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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by Happy Go Lucky Chap on Jul 6, 2023 13:47:37 GMT 1, Haven’t seen any posts re the new Emin print, ‘Just Waiting’ released at Counter Editions this morning:
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Haven’t seen any posts re the new Emin print, ‘Just Waiting’ released at Counter Editions this morning: link |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by artlife11 on Jul 6, 2023 13:49:27 GMT 1, Haven’t seen any posts re the new Emin print, ‘Just Waiting’ released at Counter Editions this morning: link
Haven’t seen any posts re the new Emin print, ‘Just Waiting’ released at Counter Editions this morning: linkI got sent the link but the print was sold out almost immediately |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by Poster Bob on Jul 6, 2023 13:59:27 GMT 1, By the time I got the email with the code it was a bit over £6k. I was not interested in purchasing one, but checked because I was more interested in it to understand the market, and to see if it would sell out. I must say, I am surprised that it sold out as quickly as it did. That said, her prints are massively undervalued and anyone who bought one at a lower tier will do very well in the long run.
By the time I got the email with the code it was a bit over £6k. I was not interested in purchasing one, but checked because I was more interested in it to understand the market, and to see if it would sell out. I must say, I am surprised that it sold out as quickly as it did. That said, her prints are massively undervalued and anyone who bought one at a lower tier will do very well in the long run.
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by from mjolnir on Jul 6, 2023 14:18:54 GMT 1, I was watching and it sold out pretty much at the listing price - €7,500 - or €6k / £5k after the discount code. The auction results on the prints have been all over the place recently, but this is probably fair value although I didn't grab one because the image isn't as strong as some of the others ...
I was watching and it sold out pretty much at the listing price - €7,500 - or €6k / £5k after the discount code. The auction results on the prints have been all over the place recently, but this is probably fair value although I didn't grab one because the image isn't as strong as some of the others ...
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by witchdoctor on Jul 6, 2023 15:10:32 GMT 1, Would like to know what these started on to begin with, first tier, if anyone can help?
Would like to know what these started on to begin with, first tier, if anyone can help?
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by LJCal on Jul 6, 2023 15:22:54 GMT 1, At £4.8k was on OK buy for a hold.
At £4.8k was on OK buy for a hold.
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by artlife11 on Jul 6, 2023 15:26:12 GMT 1, By the time I got the email with the code it was a bit over £6k. I was not interested in purchasing one, but checked because I was more interested in it to understand the market, and to see if it would sell out. I must say, I am surprised that it sold out as quickly as it did. That said, her prints are massively undervalued and anyone who bought one at a lower tier will do very well in the long run.
you used to be able to buy prints like ‘About to Fly’ for less than £300, I think that was about 2017.
I like her art and everything about how she is helping other Artists with Studis in Margate. She has earned everything she has. National treasure
By the time I got the email with the code it was a bit over £6k. I was not interested in purchasing one, but checked because I was more interested in it to understand the market, and to see if it would sell out. I must say, I am surprised that it sold out as quickly as it did. That said, her prints are massively undervalued and anyone who bought one at a lower tier will do very well in the long run. Tracey Emin has been massively undervalued for ages but that is changing rapidly. you used to be able to buy prints like ‘About to Fly’ for less than £300, I think that was about 2017. I like her art and everything about how she is helping other Artists with Studis in Margate. She has earned everything she has. National treasure |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by Happy Go Lucky Chap on Jul 6, 2023 17:16:04 GMT 1, Would like to know what these started on to begin with, first tier, if anyone can help?
Would like to know what these started on to begin with, first tier, if anyone can help? £6K first tier, then £7.5K, then all gone at £9K |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by nobokov on Jul 6, 2023 17:58:40 GMT 1, Whats with the hype? There are tons of overpriced unsold prints by her on Counter Editions.
Whats with the hype? There are tons of overpriced unsold prints by her on Counter Editions.
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by Jonas B on Jul 6, 2023 18:05:23 GMT 1, Nearly all online dealers have very large stock of Emin. There seems to be loads on the market, many are better and cheaper than this release.
Nearly all online dealers have very large stock of Emin. There seems to be loads on the market, many are better and cheaper than this release.
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by its all about me on Jul 6, 2023 18:26:07 GMT 1, I'm surprised some people on here are saying her prints are massively undervalued. I was thinking the opposite. Most of it is overpriced tat. Anyone who paid 9K for one of these is a damn fool. She's slowly morphing in to a female Damien Hirst and churning out any old rubbish at extortionate prices.
I'm surprised some people on here are saying her prints are massively undervalued. I was thinking the opposite. Most of it is overpriced tat. Anyone who paid 9K for one of these is a damn fool. She's slowly morphing in to a female Damien Hirst and churning out any old rubbish at extortionate prices.
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by storm breaker on Jul 6, 2023 19:09:44 GMT 1, It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate.
Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew.
Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases.
Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying.
Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room.
It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate.
Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew.
Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases.
Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying.
Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room.
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by Horatio Nelson on Jul 6, 2023 19:54:45 GMT 1, I don’t see Tracey’s output as a (purely) commercial endeavour.
Given the twists and turns in her life including recovery from illness in recent years, her output is more a manifestation of creative energy; a relentless endeavour to leave her mark on the world and making the most of every day she is able to put her talent to use.
Preach as I might, I didn’t buy this because I have a couple of her prints of bed/reclining figures, plus a gouache plus this plus that. I regret not getting “No Surrender” a few years back.
I don’t see Tracey’s output as a (purely) commercial endeavour.
Given the twists and turns in her life including recovery from illness in recent years, her output is more a manifestation of creative energy; a relentless endeavour to leave her mark on the world and making the most of every day she is able to put her talent to use.
Preach as I might, I didn’t buy this because I have a couple of her prints of bed/reclining figures, plus a gouache plus this plus that. I regret not getting “No Surrender” a few years back.
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by blurp on Jul 6, 2023 20:46:02 GMT 1, I didn't buy because I don't have $10k and it was sold out. If anyone wants to trade one for a Cut & Run bag, some wall pieces and a wooden Peckham rock, my DMs are open. Can throw in a newspaper front page too.
I don’t see Tracey’s output as a (purely) commercial endeavour. Given the twists and turns in her life including recovery from illness in recent years, her output is more a manifestation of creative energy; a relentless endeavour to leave her mark on the world and making the most of every day she is able to put her talent to use. Preach as I might, I didn’t buy this because I have a couple of her prints of bed/reclining figures, plus a gouache plus this plus that. I regret not getting “No Surrender” a few years back.
I didn't buy because I don't have $10k and it was sold out. If anyone wants to trade one for a Cut & Run bag, some wall pieces and a wooden Peckham rock, my DMs are open. Can throw in a newspaper front page too. I don’t see Tracey’s output as a (purely) commercial endeavour. Given the twists and turns in her life including recovery from illness in recent years, her output is more a manifestation of creative energy; a relentless endeavour to leave her mark on the world and making the most of every day she is able to put her talent to use. Preach as I might, I didn’t buy this because I have a couple of her prints of bed/reclining figures, plus a gouache plus this plus that. I regret not getting “No Surrender” a few years back. |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by LJCal on Jul 6, 2023 22:46:00 GMT 1, Would like to know what these started on to begin with, first tier, if anyone can help? £6K first tier, then £7.5K, then all gone at £9K
Would like to know what these started on to begin with, first tier, if anyone can help? £6K first tier, then £7.5K, then all gone at £9K Most people would have got the discount code for 20% off, so £4,800 was first tier |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by LJCal on Jul 6, 2023 22:48:41 GMT 1, Nearly all online dealers have very large stock of Emin. There seems to be loads on the market, many are better and cheaper than this release.
Nearly all online dealers have very large stock of Emin. There seems to be loads on the market, many are better and cheaper than this release. Don't disagree, it's ok at first tier with the 20% off if you're a serius collector and taking a long term view. I also agree Emin is undervalued but you've got to get a decent print, there's so many crap ones out there. I'd say this is pretty middle of the road and certainly not worth what people were paying on 2nd and 3rd tier. |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by LJCal on Jul 6, 2023 22:51:12 GMT 1, It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate. Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew. Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases. Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying. Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room.
It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate. Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew. Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases. Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying. Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room. Yeah I mean that's pretty much it. I'd be surprised if they sold more than 50% of this edition, I think once it got to the 2nd tier it looked expensive. It also always amazes me with CE that prints that were sold out always seem to become available again. |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by Jonas B on Jul 6, 2023 23:12:32 GMT 1, It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate. Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew. Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases. Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying. Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room.
It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate. Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew. Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases. Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying. Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room. This is so spot on, exactly right. |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by blurp on Jul 7, 2023 0:09:21 GMT 1, Sir, what you are describing is a ponzi scheme
It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate. Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew. Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases. Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying. Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room. This is so spot on, exactly right.
Sir, what you are describing is a ponzi scheme It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate. Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew. Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases. Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying. Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room. This is so spot on, exactly right. |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by LJCal on Jul 7, 2023 0:15:39 GMT 1, Sir, what you are describing is a ponzi scheme This is so spot on, exactly right.
Sir, what you are describing is a ponzi scheme This is so spot on, exactly right. Haha otherwise known as the art market, think the terms are interchangeable. |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by drbf on Jul 7, 2023 3:15:54 GMT 1, Sir, what you are describing is a ponzi scheme This is so spot on, exactly right.
Sir, what you are describing is a ponzi scheme This is so spot on, exactly right. Everyone makes a few bucks except the poor final purchaser. |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by Happy Go Lucky Chap on Jul 7, 2023 10:13:11 GMT 1, It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate. Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew. Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases. Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying. Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room. Yeah I mean that's pretty much it. I'd be surprised if they sold more than 50% of this edition, I think once it got to the 2nd tier it looked expensive. It also always amazes me with CE that prints that were sold out always seem to become available again.
It's pretty clever business model and I'm surprised it's still working in the current climate. Contact your regular buyers (most probably dealers) sell to them bottom tier, which they buy to keep 'in' with Diament and crew. Offer second tier to other previous buyers who buy in the hope of being promoted to tier one for future releases. Release the rest offering the 20% members discount, which a few get suckered into buying. Quickly mark as sold out. Which it didn't but you can punt them out at art fairs over the next 12 months from the back room. Yeah I mean that's pretty much it. I'd be surprised if they sold more than 50% of this edition, I think once it got to the 2nd tier it looked expensive. It also always amazes me with CE that prints that were sold out always seem to become available again. Intrigued. Please can you name one Emin CE print that was marked as being ‘Sold Out’ that has become available again. |
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by Rsyok on Jul 7, 2023 11:02:42 GMT 1, I presume the example is the last two prints which are marked both sold out and enquire ? I cant remember what Curled up first "sold out" at but now 12K. I love CE to be honest, all the fun of the fair !
I presume the example is the last two prints which are marked both sold out and enquire ? I cant remember what Curled up first "sold out" at but now 12K. I love CE to be honest, all the fun of the fair !
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by its all about me on Jul 7, 2023 12:15:23 GMT 1, I have to admit, Counter Editions is my least favourite art producer. All their stuff is overpriced and then they do this rather silly 20% discount that everybody can get. Just reduce the retail price by 20% and have done with it. It's obviously a manipulative ploy used to try and convince people that they are getting a good deal when they are clearly not. I also object to this tiered pricing that they do. Things should have a retail price and that's it. And then things are supposedly sold out and yet there is the 'enquire' button.
They represent everything that I dislike about the art world.
I have to admit, Counter Editions is my least favourite art producer. All their stuff is overpriced and then they do this rather silly 20% discount that everybody can get. Just reduce the retail price by 20% and have done with it. It's obviously a manipulative ploy used to try and convince people that they are getting a good deal when they are clearly not. I also object to this tiered pricing that they do. Things should have a retail price and that's it. And then things are supposedly sold out and yet there is the 'enquire' button.
They represent everything that I dislike about the art world.
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Tracey Emin • Just Waiting, by crog1 on Apr 26, 2024 9:12:08 GMT 1, I have this print, still in its CE packaging, opened only once to check print and take pictures, that I would like to sell. I am looking for a quick sale and willing to let it go for £5,750 (this is less than it's first tier release price), which is an absolute steal if you're looking for an investment piece. Please get in touch if of interest. Thanks.
I have this print, still in its CE packaging, opened only once to check print and take pictures, that I would like to sell. I am looking for a quick sale and willing to let it go for £5,750 (this is less than it's first tier release price), which is an absolute steal if you're looking for an investment piece. Please get in touch if of interest. Thanks.
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