[Octopus UK]

Hi, sometimes on this forum I see reference to a POW lottery for future Banksy prints. Does anyone know how the lottery MIGHT work?

One option is everyone buys a "ticket" which are limited in number (say for a print run of 100, 1000 tickets are issued). The price of the ticket would represent the ratio between prints to tickets (eg prints worth £200, tickets cost £20). Then a number of tickets equal to the number of prints would be drawn (No one gets refunds but the winners get a £200 print for £20).

Another is that the unlimited number of tickets are free (but limited to one per person) and 100 are selected and these people pay the full cost of the print (£200).

Any thoughts?

[manchestermike]

octopusuk said:

Hi, sometimes on this forum I see reference to a POW lottery for future Banksy prints. Does anyone know how the lottery MIGHT work?

One option is everyone buys a "ticket" which are limited in number (say for a print run of 100, 1000 tickets are issued). The price of the ticket would represent the ratio between prints to tickets (eg prints worth £200, tickets cost £20). Then a number of tickets equal to the number of prints would be drawn (No one gets refunds but the winners get a £200 print for £20).

Another is that the unlimited number of tickets are free (but limited to one per person) and 100 are selected and these people pay the full cost of the print (£200).

Any thoughts?

The second option - the first is a raffle

[monochrome]

a big machine, named after some mythical character in english lore
49 balls, numbered, coloured
tickets
live feed on tv


that's how i'd run a lottery.

[corblimeylimey]

octopusuk said:

Hi, sometimes on this forum I see reference to a POW lottery for future Banksy prints. Does anyone know how the lottery MIGHT work?

One option is everyone buys a "ticket" which are limited in number (say for a print run of 100, 1000 tickets are issued). The price of the ticket would represent the ratio between prints to tickets (eg prints worth £200, tickets cost £20). Then a number of tickets equal to the number of prints would be drawn (No one gets refunds but the winners get a £200 print for £20).

Another is that the unlimited number of tickets are free (but limited to one per person) and 100 are selected and these people pay the full cost of the print (£200).

Any thoughts?

Don't like the idea of paying for nothing.

If it were to be a lottery, why not take details of anyone interested, and then pick the lucky few at random.

[Octopus UK]

manchestermike said:

The second option - the first is a raffle

I'd prefer the second option but how to stop someone getting lots of tickets? With option 1 at least someone has to pay cash for each ticket. But if you have deep pockets you could amost guarantee getting a print by buying lots and lots of tickets.

[stuey09]

I think the prints should be given to me for safe keeping. I ran a lottery at work once (well a raffle) and it worked well. I wonder how many prints I would manage to lose behind my sofa though. I'd make PoW look almost careful.

[Tyler Durden]

50p in a letter with your name, address and e-mail. There's gonna be duplicates no matter how you do it, but at least this way POW would maintain the 'offering of prints at affordable prices' and also amass a huge collection of 50ps with which to employ someone who could give us updates on when stuff's coming out.

[Run Pig Run]

I was told at SG it would be a lottery, you put your name forward a computer chooses the winners and you are commited to buy at full price.

[Run Pig Run]

.....but who knows?

[corblimeylimey]

She sure don't

[tomhills1]

i think it was you BH before who said if they did run a lottery you would just get every member of your family and all your friends to register, that would increase the chances!

personally, i think they should do it one evening when most people will be at home and at least the americans will be out of bed. there will always be a few people that miss out but maybe try to please the majority.

[smashedhat]

You need a government licence to run a lottery. I found this out whilst working at BT when their legal team got rather heavy with a web competiton we were running. That's why you can normally enter via an SAE for free (stamp aside) fact fans

[®at]

Whatever it is I wish they would bloody hurry up and sort it out

[hexagonsun]

Amen to that.

[BK83]

Unfortunately it will inevitably be irrelevant how they decide to release the prints as there are going to be mass amounts of people who don't get one and decide to complain about it directly to POW thus making the following print release delayed again..... GOOD LUCK!

[tomhills1]

smashedhat said:

You need a government licence to run a lottery. I found this out whilst working at BT when their legal team got rather heavy with a web competiton we were running. That's why you can normally enter via an SAE for free (stamp aside) fact fans

surely you only need one if you're charging? you could have a lottery if you could register for free. although i believe that is called a ballot. feel free to pull me up, i'm assuming this knowledge.

[pezlow]

You are right lesbian wednesday. A ballot for release of the prints would be perfectly legal and is done frequently for tickets to concerts and sporting events.

[stylus]

Personally, I think the lottery is now unlikely. I think that POW always follow the path of least resistance to them. The lottery idea (unless I'm mistaken) came about because their site couldn't handle the load of a billion people all refreshing at once. Their new website doesn't appear to suffer from this... so why do all of the admin associated with a ballot when they could just release them on the website as with the other prints? My two cents worth. :-)

[Run Pig Run]

i reckon you are right. I think they will put all 3000 prints up on a monday morning and two minutes later all the people who have access to a computer during the day will have snapped them up. I wonder what 3000 tubes all stacked up looks like?

[corblimeylimey]

bombhugger said:

i reckon you are right. I think they will put all 3000 prints up on a monday morning and two minutes later all the people who have access to a computer during the day will have snapped them up. I wonder what 3000 tubes all stacked up looks like?

Like a big pile of tubes? ;D

[mcnuts]

corblimeylimey said:

bombhugger said:

i reckon you are right. I think they will put all 3000 prints up on a monday morning and two minutes later all the people who have access to a computer during the day will have snapped them up. I wonder what 3000 tubes all stacked up looks like?

Like a big pile of tubes? ;D

What if instead of a lottery, everyone just went down to a location and payed a fiver and picked a tube at random. One tube per go, then go back of the cue. Some tubes have banksy's, signed and unsigned while others have Zeus prints

[victorwilliams]

This may sound crazy but why don't they just stick all the out standing LA's on the site at any given time and stop whipping up all this mayhem.[shadow=red,left,300]Why do they need to have a lottery?[/shadow]Prints will end up on ebay however they do it, everyone knows that!


Sure I want one of the outstanding LA's but if I miss it, no big deal life goes on I wont pay ebay prices for it and I wont go crying to POW either.

[mcnuts]

victorwilliams said:

This may sound crazy but why don't they just stick all the out standing LA's on the site at any given time and stop whipping up all this mayhem.[shadow=red,left,300]Why do they need to have a lottery?[/shadow]Prints will end up on ebay however they do it, everyone knows that!

i still like my tube idea. they can be sold out of the back of a white van that drives around the country

[Curley]

I agree, put them all up at the same time, 1 per person and that is 2600 happy people.

At least with 2600 up at one time it may take them a lilttle longer to sell out than 4 separate releases of 650.

[ricosg11]

gosh I just want a signed trollies and morons. Is that too much to ask?

Just want it to be overwith.

[corblimeylimey]

curley said:

I agree, put them all up at the same time, 1 per person and that is 2600 happy people.

At least with 2600 up at one time it may take them a lilttle longer to sell out than 4 separate releases of 650.

That's the way to do it.