00 for.
If you've got the time its always worth a quick trawl
Never leave your art in the tubes
A bit odd I know but all my frames i get by trawling the charity shops. It takes a while to find suitable ones but every so often I have found some real smart ones that are quality and with a bit of attention they've cleaned up nicely. repainted some of them then sanded them back. Twice now I've managed to find two large solid wooden carved frames in the baroque style paid pennies for them. My local framers which i never bother with wanted £70.00 ( Approx A2 in size) to make for one i found in a charity shop and paid £2.00 for.
If you've got the time its always worth a quick trawl
Never leave your art in the tubes
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dodge
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by dodge on May 8, 2009 19:30:14 GMT 1, DON'T USE CHEAP FRAMES! If you value your prints and want to keep them in good condition (which I'm sure you do), do the job properly. Hang on and get UV protected glass and keep them stored flat in an archival folder, as suggested by Curiousgeorge. I put a few prints in cheap, off the shelf frames and ended up getting them all reframed. I have a local framer in my village now who does everything and is very reasonable. He just framed an applause (big print), with UV protected glass, double mount and acid free materials for £100!
DON'T USE CHEAP FRAMES! If you value your prints and want to keep them in good condition (which I'm sure you do), do the job properly. Hang on and get UV protected glass and keep them stored flat in an archival folder, as suggested by Curiousgeorge. I put a few prints in cheap, off the shelf frames and ended up getting them all reframed. I have a local framer in my village now who does everything and is very reasonable. He just framed an applause (big print), with UV protected glass, double mount and acid free materials for £100!
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Dr Bastard
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by Dr Bastard on May 9, 2009 18:35:11 GMT 1, I have the same problem- lots of prints i want to display but lack of funds to frame them all.
For my less expensive prints, I found these "poster pockets".
They are about 15$ USD each and work perfectly. The one thing i'm not sure about is if they are acid-free. I am assuming so but still trying to get more details.
www.bagsunlimited.com/cart/browse.asp?subcat=149
These BAST prints aren't a standard size so they don't fit perfectly but the poster pockets do the job.
I have the same problem- lots of prints i want to display but lack of funds to frame them all. For my less expensive prints, I found these "poster pockets". They are about 15$ USD each and work perfectly. The one thing i'm not sure about is if they are acid-free. I am assuming so but still trying to get more details. www.bagsunlimited.com/cart/browse.asp?subcat=149 These BAST prints aren't a standard size so they don't fit perfectly but the poster pockets do the job. |
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frontierman
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by frontierman on May 11, 2009 13:22:52 GMT 1, Never use cheap frames, apart from not having UV glass, you will have condensation on the inner surface of the glass which will get transferred to the print, you will need to put spacers in to keep the glass off the print, that is what a mount is primary for. Lets say you put a 50x70cm print in a 50x70cm frame the odds are that the edges of the paper will touch the inside of the frame, acid from the wood will leach into the edge of the print, also the backing is cr@p so you will need a barrier board. It will cost you more in the long run, get them out of the tubes, go to your local framer for a couple sheets of conservation mountboard and get some acid-free tissue paper and make a portfolio with the conservation board, place your prints in between layers of tissue paper and put in between the mountboard. You will save money in the long run, which you can then pay a framer with to do a decent framing job
Never use cheap frames, apart from not having UV glass, you will have condensation on the inner surface of the glass which will get transferred to the print, you will need to put spacers in to keep the glass off the print, that is what a mount is primary for. Lets say you put a 50x70cm print in a 50x70cm frame the odds are that the edges of the paper will touch the inside of the frame, acid from the wood will leach into the edge of the print, also the backing is cr@p so you will need a barrier board. It will cost you more in the long run, get them out of the tubes, go to your local framer for a couple sheets of conservation mountboard and get some acid-free tissue paper and make a portfolio with the conservation board, place your prints in between layers of tissue paper and put in between the mountboard. You will save money in the long run, which you can then pay a framer with to do a decent framing job
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by Mentis Statum on Sept 9, 2009 20:42:36 GMT 1, why have i just found this part of the forum? ive had art in tubes for years....s**t!
why have i just found this part of the forum? ive had art in tubes for years....s**t!
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craigf
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cheap frames VS. no frames, by craigf on Sept 12, 2009 9:56:04 GMT 1, why have i just found this part of the forum? ive had art in tubes for years.... s**t!
Well you know what you need to do! Don't whatever you do force the prints flat too quickly. Let them slowly relax out of the tube
why have i just found this part of the forum? ive had art in tubes for years.... s**t! Well you know what you need to do! Don't whatever you do force the prints flat too quickly. Let them slowly relax out of the tube |
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