[rinz]

This one will fit perfectly well as a diptych with the Damien Hirst underpants!

[Terry Fuckwitt]

£55.5k? Is that the reduced rate for a quick sale? 😳

[Deleted]

55K.....

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Jan 20, 2021 14:15:41 GMT 1 darkarts said:

Jan 20, 2021 13:58:15 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

£55.5k? Is that the reduced rate for a quick sale? 😳

I believe so, as I mentioned there are a good amount of prints that have sold for significantly more at auction, which in that case would be a print where there are many copies of a painting produced by an assistant. This on the other hand is directly from the artist and arguably a lot rarer / personal / special I believe. Again, I am welcoming nearest best offers... It's obviously a discussion where I hope a deal can be made where both myself and the collector feel comfortable with the price. There's nothing stopping this also being a great investment potentially if we had a future predicting crystal ball but I do appreciate it's a decent chunk of change. It's also not your everyday item I believe and the chance to own is rare.

Can you compare a paint splattered tshirt to a piece of art though?
I'll stop there as it's your sales thread and it's up to you what you think it's worth. GLWS

[Charlie Bronson]

Hirst gave away a shirt a year or so ago on IG. He wore it while painting his Cherry Blossoms series.

[LJCal]

What tosh. This is worth a few thousand at best, you can buy original works on paper by Hirst for less than £20k which will are obviously far more desirable than a signed t-shirt.

[nobokov]

Imagine how much it would be worth if it had Damien's pit stains too. Since the shirt was free, you'd imagine it'd be worth around that much as well?

Congrats btw on the feature on Hypebeast and Artnet.

[gimmeabreak]

the price is unreasonable.

this thread is greed under a thin veil of philosophical waxing about 'what is art' and other shite.

put it on ebay at no reserve. or keep posting about it with new 'lower prices for quick sale' for the next 4-5 years.

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Jan 20, 2021 14:46:58 GMT 1 darkarts said:

Jan 20, 2021 14:25:01 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Can you compare a paint splattered tshirt to a piece of art though?
I'll stop there as it's your sales thread and it's up to you what you think it's worth. GLWS

Your question is a good one, I appreciate it and should be discussed.

Art makes us ask questions, such as is it art?

For example your question makes me ask myself is it much different to Jackson Pollock's way of working?

Maybe the difference is intentionality when the artist creates?

Damiens intention to sign and frame this being who he is, is what leads me to draw this comparison - but like life though, art is subjective and the way we see things is obviously within the eye of the beholder. I'm not categorically stating I understand Damiens exact thought process in knowing if he would differentiate this from any of his other work but when I listen to him and read his interviews such as in his and Gordon Burns "on the way to work" book which I'd recommend if you have never checked that out - I believe Damien is very conceptually minded as an artist in everything he puts out there.

For example another question I have asked myself is, what was the artists thought process that lead him to wear the eBay logo? Is this to do with auctions and selling? It was a custom printed t-shirt, not official eBay merch as far as I can tell. But these are all examples of questions it could raise. It would be nice for Damien himself to comment on it to answer your question conclusively but for now I can only try to answer these questions to the best of my abilities myself or leave it for collectors to see what they think.

Many thanks for your best wishes with the sale and feel free to ask or leave any other comments as I appreciate your thoughts and questions.

I have a signed copy of 'On the way to work' somewhere, but to be honest I've never read it.
Hirst gave away seven paint splattered worn tshirts in the competition, so although it's unique, there are six more similar tshirts out there.
As it stands, I would just put this into the 'memorabilia' category. If however Hirst suspended the tshirt into a tank of formaldehyde, it would probably add a few zero's to the value😉
I see Hypebeast gave you a nice advert last year, so you must have received some top offers after that was posted.
www.google.com/amp/s/hypebeast.com/2020/10/damien-hirst-ebay-t-shirt-for-sale-info%3famp=1

[charliec2701]

For a £55k ask I must say that framing job is taking the mick !!! It’s in a £10 frame ffs !! As for the photos there’s not one of Hirst actually wearing it ??

I’d also keep the small Fruitful for yourself as someone who’s spending £55k on a tee shirt doesn’t really need an unsellable £400 work of art ??

Sorry but this tee shirt pricing is sheer lunacy in my limited opinion....

However GLWTS

[irl1]

This thread and the ebay listing is doing more damage than good for the value. While it's getting you a bit of press it won't help the value.

Had you tried any of the big auction houses before you listed it on ebay?

If so what did they say?

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Jan 20, 2021 15:38:07 GMT 1 darkarts said:

Jan 20, 2021 15:20:06 GMT 1 LJCal said:

What tosh. This is worth a few thousand at best, you can buy original works on paper by Hirst for less than £20k which will are obviously far more desirable than a signed t-shirt.

Ok, it's fair enough that this is your opinion, but would a small original work on paper done in pen or pencil for example hold as much historical value as the personally owned item of the artist? You'd probably say no obviously but the original works on paper by Hirst are normally quick small sketches I believe? Far more desirable is also subjective, maybe an art museum would find it more desirable as a symbol of how the artist lived and worked? Do you honestly believe it's worth less than one of the HENI prints at cost price which is just printed from a printing machine? In other words you could just say it's not worth anything and you'd have to pay me to receive it, but that's the case with a lot of art, it's how you choose to perceive it. It doesn't change the fact that it could be worth a lot more than you think but I appreciate your input.

Sadly, it is certainly worth less than a HENI edition. It's an interesting bit of ephemera that is best paired with the Hirst boxer shorts that are also currently for sale - it would make a great fancy dress costume for an LSE graduate that's just started on the foreign exchange desk at Deutsch bank. 

I really can't see this ending up in a museum. 

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Jan 20, 2021 15:55:17 GMT 1 darkarts said:

Jan 20, 2021 15:40:31 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

I have a signed copy of 'On the way to work' somewhere, but to be honest I've never read it.
Hirst gave away seven paint splattered worn tshirts in the competition, so although it's unique, there are six more similar tshirts out there.
As it stands, I would just put this into the 'memorabilia' category. If however Hirst suspended the tshirt into a tank of formaldehyde, it would probably add a few zero's to the value😉
I see Hypebeast gave you a nice advert last year, so you must have received some top offers after that was posted.
www.google.com/amp/s/hypebeast.com/2020/10/damien-hirst-ebay-t-shirt-for-sale-info%3famp=1

I really enjoyed the book, I've read it all. It gives a great insight into the artists way of thinking. I have received some significant offers which I have considered and interest from some top 200 collectors, I set my aims very high and I dropped the price this month. I may accept some of my previously made offers which were not too far away from my current asking price. I'm still in conversation with a number of collectors so I'm confident this will go in not too much time, it's just reaching a fair price that everyone is happy with which I'm aiming to achieve. I believe many people can overlook great value at the time something is available I believe. Also the Formaldehyde point is true! 

To be honest, I would go back to those intital offers near your asking price and try and get a deal done. There's nothing to say Hirst won't give away another batch of tshirts, brushes or even that lovely paint splattered chaise longue.
It would be great to know what you do sell it for in the end, so please let us know.

[LJCal]

Jan 20, 2021 15:38:07 GMT 1 darkarts said:

Jan 20, 2021 15:20:06 GMT 1 LJCal said:

What tosh. This is worth a few thousand at best, you can buy original works on paper by Hirst for less than £20k which will are obviously far more desirable than a signed t-shirt.

Ok, it's fair enough that this is your opinion, but would a small original work on paper done in pen or pencil for example hold as much historical value as the personally owned item of the artist? You'd probably say no obviously but the original works on paper by Hirst are normally quick small sketches I believe? Far more desirable is also subjective, maybe an art museum would find it more desirable as a symbol of how the artist lived and worked? Do you honestly believe it's worth less than one of the HENI prints at cost price which is just printed from a printing machine? In other words you could just say it's not worth anything and you'd have to pay me to receive it, but that's the case with a lot of art, it's how you choose to perceive it. It doesn't change the fact that it could be worth a lot more than you think but I appreciate your input.

No they are spot and spin paintings, know which I would prefer:
onlineonly.christies.com/s/first-open-post-war-contemporary-art-online/damien-hirst-b-1965-48/102283
onlineonly.christies.com/s/first-open-post-war-contemporary-art-online/damien-hirst-b-1965-47/102284