[Mrs Mouse]

I have an unsigned Silver Flag for sale.  I bought it on the release day (after queuing up for hours!) so I have the original purchase receipt for £100.  When I took it out of the tube it was badly scratched so I returned it and was sent a replacement, which was registered in my name by Dora at POW. I have a copy of our email correspondence.

I'm going to apply for a COA but I know this could take a long time.

Could anyone give me some advice of what it would be worth with and without the COA? I could really do with selling it now, but don't want to be thousands of pounds out of pocket without the COA.

It has never been framed and has no damage, stored flat in a Mylar folder. I'll put some photos up later when I get a chance. 

Thanks for your help. 

Mrs Mouse

[Deleted]

Jan 25, 2018 11:52:22 GMT 1 Mrs Mouse said:

I have an unsigned Silver Flag for sale.  I bought it on the release day (after queuing up for hours!) so I have the original purchase receipt for £100.  When I took it out of the tube it was badly scratched so I returned it and was sent a replacement, which was registered in my name by Dora at POW. I have a copy of our email correspondence.

I'm going to apply for a COA but I know this could take a long time.

Could anyone give me some advice of what it would be worth with and without the COA? I could really do with selling it now, but don't want to be thousands of pounds out of pocket without the COA.

It has never been framed and has no damage, stored flat in a Mylar folder. I'll put some photos up later when I get a chance. 

Thanks for your help. 

Mrs Mouse

Selling it without a COA will achieve significantly more than the £100 you paid for it so you will never be out of pocket nomatter what you sell it for.

That said, if you want to maximise the return on your investment then, irrespective of sale price achieved, my guess is that you will make at least £1k (probably more) if you sell it with a COA as opposed to without even with your solid provenance.

You will get more interested parties if you have a COA which is likely to drive the price up; combine that with the probable increase in value that will occur whilst you wait for the COA indicates that you will get more for your £100 print should you wait for receipt of COA.

FWIW I bought a Banksy a year or so ago from a bloke with provenance like you have for this print and he got a COA within 2 weeks so it mibbe it wont take so long ? 

[Deleted]

So is this the damaged or mint one?

Mint would be £5000ish with Coa

Without the Coa it’s a much harder sell really

GLWS

[Mrs Mouse]

Hi

Thanks for the advice. I haven't listed it on eBay yet. It's mint condition. Kintoreton, did the COA come from POW or Pest Control? I know POW were only taking around 2 weeks but I heard Pest Control can take months.

[woodman]

Some COAs take between 6-12 months from what I have read.

[bone]

Jan 25, 2018 18:31:51 GMT 1 woodman said:

Some COAs take between 6-12 months from what I have read.

I inquired about a change of ownership this morning, pest control said that requests are taking up to 6 months

[Mrs Mouse]

Hi Bone

Thanks for the information. I was thinking of phoning them myself, but you've answered my question. I'm kicking myself I didn't apply years ago! Cheers

[Deleted]

Jan 25, 2018 18:24:54 GMT 1 Mrs Mouse said:

Hi

Thanks for the advice. I haven't listed it on eBay yet. It's mint condition. Kintoreton, did the COA come from POW or Pest Control? I know POW were only taking around 2 weeks but I heard Pest Control can take months.

I thought only PC issued COA's ?

[pr.yu]

I applied for change of ownership COA in early August. Still waiting.

[pr.yu]

My guess would be 30-35% decrease in value for lack of COA even with solid provenance. How do others think about it?

[Fake]

Jan 25, 2018 19:34:47 GMT 1 @kintoreton said:

Jan 25, 2018 18:24:54 GMT 1 Mrs Mouse said:

Hi

Thanks for the advice. I haven't listed it on eBay yet. It's mint condition. Kintoreton, did the COA come from POW or Pest Control? I know POW were only taking around 2 weeks but I heard Pest Control can take months.

I thought only PC issued COA's ?

You could also apply for one via POW

[kc143]

I applied for change of ownership end of September and got a email confirmation from PC about one month later, seems I was lucky 

[racket]

All this time in a sleeve..sigh

[pr.yu]

Jan 25, 2018 19:54:37 GMT 1 kc143 said:

I applied for change of ownership end of September and got a email confirmation from PC about one month later, seems I was lucky 

I got confirmation email that they received request in early August. Probably applied mid July. Still no COA in the mail.

[Art!]

Jan 25, 2018 21:14:29 GMT 1 pr.yu said:

Jan 25, 2018 19:54:37 GMT 1 kc143 said:

I applied for change of ownership end of September and got a email confirmation from PC about one month later, seems I was lucky 

I got confirmation email that they received request in early August. Probably applied mid July. Still no COA in the mail.

I had 2 people tell me it took them nearly a year..

[woodman]

I have got a Silver flag myself that I bought at auction a few years ago, I have never applied for change of ownership BUT I do have the COA. I emailed PC once about the change but never had a reply so didn't bother again! Is it worth pursuing, or only if I ever want to get rid of it (no intention of selling so never bothered chasing it up).

Sorry to ask on this sales thread but it seems to be on the same topic!

[Mrs Mouse]

Hi again.  I've had lots of requests for photos so here they are. 

[Mrs Mouse]

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The last-but-one photo shows the edge of the print. Where it was cut to size there's some slight lifting of the layer of paint.  If you look at the last photo and zoom in on the top edge you can see it is just on the very edge.  The print itself is perfect with no dinks or scratches. 

[ctc2]

I submitted five prints in Sept. I was original owner on three out of five. Both of the two I wasn't orig owner on were purchased from the original owner with POW receipts. Nothing from them except the original acknowledgment email.

[bbperez1]

OP are you looking to sell this print or just inquiring about pricing?

[robxxx7]

Jan 25, 2018 21:39:11 GMT 1 Art! said:

Jan 25, 2018 21:14:29 GMT 1 pr.yu said:

I got confirmation email that they received request in early August. Probably applied mid July. Still no COA in the mail.

I had 2 people tell me it took them nearly a year..

Just had my COA come through ..and took 1 year .. Did chase them up in the end and they were as good as gold to be honest .. they did say the process normally takes between 4-6 months

[Mrs Mouse]

bperez1 I was initially looking for advice but to be honest I've had loads of people messaging me with offers so I may be tempted

[bjoern]

Thanks for sharing pictures!

[Trevorm]

The pictures don't do this super print justice. I've had a 'few' of these over the past 5 or 6 years and this one looks to be in just about perfect condition.

I understand that it's been sold and the new owner must be very pleased with the acquisition. 😉

I also believe that you can buy or deal with the seller with confidence.