Icesay
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Icesay on Jun 18, 2021 19:15:19 GMT 1, Some people are so binary.
Some people are so binary.
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Sunny Garcia on Jun 18, 2021 19:27:55 GMT 1, IG has ruined art collecting #facts
IG has ruined art collecting #facts
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Jimini Cricket
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Jimini Cricket on Jun 18, 2021 19:32:00 GMT 1, Trial by public opinion. Me like to watch.
Trial by public opinion. Me like to watch.
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jimmyjam
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by jimmyjam on Jun 18, 2021 19:42:37 GMT 1, I was offered Javiers new print second hand - weeks - before it was even released in public.
Most of AA prints go to newbies and flippers. Their VIP list is already filled up with them - really no use at this point trying to get on that list considering their prices for prints. I don't think most major collectors need/use Instagram to show off their collections to get into a VIP list.
At this point the middle man, AA, has taken full advantage of the current booming editions market - can't blame them. I just don't get why galleries need or use them unless to hype an artist's auction market.
I was offered Javiers new print second hand - weeks - before it was even released in public.
Most of AA prints go to newbies and flippers. Their VIP list is already filled up with them - really no use at this point trying to get on that list considering their prices for prints. I don't think most major collectors need/use Instagram to show off their collections to get into a VIP list.
At this point the middle man, AA, has taken full advantage of the current booming editions market - can't blame them. I just don't get why galleries need or use them unless to hype an artist's auction market.
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Icesay
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Icesay on Jun 18, 2021 20:38:38 GMT 1, It's all about reach. Trying to establish in an already crowded marketplace one has to have a usp. Rise and fall...singing when you're winning etc etc. Basic principles. All anyone wants is to gain a foothold. To maintain is not an easy thing to accomplish and some fall by the way side. Others remain, diversify and profligate.
It's all about reach. Trying to establish in an already crowded marketplace one has to have a usp. Rise and fall...singing when you're winning etc etc. Basic principles. All anyone wants is to gain a foothold. To maintain is not an easy thing to accomplish and some fall by the way side. Others remain, diversify and profligate.
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by iforgot my username on Jun 18, 2021 21:53:12 GMT 1, IG has ruined art collecting #facts the sense of entitlement on this board.....
#FUCKFACTS
IG has ruined art collecting #facts the sense of entitlement on this board..... #FUCKFACTS
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docean
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by docean on Jun 18, 2021 22:59:14 GMT 1, I have known Jeremiah for many years, he taught me a lot about art when I first began collecting and we still chat art regularly. He has an amazing collection that I think anyone would be envious of.
Avant has a business to run and part of that business includes maintaining reputations for themselves and the artists they work with. If they want to prevent reselling they are perfectly within their rights to hold back COAs from various collectors. If they don't feel a risk in sending it to other collectors, that's also their choice. Jeremiah is definitely not a risk for flipping. (I've been trying to buy certain pieces from him for years with no success)
To anyone saying "well I'm a regular buyer too!" or "my friend is a VIP" blah blah, do you actually have a relationship with Christian & Curtis? Can you honestly say that they know you well enough to feel as if you're not a risk? Instead of spreading misinformed hate online, move on to the next release and work on building relationships in the community... for better or worse that's what a lot of art buying boils down to these days.
Criticizing him for working at Gall Art doesn't really make a lot of sense to me...he's introduced street/urban/contemporary art to a lot of their more traditional art buying clients and has helped a lot of artists along the way. I know of quite a few artists who owe a lot of their success to his support.
I have known Jeremiah for many years, he taught me a lot about art when I first began collecting and we still chat art regularly. He has an amazing collection that I think anyone would be envious of.
Avant has a business to run and part of that business includes maintaining reputations for themselves and the artists they work with. If they want to prevent reselling they are perfectly within their rights to hold back COAs from various collectors. If they don't feel a risk in sending it to other collectors, that's also their choice. Jeremiah is definitely not a risk for flipping. (I've been trying to buy certain pieces from him for years with no success)
To anyone saying "well I'm a regular buyer too!" or "my friend is a VIP" blah blah, do you actually have a relationship with Christian & Curtis? Can you honestly say that they know you well enough to feel as if you're not a risk? Instead of spreading misinformed hate online, move on to the next release and work on building relationships in the community... for better or worse that's what a lot of art buying boils down to these days.
Criticizing him for working at Gall Art doesn't really make a lot of sense to me...he's introduced street/urban/contemporary art to a lot of their more traditional art buying clients and has helped a lot of artists along the way. I know of quite a few artists who owe a lot of their success to his support.
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Jimini Cricket
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Jimini Cricket on Jun 18, 2021 23:24:57 GMT 1, I have known Jeremiah for many years, he taught me a lot about art when I first began collecting and we still chat art regularly. He has an amazing collection that I think anyone would be envious of. Avant has a business to run and part of that business includes maintaining reputations for themselves and the artists they work with. If they want to prevent reselling they are perfectly within their rights to hold back COAs from various collectors. If they don't feel a risk in sending it to other collectors, that's also their choice. Jeremiah is definitely not a risk for flipping. (I've been trying to buy certain pieces from him for years with no success) To anyone saying "well I'm a regular buyer too!" or "my friend is a VIP" blah blah, do you actually have a relationship with Christian & Curtis? Can you honestly say that they know you well enough to feel as if you're not a risk? Instead of spreading misinformed hate online, move on to the next release and work on building relationships in the community... for better or worse that's what a lot of art buying boils down to these days. Criticizing him for working at Gall Art doesn't really make a lot of sense to me...he's introduced street/urban/contemporary art to a lot of their more traditional art buying clients and has helped a lot of artists along the way. I know of quite a few artists who owe a lot of their success to his support.
Hello Jeremiah's alt account.👋🏿
I have known Jeremiah for many years, he taught me a lot about art when I first began collecting and we still chat art regularly. He has an amazing collection that I think anyone would be envious of. Avant has a business to run and part of that business includes maintaining reputations for themselves and the artists they work with. If they want to prevent reselling they are perfectly within their rights to hold back COAs from various collectors. If they don't feel a risk in sending it to other collectors, that's also their choice. Jeremiah is definitely not a risk for flipping. (I've been trying to buy certain pieces from him for years with no success) To anyone saying "well I'm a regular buyer too!" or "my friend is a VIP" blah blah, do you actually have a relationship with Christian & Curtis? Can you honestly say that they know you well enough to feel as if you're not a risk? Instead of spreading misinformed hate online, move on to the next release and work on building relationships in the community... for better or worse that's what a lot of art buying boils down to these days. Criticizing him for working at Gall Art doesn't really make a lot of sense to me...he's introduced street/urban/contemporary art to a lot of their more traditional art buying clients and has helped a lot of artists along the way. I know of quite a few artists who owe a lot of their success to his support. Hello Jeremiah's alt account.👋🏿
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Richy Rich
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Richy Rich on Jun 18, 2021 23:25:40 GMT 1, If you replace the word ‘art’ with ‘investment’ in this thread it reads much more sensibly.
If you replace the word ‘art’ with ‘investment’ in this thread it reads much more sensibly.
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docean
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by docean on Jun 18, 2021 23:31:47 GMT 1, I have known Jeremiah for many years, he taught me a lot about art when I first began collecting and we still chat art regularly. He has an amazing collection that I think anyone would be envious of. Avant has a business to run and part of that business includes maintaining reputations for themselves and the artists they work with. If they want to prevent reselling they are perfectly within their rights to hold back COAs from various collectors. If they don't feel a risk in sending it to other collectors, that's also their choice. Jeremiah is definitely not a risk for flipping. (I've been trying to buy certain pieces from him for years with no success) To anyone saying "well I'm a regular buyer too!" or "my friend is a VIP" blah blah, do you actually have a relationship with Christian & Curtis? Can you honestly say that they know you well enough to feel as if you're not a risk? Instead of spreading misinformed hate online, move on to the next release and work on building relationships in the community... for better or worse that's what a lot of art buying boils down to these days. Criticizing him for working at Gall Art doesn't really make a lot of sense to me...he's introduced street/urban/contemporary art to a lot of their more traditional art buying clients and has helped a lot of artists along the way. I know of quite a few artists who owe a lot of their success to his support. Hello Jeremiah's alt account.👋🏿
There’s numerous people on this forum who know who I am, that accusation looks a little foolish.
I have known Jeremiah for many years, he taught me a lot about art when I first began collecting and we still chat art regularly. He has an amazing collection that I think anyone would be envious of. Avant has a business to run and part of that business includes maintaining reputations for themselves and the artists they work with. If they want to prevent reselling they are perfectly within their rights to hold back COAs from various collectors. If they don't feel a risk in sending it to other collectors, that's also their choice. Jeremiah is definitely not a risk for flipping. (I've been trying to buy certain pieces from him for years with no success) To anyone saying "well I'm a regular buyer too!" or "my friend is a VIP" blah blah, do you actually have a relationship with Christian & Curtis? Can you honestly say that they know you well enough to feel as if you're not a risk? Instead of spreading misinformed hate online, move on to the next release and work on building relationships in the community... for better or worse that's what a lot of art buying boils down to these days. Criticizing him for working at Gall Art doesn't really make a lot of sense to me...he's introduced street/urban/contemporary art to a lot of their more traditional art buying clients and has helped a lot of artists along the way. I know of quite a few artists who owe a lot of their success to his support. Hello Jeremiah's alt account.👋🏿 There’s numerous people on this forum who know who I am, that accusation looks a little foolish.
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Jimini Cricket
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Jimini Cricket on Jun 18, 2021 23:36:17 GMT 1, Hello Jeremiah's alt account.👋🏿 There’s numerous people on this forum who know who I am, that accusation looks a little foolish.
Where are they now?
Hello Jeremiah's alt account.👋🏿 There’s numerous people on this forum who know who I am, that accusation looks a little foolish. Where are they now?
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d.r. perseus
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by d.r. perseus on Jun 18, 2021 23:36:31 GMT 1, If you replace the word ‘art’ with ‘investment’ in this thread it reads much more sensibly.
Correct. Salty
If you replace the word ‘art’ with ‘investment’ in this thread it reads much more sensibly. Correct. Salty
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Jimini Cricket
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Jimini Cricket on Jun 18, 2021 23:55:38 GMT 1, There’s numerous people on this forum who know who I am, that accusation looks a little foolish. Where are they now?
Found them. Mike Hunt, Mike Oxlong, Hugh Janus, and Amanda Hugankiss all say hello.
There’s numerous people on this forum who know who I am, that accusation looks a little foolish. Where are they now? Found them. Mike Hunt, Mike Oxlong, Hugh Janus, and Amanda Hugankiss all say hello.
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Jimini Cricket
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Jimini Cricket on Jun 18, 2021 23:58:22 GMT 1, If everyone upset by prints, start a revolution with the walk ins at studio Jonas Wood that get to buy. I may or may not be part of this group. 😘
If everyone upset by prints, start a revolution with the walk ins at studio Jonas Wood that get to buy. I may or may not be part of this group. 😘
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Jimini Cricket
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Jimini Cricket on Jun 19, 2021 0:09:17 GMT 1, Guess he was really good at the phone interview to get all three prints AND the COAs. Probably can pull up a job interview consultancy as well.
Obviously is partner material. I do not miss my days as a slide monkey.
Guess he was really good at the phone interview to get all three prints AND the COAs. Probably can pull up a job interview consultancy as well. Obviously is partner material. I do not miss my days as a slide monkey.
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mikeT
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by mikeT on Jun 19, 2021 0:48:42 GMT 1, It's just art (money). Yawn.
It's just art (money). Yawn.
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Jimini Cricket
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Jimini Cricket on Jun 19, 2021 5:03:02 GMT 1, Can someone explain to me why someone should pay $60k for. “I can wait without waiting”? Artistically speaking… Can you please explain a comparison between that drawing/painting and a painting between, I don’t know, a Roberta Coni’s painting that goes for less than half of that? Please enlighten me Thank you.
Calleja's characters are little heroes who just overcame something painful and are about to smile again after crying.
Now pay up.
Can someone explain to me why someone should pay $60k for. “I can wait without waiting”? Artistically speaking… Can you please explain a comparison between that drawing/painting and a painting between, I don’t know, a Roberta Coni’s painting that goes for less than half of that? Please enlighten me Thank you. Calleja's characters are little heroes who just overcame something painful and are about to smile again after crying. Now pay up.
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junkbondjim
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by junkbondjim on Jun 19, 2021 7:04:44 GMT 1, ATHENA
ATHENA
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Winks
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Winks on Jun 19, 2021 13:00:41 GMT 1, Surprised we haven’t had any AA polished statement yet.
Surprised we haven’t had any AA polished statement yet.
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Jonas B
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Jonas B on Jun 19, 2021 13:06:20 GMT 1,
Was it Athena that did the tennis player with no knickers on? Probably wouldn’t been seen as acceptable now by the woke brigade.
Was it Athena that did the tennis player with no knickers on? Probably wouldn’t been seen as acceptable now by the woke brigade.
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Reader
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Reader on Jun 19, 2021 13:20:17 GMT 1, Was it Athena that did the tennis player with no knickers on? Probably wouldn’t been seen as acceptable now by the woke brigade. fucking snowflake woke brigade, they've ruined everything, can't even be openly racist or homophobic these days let alone sexist or misogynistic.
Was it Athena that did the tennis player with no knickers on? Probably wouldn’t been seen as acceptable now by the woke brigade. fucking snowflake woke brigade, they've ruined everything, can't even be openly racist or homophobic these days let alone sexist or misogynistic.
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JockoLad
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by JockoLad on Jun 19, 2021 13:30:33 GMT 1, Was it Athena that did the tennis player with no knickers on? Probably wouldn’t been seen as acceptable now by the woke brigade. fucking snowflake woke brigade, they've ruined everything, can't even be openly racist or homophobic these days let alone sexist or misogynistic.
You ok, hun?
Was it Athena that did the tennis player with no knickers on? Probably wouldn’t been seen as acceptable now by the woke brigade. fucking snowflake woke brigade, they've ruined everything, can't even be openly racist or homophobic these days let alone sexist or misogynistic. You ok, hun?
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irukandji
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by irukandji on Jun 19, 2021 13:42:31 GMT 1, This thread 😂
This thread 😂
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Poster Bob
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Poster Bob on Jun 19, 2021 14:37:48 GMT 1, He's shook. Reader is the wokest of the woke. You can't say anything without being libelled.
fucking snowflake woke brigade, they've ruined everything, can't even be openly racist or homophobic these days let alone sexist or misogynistic. You ok, hun?
He's shook. Reader is the wokest of the woke. You can't say anything without being libelled. fucking snowflake woke brigade, they've ruined everything, can't even be openly racist or homophobic these days let alone sexist or misogynistic. You ok, hun?
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Reader
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Reader on Jun 19, 2021 14:47:46 GMT 1, He's shook. Reader is the wokest of the woke. You can't say anything without being libelled. Haha, will you look at that, three triggered alt-right snowflakes on one thread crying cos they can't be openly racist, sexist or homophobic anymore. The Alf Garnett's of urban art.
He's shook. Reader is the wokest of the woke. You can't say anything without being libelled. Haha, will you look at that, three triggered alt-right snowflakes on one thread crying cos they can't be openly racist, sexist or homophobic anymore. The Alf Garnett's of urban art.
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Poster Bob
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Poster Bob on Jun 19, 2021 14:54:28 GMT 1, That's the stuff. Still suffering from cognitive distortions and constantly catastrophizing.
He's shook. Reader is the wokest of the woke. You can't say anything without being libelled. Haha, will you look at that, three triggered alt-right snowflakes on one thread crying cos they can't be openly racist, sexist or homophobic anymore. The Alf Garnett's of urban art.
That's the stuff. Still suffering from cognitive distortions and constantly catastrophizing. He's shook. Reader is the wokest of the woke. You can't say anything without being libelled. Haha, will you look at that, three triggered alt-right snowflakes on one thread crying cos they can't be openly racist, sexist or homophobic anymore. The Alf Garnett's of urban art.
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binky
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by binky on Jun 19, 2021 15:16:13 GMT 1, For those that missed out, well done. You dont want to be holding this particular investment parcel when the music stops. For those who buy this because you actually like the art - I don’t think you even exist. It’s quite stunningly vapid. How easily you are manipulated. This will be in the Mind charity shop in a couple of decades, whilst others refuse to confront the reality of shite as as they have thousands invested in it. Magic beans anyone ?
For those that missed out, well done. You dont want to be holding this particular investment parcel when the music stops. For those who buy this because you actually like the art - I don’t think you even exist. It’s quite stunningly vapid. How easily you are manipulated. This will be in the Mind charity shop in a couple of decades, whilst others refuse to confront the reality of shite as as they have thousands invested in it. Magic beans anyone ?
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blurp
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by blurp on Jun 19, 2021 15:51:39 GMT 1, It's an interesting point. Look back to the first street art bubble (2005-11?) and the silly prices people paid for things and what they're worth now.
This thread suggests we're back in that cycle. Rinse. Repeat.
For those that missed out, well done. You dont want to be holding this particular investment parcel when the music stops. For those who buy this because you actually like the art - I don’t think you even exist. It’s quite stunningly vapid. How easily you are manipulated. This will be in the Mind charity shop in a couple of decades, whilst others refuse to confront the reality of shite as as they have thousands invested in it. Magic beans anyone ?
It's an interesting point. Look back to the first street art bubble (2005-11?) and the silly prices people paid for things and what they're worth now. This thread suggests we're back in that cycle. Rinse. Repeat. For those that missed out, well done. You dont want to be holding this particular investment parcel when the music stops. For those who buy this because you actually like the art - I don’t think you even exist. It’s quite stunningly vapid. How easily you are manipulated. This will be in the Mind charity shop in a couple of decades, whilst others refuse to confront the reality of shite as as they have thousands invested in it. Magic beans anyone ?
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Reader
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Reader on Jun 19, 2021 17:45:09 GMT 1, That's the stuff. Still suffering from cognitive distortions and constantly catastrophizing. Haha, will you look at that, three triggered alt-right snowflakes on one thread crying cos they can't be openly racist, sexist or homophobic anymore. The Alf Garnett's of urban art. haha, just having a bit of fun bobby, you anti-woke chaps do get easily triggered these days. :-)
That's the stuff. Still suffering from cognitive distortions and constantly catastrophizing. Haha, will you look at that, three triggered alt-right snowflakes on one thread crying cos they can't be openly racist, sexist or homophobic anymore. The Alf Garnett's of urban art. haha, just having a bit of fun bobby, you anti-woke chaps do get easily triggered these days. :-)
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Winks
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More proof that Avant Arte is full of sh*t. , by Winks on Jun 19, 2021 18:25:43 GMT 1, Surprised we haven’t had any AA polished statement yet. Why? All I've seen on this thread is mindless rants.
Because they always do. Is it a problem to you that I’m surprised?
Surprised we haven’t had any AA polished statement yet. Why? All I've seen on this thread is mindless rants. Because they always do. Is it a problem to you that I’m surprised?
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