[nobokov]

For me I've scratched V1 Gallery and The Journal Gallery/Tennis Elbow off my list. What about you?

[Express Post]

Is this based on the artists on offer, or gallery practices?

Mar 15, 2019 6:38:04 GMT 1 nobokov said:

For me I've scratched V1 Gallery and The Journal Gallery/Tennis Elbow off my list. What about you?

[nobokov]

Mar 15, 2019 6:41:50 GMT 1 Express Post said:

Is this based on the artists on offer, or gallery practices?

Mar 15, 2019 6:38:04 GMT 1 nobokov said:

For me I've scratched V1 Gallery and The Journal Gallery/Tennis Elbow off my list. What about you?

Gallery practices mainly. Lack of responsiveness and general skivvyness.

[19818914]

Go ahead you know you want to say The Hole.

[purpleandred]

Allouche. Never again.

[19818914]

Mar 15, 2019 7:33:58 GMT 1 purpleandred said:

Allouche. Never again.

Oh no what happened??

[nobokov]

Instantly I just thought A-hole and a douche.

[Johnny Sarcasm]

Railings Gallery in London.

[calnew]

Thinkspace Gallery* rudely stating they can’t ship two prints together, charging me two separate shipping invoices then proceeding to infact ship both prints together. Also charging X4 of the actual shipping price.
Little things like this speak volumes about a gallery. I have avoided purchasing originals from them now and go to the artist direct.

[Guy Denning]

Is this from the buying public or artists' perspective?
;-)

[Carl Cashman]

Mar 15, 2019 10:00:43 GMT 1 calnew said:

Thinkspace Gallery* rudely stating they can’t ship two prints together, charging me two separate shipping invoices then proceeding to infact ship both prints together. Also charging X4 of the actual shipping price.
Little things like this speak volumes about a gallery. I have avoided purchasing originals from them now and go to the artist direct.

Doesn't sound normal, Andrew and team Thinkspace are some of the nicest guys out there.

[christiangul]

Nelly Duff.
Bad practice and blantant lying to me about pieces origin and prices.

[DOH]

Mar 15, 2019 9:57:04 GMT 1 Johnny Sarcasm said:

Railings Gallery in London.

Any particular reason?

[Poster Bob]

That garbage gallery owned by James DeFranco that says all prints must ship flat. 🤦

[calnew]

Mar 15, 2019 10:48:27 GMT 1 Carl Cashman said:

Mar 15, 2019 10:00:43 GMT 1 calnew said:

Thinkspace Gallery* rudely stating they can’t ship two prints together, charging me two separate shipping invoices then proceeding to infact ship both prints together. Also charging X4 of the actual shipping price.
Little things like this speak volumes about a gallery. I have avoided purchasing originals from them now and go to the artist direct.

Doesn't sound normal, Andrew and team Thinkspace are some of the nicest guys out there.

That’s the whole point of the thread. To share our not so normal* experiences purchasing.

[longshanks]

I know this is common practice, but Hashimoto (formally Spoke) have wound me up on first interaction. Was waiting for a show for many months, had been speaking to them (and artist) on the regular, very keen for pre-sale. Got the email, replied instantly with my choice and request for purchase. They waited 3 days, then I got the 'denied' email. Purchasing an original for me is a big deal - and takes months (maybe years) of saving. So yeh, I'm pretty bitter at the moment.

This apparently is their method for allocating pieces:

spoke-art.com/pages/collector-preview-faq

There's no way they have any of that info on me / my collection, so they just sold it to a friend / local. Very frustrating as there comes a point when an artist is out of my reach financially (normally pretty quickly) and with a baby on the way I fear this point may have come already.

Another one to add to the 'should be in the collection' list

[Winter]

Should these comments not go on Trip Advisor?

[Carl Cashman]

Mar 15, 2019 11:12:46 GMT 1 calnew said:

Mar 15, 2019 10:48:27 GMT 1 Carl Cashman said:

Doesn't sound normal, Andrew and team Thinkspace are some of the nicest guys out there.

That’s the whole point of the thread. To share our not so normal* experiences purchasing.

Nah the thread is 'who to avoid', not 'who didn't give you as good service as normal'

[Dive Jedi]

Mar 15, 2019 12:22:31 GMT 1 Carl Cashman said:

Mar 15, 2019 11:12:46 GMT 1 calnew said:

That’s the whole point of the thread. To share our not so normal* experiences purchasing.

Nah the thread is 'who to avoid', not 'who didn't give you as good service as normal'

I have no experience with them, nor do I know them.

But based on HIS experience I can imagine he would advice to avoid them.
Which was the topic here.

If you have a good relation with them and want to help them here, you might want to reach out
to them, so they can amend things here. Rather then start a discussion with Calnew…..

[Carl Cashman]

Mar 15, 2019 12:31:09 GMT 1 Dive Jedi said:

Mar 15, 2019 12:22:31 GMT 1 Carl Cashman said:

Nah the thread is 'who to avoid', not 'who didn't give you as good service as normal'

I have no experience with them, nor do I know them.

But based on HIS experience I can imagine he would advice to avoid them.
Which was the topic here.

If you have a good relation with them and want to help them here, you might want to reach out
to them, so they can amend things here. Rather then start a discussion with Calnew…..

Yeah 100%, just a huge difference between a bad experience and a established that should be avoided imo.

If they msg me info I'm happy to pass it on x

[Deleted]

Mar 15, 2019 9:57:04 GMT 1 Johnny Sarcasm said:

Railings Gallery in London.

Dont know about the gallery side, but i would avoid using them for framing (if they still do it)

[Happy Shopper]

I wouldn't exactly avoid Stolen Space, but asking any serious question about the art seems to be a waste of time these days.
When you know they're trying to bullshit you, it's a bit frustrating.

[Babyford]

Mar 15, 2019 16:52:22 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

I wouldn't exactly avoid Stolen Space, but asking any serious question about the art seems to be a waste of time these days.
When you know they're trying to bullshit you, it's a bit frustrating.

I have always found the staff at Stolen space very good. Very helpful, polite and friendly.

[Happy Shopper]

Mar 15, 2019 16:57:29 GMT 1 Babyford said:

Mar 15, 2019 16:52:22 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

I wouldn't exactly avoid Stolen Space, but asking any serious question about the art seems to be a waste of time these days.
When you know they're trying to bullshit you, it's a bit frustrating.

I have always found the staff at Stolen space very good. Very helpful, polite and friendly.

Could have been a one off, but it's been a while since I've been there and the staff seem to have changed a bit.
No Beth, etc.
Art's still good though.

[treweman]

Mar 15, 2019 10:48:27 GMT 1 Carl Cashman said:

Mar 15, 2019 10:00:43 GMT 1 calnew said:

Thinkspace Gallery* rudely stating they can’t ship two prints together, charging me two separate shipping invoices then proceeding to infact ship both prints together. Also charging X4 of the actual shipping price.
Little things like this speak volumes about a gallery. I have avoided purchasing originals from them now and go to the artist direct.

Doesn't sound normal, Andrew and team Thinkspace are some of the nicest guys out there.

I understand why Calnew might be unhappy with Thinkspace. But having bought many original pieces from them over the years, and having had many non-sale conversations with Andrew and staff about art and artists, I would recommend them without reservation. I agree with Carl on this one.

[nobokov]

Mar 15, 2019 10:48:27 GMT 1 Carl Cashman said:

Mar 15, 2019 10:00:43 GMT 1 calnew said:

Thinkspace Gallery* rudely stating they can’t ship two prints together, charging me two separate shipping invoices then proceeding to infact ship both prints together. Also charging X4 of the actual shipping price.
Little things like this speak volumes about a gallery. I have avoided purchasing originals from them now and go to the artist direct.

Doesn't sound normal, Andrew and team Thinkspace are some of the nicest guys out there.

Yeah, I've liked thinkspace. From my experience, they give a fair chance for all, even newcomers. I like that they see potential in new customers rather than other galleries or places that just cater to their previous customers or ultrarich.

[Johnny Sarcasm]

Mar 15, 2019 11:00:24 GMT 1 DOH said:

Mar 15, 2019 9:57:04 GMT 1 Johnny Sarcasm said:

Railings Gallery in London.

Any particular reason?

Yes, damaged a painting of mine and refused to take responsibility for it. They were also my framers of choice for many years as I naively believed that given their prices, location and years in the business that they woukd do a top quality job. It was only when I started to sell pieces they’d framed that I realised they used a lot of non-reversible tape. Again, they took no responsibility. F’ing shysters.

[nobokov]

Mar 15, 2019 11:53:15 GMT 1 Winter said:

Should these comments not go on Trip Advisor?

If only there was a TripAdvisor for galleries. Because everyone is so afraid of missing the next buying opportunity or getting blacklisted, everyone has to keep up the facade of loving everything a gallery does, not matter how poor the treatment. These days i don't think we need to stand for that, especially when we're the ones who are spending our hard earned money.

[Guy Denning]

Mar 15, 2019 18:03:46 GMT 1 nobokov said:

Mar 15, 2019 11:53:15 GMT 1 Winter said:

Should these comments not go on Trip Advisor?

If only there was a TripAdvisor for galleries. Because everyone is so afraid of missing the next buying opportunity or getting blacklisted, everyone has to keep up the facade of loving everything a gallery does, not matter how poor the treatment. These days i don't think we need to stand for that, especially when we're the ones who are spending our hard earned money.

I couldn't disagree more. Well I could, but I won't. Dog biting hand that feeds it and all...
But there was the gallery that asked me to give them a 'little sketch' that they could pass on as a gift to a 'good collector'... a collector who'd never bought any of my work...
The gallery that never showed my work because it was too dark and then complained it never sold...
The gallery that posted a framed drawing that was trashed by the postal service and then asked me to replace the drawing free of charge because the gallery wasn't insured...
The gallery that asked me to make work like another artist...
The gallery that lost all interest in me after discovering that this Bristol based artist who painted on the streets in the 80s didn't have BANKSY on speed dial...
The gallerist starting new flash gallery in big city with daddy's money, planning and booking opening show with me and changing their mind a month beforehand to open a fashion boutique instead...
And the gallery that disappeared taking mine and other artists' work (and monies owed), never to be seen again...
Oh, class one this... the gallery that thought 50% commission wasn't nearly enough for them... story here...

[Lroy]

Oh what a story ! Guy Denning !