[rbt]

EDITION SIZE : 75

DIMENSIONS : 79.38 cm x 63.5 cm (31.25 in. x 25 in.)

TECHNIQUE : 8-color lithograph, hand cut.

PAPER :Somerset satin, white 300 gsm.

SIGNATURE : Signed by the artist on the back, numbered and stamped by our publishing house.

CO-EDITION : with Canada Gallery

PRICE : CHF 3’050 (≈ $3'500, exclusive of VAT)
Please note this lithograph will be sold at tiered pricing.

jrp-editions.com/art/multiples/lithograph/looking-out-to-sea/

[biggieg]

Lovely print, thoughts on price?

[Sunny Garcia]

Too much

[Wendero]

-Pricey
-Not hand embellished
-$3500 starting price…..

[Fuzzyduck121]

pricing on these and the unique monotypes that were sent out for preorders earlier in the week are utterly mental

Primary galleries dont seem to have woken up yet to the state of the market

wont take too much longer until they get the message

[its all about me]

3.5K for that? Seriously? I think someone is taking the p*ss.

If you did that at art college you would be laughed off campus.

[Fuzzyduck121]

I dont think the quality of the work, which is subjective is relevant.

The issue is that primary galleries seem totally delusional about secondary pricing

you cannot sell work at source for twice what it sells for on the secondary market and expect to generate cash

I dont think any gallery has actually figured this out, or they wont accept that their profit calculations are way way off

eventually reality takes over

same for any business model

[ca]

jrp editions have always been in pricing lalaland

[Criminal Mischief]

When you get into the higher quality print shops, oftentimes $5k-7k is very common, making this on the lower end comparatively. I once spoke to a friend who was partner at a reputable print shop who told me unless a print is $3,500 or higher a lot of major collectors and institutions wouldn't even consider it. I agree that it's high, but comparatively, thousands of us happily spent exactly that amount on mass-produced open edition glitter butterflies by Damian Hirst.

When you look specifically at Katherine Bradford's market, you see people trying to re-sell digital prints of hers for this price (if you don't understand the difference between a digital print and an 8-color litho then you should educate yourself on printmaking before collecting). And the original painting this print is based on sold for $140k a few months ago (https://www.phillips.com/detail/katherine-bradford/NY010523/323) so, the pricing doesn't seem that outrageous to me.

[Fluffy Pillow]

Feb 8, 2024 16:32:56 GMT 1 Criminal Mischief said:

When you get into the higher quality print shops, oftentimes $5k-7k is very common, making this on the lower end comparatively. I once spoke to a friend who was partner at a reputable print shop who told me unless a print is $3,500 or higher a lot of major collectors and institutions wouldn't even consider it. I agree that it's high, but comparatively, thousands of us happily spent exactly that amount on mass-produced open edition glitter butterflies by Damian Hirst.

"Suckers are born every day" is how I read this.

[nobokov]

Feb 8, 2024 16:32:56 GMT 1 Criminal Mischief said:

When you get into the higher quality print shops, oftentimes $5k-7k is very common, making this on the lower end comparatively. I once spoke to a friend who was partner at a reputable print shop who told me unless a print is $3,500 or higher a lot of major collectors and institutions wouldn't even consider it. I agree that it's high, but comparatively, thousands of us happily spent exactly that amount on mass-produced open edition glitter butterflies by Damian Hirst.

When you look specifically at Katherine Bradford's market, you see people trying to re-sell digital prints of hers for this price (if you don't understand the difference between a digital print and an 8-color litho then you should educate yourself on printmaking before collecting). And the original painting this print is based on sold for $140k a few months ago (https://www.phillips.com/detail/katherine-bradford/NY010523/323) so, the pricing doesn't seem that outrageous to me.

The print looks nice. I'm glad that we all had the opportunity to buy her hand painted prints for much less a few years ago. Back in 2020 a 16x12 canvas was $8000, $45k for a 72x60 inch

[Pawel]

Feb 8, 2024 20:21:36 GMT 1 nobokov said:

Feb 8, 2024 16:32:56 GMT 1 Criminal Mischief said:

When you get into the higher quality print shops, oftentimes $5k-7k is very common, making this on the lower end comparatively. I once spoke to a friend who was partner at a reputable print shop who told me unless a print is $3,500 or higher a lot of major collectors and institutions wouldn't even consider it. I agree that it's high, but comparatively, thousands of us happily spent exactly that amount on mass-produced open edition glitter butterflies by Damian Hirst.

When you look specifically at Katherine Bradford's market, you see people trying to re-sell digital prints of hers for this price (if you don't understand the difference between a digital print and an 8-color litho then you should educate yourself on printmaking before collecting). And the original painting this print is based on sold for $140k a few months ago (https://www.phillips.com/detail/katherine-bradford/NY010523/323) so, the pricing doesn't seem that outrageous to me.

The print looks nice. I'm glad that we all had the opportunity to buy her hand painted prints for much less a few years ago. Back in 2020 a 16x12 canvas was $8000, $45k for a 72x60 inch

I nearly bought a large one but went for a different artist. Regret it since to no be honest
 

[nobokov]

Feb 8, 2024 20:25:27 GMT 1 Pawel said:

Feb 8, 2024 20:21:36 GMT 1 nobokov said:

The print looks nice. I'm glad that we all had the opportunity to buy her hand painted prints for much less a few years ago. Back in 2020 a 16x12 canvas was $8000, $45k for a 72x60 inch

I nearly bought a large one but went for a different artist. Regret it since to no be honest
 

Yeah it felt too expensive at the time. But, it seems to always feel too expensive in the present tense.

[LJCal]

Her last edtions were like $1000 a few years back they were even less. This isn't worth $3500. I'd pay $1500 max and I'm a fan of her work, used to own a couple of paintings of hers before she went crazy.

[Pawel]

Feb 8, 2024 20:32:29 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Her last edtions were like $1000 a few years back they were even less. This isn't worth $3500. I'd pay $1500 max and I'm a fan of her work, used to own a couple of paintings of hers before she went crazy.

Actually I need to take my hand finished one to the framers.

 

[amputeerich]

I love the works and was lucky enough to have a conversation with KB on IG about them but they’re just too expensive. Would love one of the unique ones but just cannot justify that sum of money in this market. Would be tempted by a litho but again they’re wildly overpriced. The colours are gorgeous though and her stock only seems to be rising.

[Sunny Garcia]

She's great!

Listen, the art market doesn't make much sense. Not that long ago editions for these types of artists (everyone who's not real blue chip) were a couple hundred bucks. People flipped the shit out of them for a few years, and more publishers came to the table.

Now, they all think thousands for an edition is completely reasonable. I've tried to talk to a few galleries (White Cube being one) about this actually, and they don't seem to care.

At least the Condos are less than double these 🤣🥴

[Fuzzyduck121]

Galleries like to make all the profit themselves that's literally all this is

Unfortunately greed by its very nature knows no bounds so it was inevitable they would push the margins too far the other way

That is what's now happening

Whitecube a prime example sat on a fuck load of stuff, the issue is this;

Lets say you sell an edition of 50 Julie Curtiss for a greedy horrible price and as a gallery you are trying to scalp people and you end up selling one at 10k, you have 49 left, you cannot sell a single one for much less or the guy who paid 10k is going to be very annoyed, as is the artist. Hence they bury their heads and wait for the market to turn.

I say good luck to them, they will be waiting a looooooong time

[Ads Army]

I was shocked how bad these were - complete waste of money IMO !

[drip]

There's a nice article from 2022, if anyone's "Katherine Bradford curious":

www.wmagazine.com/culture/katherine-bradford-artist-portland-museum-maine-exhibition