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Good investment?, by smokey on Nov 22, 2014 1:21:53 GMT 1, Hi guys. Been here a few months enjoying the art listings & humor(sometimes) that goes along with it. While discussing a recent purchase I'd made my mother in law told my wife & I she wouldn't mind investing in a piece or two. Her husband(my wife's father) passed a couple months ago from a long battle w/ cancer. My question is what would you guys suggest as an artist/specific prints for her to invest? She knows the success(or luck) I had during my record collecting days so she wants me to handle it. I'm excited but I don't buy as an investment. I buy what I like & if it grows in value then good for my wife & daughter. I imagine she'll want to hang on to whatever I decide but she may very well want to sell & reinvest in a year or two. I know a few desirable artists @ the moment but who do you guys see growing for the near future? Chevrier, Faile, D*Face, etc? Only wants to start w/ around $1000 USD so no Banksy.. Thanks for any help and advice. And apogies if subject is taboo & long winded but thought if anyone could help...
Hi guys. Been here a few months enjoying the art listings & humor(sometimes) that goes along with it. While discussing a recent purchase I'd made my mother in law told my wife & I she wouldn't mind investing in a piece or two. Her husband(my wife's father) passed a couple months ago from a long battle w/ cancer. My question is what would you guys suggest as an artist/specific prints for her to invest? She knows the success(or luck) I had during my record collecting days so she wants me to handle it. I'm excited but I don't buy as an investment. I buy what I like & if it grows in value then good for my wife & daughter. I imagine she'll want to hang on to whatever I decide but she may very well want to sell & reinvest in a year or two. I know a few desirable artists @ the moment but who do you guys see growing for the near future? Chevrier, Faile, D*Face, etc? Only wants to start w/ around $1000 USD so no Banksy.. Thanks for any help and advice. And apogies if subject is taboo & long winded but thought if anyone could help...
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 2:18:16 GMT 1, Rule #1, you have to love it. Search around for artists with her and get a sense of style, because if the investment doesnt pan out, she may be stuck with it so she'd better like it.
Rule #1, you have to love it. Search around for artists with her and get a sense of style, because if the investment doesnt pan out, she may be stuck with it so she'd better like it.
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Good investment?, by smokey on Nov 22, 2014 2:26:47 GMT 1, Yeah that's my Thought. I only buy what appeals to me so... I'll sit down w/ her shortly.
Yeah that's my Thought. I only buy what appeals to me so... I'll sit down w/ her shortly.
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Good investment?, by aa on Nov 22, 2014 2:38:26 GMT 1, Purely for investment, I'd guess any "Big Name" artists prints at source. Easier said than done...
Failing that, get her to buy what you like and let her hang it in your house. Your budgets just gone up a fair bit!
Purely for investment, I'd guess any "Big Name" artists prints at source. Easier said than done...
Failing that, get her to buy what you like and let her hang it in your house. Your budgets just gone up a fair bit!
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Good investment?, by Unica on Nov 22, 2014 2:56:43 GMT 1, You may not want to hear it, but I'd personally save up a bit more and get a Banksy if your looking for an investment, he is blue chip. You may not make a mint but you'll get your money back and have a nice piece that you can sell easily if necessary.
You'll struggle with Whatson, Dot Dot Dot, Chevrier, Dface. If you look at the wanted ads, its mostly Banksy. Just my opinion but I've not known anyone not be happy with a Banksy. I've bought all the others as well but when i've tried to sell, its not been easy.
I'd possibly consider a Space Invader for your budget, if you want to stick to that but doubt you'd get much appreciation or more than you paid for it.
You may not want to hear it, but I'd personally save up a bit more and get a Banksy if your looking for an investment, he is blue chip. You may not make a mint but you'll get your money back and have a nice piece that you can sell easily if necessary.
You'll struggle with Whatson, Dot Dot Dot, Chevrier, Dface. If you look at the wanted ads, its mostly Banksy. Just my opinion but I've not known anyone not be happy with a Banksy. I've bought all the others as well but when i've tried to sell, its not been easy.
I'd possibly consider a Space Invader for your budget, if you want to stick to that but doubt you'd get much appreciation or more than you paid for it.
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 3:16:10 GMT 1, $1000 can buy you a small original of an up and comer, so long as you do the research properly. But get her style and artists she likes, then put them here.
$1000 can buy you a small original of an up and comer, so long as you do the research properly. But get her style and artists she likes, then put them here.
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Good investment?, by smokey on Nov 22, 2014 3:20:23 GMT 1, Invader did cross my mind Jingle. May see if she'll come up on the budget. Kind of become a personal mission for me since like I said I only buy what will grace my wall. I made great profit on the records i sold before getting back into art but even those i bought because i liked the musician/album. And don't want to buy something to flip a week later. I understand it's a controversial topic but it's hard for me to even consider. Would like to find something she could enjoy. That's the problem. And thanks again guys for the input. Been out of the game for years so I take your advice seriously. Learned more since joining this forum than I ever thought I would.
Invader did cross my mind Jingle. May see if she'll come up on the budget. Kind of become a personal mission for me since like I said I only buy what will grace my wall. I made great profit on the records i sold before getting back into art but even those i bought because i liked the musician/album. And don't want to buy something to flip a week later. I understand it's a controversial topic but it's hard for me to even consider. Would like to find something she could enjoy. That's the problem. And thanks again guys for the input. Been out of the game for years so I take your advice seriously. Learned more since joining this forum than I ever thought I would.
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Good investment?, by Unica on Nov 22, 2014 3:32:02 GMT 1, Yes, I think Invader would hold its value but not sure if the mother in law would like it. I know mine wouldn't. I agree with a couple of the other posts, you must buy what she likes as she may be stuck with it on the wall. Ben Eine seems to hold is value, I like the Tenderloin series, would be in the price range, decent size print, great colors and great if she has grand kids. They can learn the alphabet but would need to include a W.
I like to buy art work that I can afford and can hopefully get my money back if I need to, Its not been easy as a lot of the popular artists of the day pump prints out every 6 months. Hence why I said Banksy to you, I know its more money but definitely got the staying power and I know she won't want to sell it. I am certainly sympathetic to her budget and would suggest if you can get a bigger pool of money it may be an option.
I've bought Hush, Whatson, Shane Turner, Dot Dot Dot, Priest and Paul Insect in the last few years. They haven't appreciated but my Banksy has. Just my experience, but I wanted to be straight with you.
Yes, I think Invader would hold its value but not sure if the mother in law would like it. I know mine wouldn't. I agree with a couple of the other posts, you must buy what she likes as she may be stuck with it on the wall. Ben Eine seems to hold is value, I like the Tenderloin series, would be in the price range, decent size print, great colors and great if she has grand kids. They can learn the alphabet but would need to include a W.
I like to buy art work that I can afford and can hopefully get my money back if I need to, Its not been easy as a lot of the popular artists of the day pump prints out every 6 months. Hence why I said Banksy to you, I know its more money but definitely got the staying power and I know she won't want to sell it. I am certainly sympathetic to her budget and would suggest if you can get a bigger pool of money it may be an option.
I've bought Hush, Whatson, Shane Turner, Dot Dot Dot, Priest and Paul Insect in the last few years. They haven't appreciated but my Banksy has. Just my experience, but I wanted to be straight with you.
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Good investment?, by South Bound on Nov 22, 2014 3:57:25 GMT 1, There is some good advice here. Not gonna suggest any artists because outside the foolproof Banksy it is an artist by artist, piece by piece decision.
My recommendation: research, research, research. Hang out on the forum, read the threads. Comb thru the sales records you will find on various websites. Read as many contemporary art books as you can get your hands on. Take your time as it will refine your tastes. Take this information and buy the artist and the prints / originals you like and put them on your wall. Think long term not short term.
Again: research, research, research / but ultimately you have to like it and want to live with it.
There is some good advice here. Not gonna suggest any artists because outside the foolproof Banksy it is an artist by artist, piece by piece decision.
My recommendation: research, research, research. Hang out on the forum, read the threads. Comb thru the sales records you will find on various websites. Read as many contemporary art books as you can get your hands on. Take your time as it will refine your tastes. Take this information and buy the artist and the prints / originals you like and put them on your wall. Think long term not short term.
Again: research, research, research / but ultimately you have to like it and want to live with it.
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Good investment?, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Nov 22, 2014 4:08:55 GMT 1, Lots of good advice.. I have liked micallef since I got into this game around 2007, would have loved one of his works back them but they were beyond my reach. He's a great talent and not sure (it's been discussed on here) why his prices have fallen a lot?
If I had 1200 notes spare today I would be buying this print :
m.ebay.co.uk/itm/121486957751?nav=SEARCH
Okay it 200 over your budget but its huge print and framed ready.. without researching the google machine I'm sure these were selling for over 3k. An artist with talent will always be around. Hopefully next year I can pick up a few of his pieces..
Lots of good advice.. I have liked micallef since I got into this game around 2007, would have loved one of his works back them but they were beyond my reach. He's a great talent and not sure (it's been discussed on here) why his prices have fallen a lot? If I had 1200 notes spare today I would be buying this print : m.ebay.co.uk/itm/121486957751?nav=SEARCH Okay it 200 over your budget but its huge print and framed ready.. without researching the google machine I'm sure these were selling for over 3k. An artist with talent will always be around. Hopefully next year I can pick up a few of his pieces..
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Good investment?, by Artforfun on Nov 22, 2014 4:32:26 GMT 1, I love Maya hayuks works and im sure many on here will agree with me shes very much appreciated at the moment. There was a Sales Thread for a very x a day or so ago where a Lot of People posted pics from Other works as well so think youll find sth Around your budget there
I love Maya hayuks works and im sure many on here will agree with me shes very much appreciated at the moment. There was a Sales Thread for a very x a day or so ago where a Lot of People posted pics from Other works as well so think youll find sth Around your budget there
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Good investment?, by cmodart on Nov 22, 2014 5:33:13 GMT 1, Here's some advice about investing in art. Don't.
More advice, take double the money and buy 1 of the new Gerhard richter multuples at Serpentine.
Personally I think dface Faile etc... are nice but a but trendy.
Richter is livable and demonstrably a good investment.
Here's some advice about investing in art. Don't.
More advice, take double the money and buy 1 of the new Gerhard richter multuples at Serpentine.
Personally I think dface Faile etc... are nice but a but trendy.
Richter is livable and demonstrably a good investment.
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Good investment?, by smokey on Nov 22, 2014 5:54:04 GMT 1, The kind of input I was hoping for & expecting. The mother in law could easily afford a nice unsigned Banksy w/o breaking the bank. $1000 was what she threw out & unless I can talk her into spending more I was seeing what kind of advice I could get. My wife teaches drama & since moving back to our tiny hometown after the loss of both our dads we've been trying our best to stay involved w/ the arts council & bring more culture into the area.. I've never even thought of "investing" until she threw the word out. If I like & have the money I buy it. Returning to college has meant passing up on a lot but... My taste & collection varies from original Ausgang to Billy Mode. One of our favorites @ is a really nice piece done by a student @ the school of the arts where the Mrs teaches. Like I said I was hoping to get some good responses & again you guys haven't disappointed. Many thanks & keep them coming. Maybe reading this will get her more keen to research as well.
The kind of input I was hoping for & expecting. The mother in law could easily afford a nice unsigned Banksy w/o breaking the bank. $1000 was what she threw out & unless I can talk her into spending more I was seeing what kind of advice I could get. My wife teaches drama & since moving back to our tiny hometown after the loss of both our dads we've been trying our best to stay involved w/ the arts council & bring more culture into the area.. I've never even thought of "investing" until she threw the word out. If I like & have the money I buy it. Returning to college has meant passing up on a lot but... My taste & collection varies from original Ausgang to Billy Mode. One of our favorites @ is a really nice piece done by a student @ the school of the arts where the Mrs teaches. Like I said I was hoping to get some good responses & again you guys haven't disappointed. Many thanks & keep them coming. Maybe reading this will get her more keen to research as well.
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Good investment?, by andyroo0312 on Nov 22, 2014 6:15:27 GMT 1, If it was my mother in-law and i liked her i would advice to go for a HF on paper from Sandra Chevrier as i have a feeling her work is only going to get more expensive in the short mid term but i would also caution her on the reality of making money off the purchase best to just go with something you really love at least that way you win regardless as the value is in the way it makes you feel each time you look at it. Happy hunting,
If it was my mother in-law and i liked her i would advice to go for a HF on paper from Sandra Chevrier as i have a feeling her work is only going to get more expensive in the short mid term but i would also caution her on the reality of making money off the purchase best to just go with something you really love at least that way you win regardless as the value is in the way it makes you feel each time you look at it. Happy hunting,
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Good investment?, by Cornish Crayon on Nov 22, 2014 8:47:31 GMT 1, If somebody tells you where to invest, then it is not an investment anymore.
If somebody tells you where to invest, then it is not an investment anymore.
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 9:10:36 GMT 1, Hi smokey, fair question! But please; Don't invest in art mate. Buy art because you love it. When you love it, surely a lot more people will love it and if you are 'lucky' it will rise in value so you can sell it in the future for the same amount you bought it for or even with a 'profit'. So you can trade up in piece or be able to buy a bigger piece. But most likely you will never sell the piece as you loved it in the first place and have grown custom to it and really don't want to sell it because you would never be able to buy it back again for the initial price you bought it for. Sometimes it is even worth less than the original price, but still you would never sell it because you simply love it to much.
If you truly want to invest in art and hope to make a large profit: Buy something most other people 'like' a lot. Buy at source and stick it in a folio (because you hate it and don't want to 'damage' it or spend the money on a good frame with decent glass). Then go online and tell everybody how much you love it and hype the price. Preferably do this with all others who bought it. Talk about how beautiful the piece is. Continue this for a week or so, price will therefor skyrocket after launch. Sell quick because people will notice that the piece is crap and the secondary market will be flooded with the piece within months of release for original price or even below cost.
So there you have it, my 2ยข and 2 options. If i were you i would go for the first option. As you wrote in your original post. You have had luck during your record collecting days. Did you only buy to make a great purchase for the future or did you mainly bought records because you loved having?
Good luck mate!
Hi smokey, fair question! But please; Don't invest in art mate. Buy art because you love it. When you love it, surely a lot more people will love it and if you are 'lucky' it will rise in value so you can sell it in the future for the same amount you bought it for or even with a 'profit'. So you can trade up in piece or be able to buy a bigger piece. But most likely you will never sell the piece as you loved it in the first place and have grown custom to it and really don't want to sell it because you would never be able to buy it back again for the initial price you bought it for. Sometimes it is even worth less than the original price, but still you would never sell it because you simply love it to much. If you truly want to invest in art and hope to make a large profit: Buy something most other people 'like' a lot. Buy at source and stick it in a folio (because you hate it and don't want to 'damage' it or spend the money on a good frame with decent glass). Then go online and tell everybody how much you love it and hype the price. Preferably do this with all others who bought it. Talk about how beautiful the piece is. Continue this for a week or so, price will therefor skyrocket after launch. Sell quick because people will notice that the piece is crap and the secondary market will be flooded with the piece within months of release for original price or even below cost. So there you have it, my 2ยข and 2 options. If i were you i would go for the first option. As you wrote in your original post. You have had luck during your record collecting days. Did you only buy to make a great purchase for the future or did you mainly bought records because you loved having? Good luck mate!
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Good investment?, by iamzero on Nov 22, 2014 9:18:16 GMT 1, This post makes me sad.
This post makes me sad.
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Good investment?, by Dice on Nov 22, 2014 9:44:04 GMT 1,
If buying for yourself you have to get something you love but art can be used purely as investment vehicle if you know what you're doing, much like investing in vintage cars or antiques surely?
I don't think it's sad. I was going to buy one of the emin releases from counter editions for ยฃ450 as I knew that it would be a great long term investment, even though I didn't particularly care for the print and I knew it wouldn't make the wall. Didn't have the readies in the end but that would have been an 'investment' decision much like smokey is contemplating. (It is now for sale for ยฃ1200)
Perhaps 'urban art' isn't the best place to look though.
If buying for yourself you have to get something you love but art can be used purely as investment vehicle if you know what you're doing, much like investing in vintage cars or antiques surely? I don't think it's sad. I was going to buy one of the emin releases from counter editions for ยฃ450 as I knew that it would be a great long term investment, even though I didn't particularly care for the print and I knew it wouldn't make the wall. Didn't have the readies in the end but that would have been an 'investment' decision much like smokey is contemplating. (It is now for sale for ยฃ1200) Perhaps 'urban art' isn't the best place to look though.
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Good investment?, by iamzero on Nov 22, 2014 9:55:47 GMT 1, It's sad because this place should be about the trading and discussion of art for the love and passion of it and not for finance profit or gain. Of I'm sorry for the loss of someone dear but take this thread to a FT forum and stop snatching street and urban art away from the people that can't afford blue chip prices, go away.
It's sad because this place should be about the trading and discussion of art for the love and passion of it and not for finance profit or gain. Of I'm sorry for the loss of someone dear but take this thread to a FT forum and stop snatching street and urban art away from the people that can't afford blue chip prices, go away.
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Good investment?, by Dice on Nov 22, 2014 10:08:33 GMT 1, It's sad because this place should be about the trading and discussion of art for the love and passion of it and not for finance profit or gain. Of I'm sorry for the loss of someone dear but take this thread to a FT forum and stop snatching street and urban art away from the people that can't afford blue chip prices, go away.
This is a multi faceted forum and people should be able to raise discussions without being told to go away.
It's sad because this place should be about the trading and discussion of art for the love and passion of it and not for finance profit or gain. Of I'm sorry for the loss of someone dear but take this thread to a FT forum and stop snatching street and urban art away from the people that can't afford blue chip prices, go away. This is a multi faceted forum and people should be able to raise discussions without being told to go away.
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 10:12:49 GMT 1, It is a difficult subject, but i do think we nead eachother. Without the hype no cool new artists and without art no hype. Banksy is populair because of what he does but lately also for his insane prices at the moment. Being in auctions and selling for thousands has also become part of him (if he likes it or not). He can even create new art discussing the crazyness (Morons or the this would look cool framed piece). Without investments, cash, shows, galleries, managers, art dealers there would be no hype. No hype no discussion, no discussion, no art, no art no funn! This goes the other way also; no funn, no art, no art, no discussion etc etc. If you want to flip? Flip! If you want to buy from a flipper please buy! If you want to invest please invest! If you want to enjoy art, please enjoy! I know what i want; I want to own, discuss and talk about great art!
It is a difficult subject, but i do think we nead eachother. Without the hype no cool new artists and without art no hype. Banksy is populair because of what he does but lately also for his insane prices at the moment. Being in auctions and selling for thousands has also become part of him (if he likes it or not). He can even create new art discussing the crazyness (Morons or the this would look cool framed piece). Without investments, cash, shows, galleries, managers, art dealers there would be no hype. No hype no discussion, no discussion, no art, no art no funn! This goes the other way also; no funn, no art, no art, no discussion etc etc. If you want to flip? Flip! If you want to buy from a flipper please buy! If you want to invest please invest! If you want to enjoy art, please enjoy! I know what i want; I want to own, discuss and talk about great art!
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Good investment?, by Galleri MDA on Nov 22, 2014 11:00:50 GMT 1, It is a difficult subject, but i do think we nead eachother. Without the hype no cool new artists and without art no hype. Banksy is populair because of what he does but lately also for his insane prices at the moment. Being in auctions and selling for thousands has also become part of him (if he likes it or not). He can even create new art discussing the crazyness (Morons or the this would look cool framed piece). Without investments, cash, shows, galleries, managers, art dealers there would be no hype. No hype no discussion, no discussion, no art, no art no funn! This goes the other way also; no funn, no art, no art, no discussion etc etc. If you want to flip? Flip! If you want to buy from a flipper please buy! If you want to invest please invest! If you want to enjoy art, please enjoy! I know what i want; I want to own, discuss and talk about great art! Now this is the most sane post I have read on here for a long time.
It is a difficult subject, but i do think we nead eachother. Without the hype no cool new artists and without art no hype. Banksy is populair because of what he does but lately also for his insane prices at the moment. Being in auctions and selling for thousands has also become part of him (if he likes it or not). He can even create new art discussing the crazyness (Morons or the this would look cool framed piece). Without investments, cash, shows, galleries, managers, art dealers there would be no hype. No hype no discussion, no discussion, no art, no art no funn! This goes the other way also; no funn, no art, no art, no discussion etc etc. If you want to flip? Flip! If you want to buy from a flipper please buy! If you want to invest please invest! If you want to enjoy art, please enjoy! I know what i want; I want to own, discuss and talk about great art! Now this is the most sane post I have read on here for a long time.
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 11:02:02 GMT 1, It is a difficult subject, but i do think we nead eachother. Without the hype no cool new artists and without art no hype. Banksy is populair because of what he does but lately also for his insane prices at the moment. Being in auctions and selling for thousands has also become part of him (if he likes it or not). He can even create new art discussing the crazyness (Morons or the this would look cool framed piece). Without investments, cash, shows, galleries, managers, art dealers there would be no hype. No hype no discussion, no discussion, no art, no art no funn! This goes the other way also; no funn, no art, no art, no discussion etc etc. If you want to flip? Flip! If you want to buy from a flipper please buy! If you want to invest please invest! If you want to enjoy art, please enjoy! I know what i want; I want to own, discuss and talk about great art! Now this is the most sane post I have read on here for a long time. O crap! ..... sorry mate, didn't mean to do that....
It is a difficult subject, but i do think we nead eachother. Without the hype no cool new artists and without art no hype. Banksy is populair because of what he does but lately also for his insane prices at the moment. Being in auctions and selling for thousands has also become part of him (if he likes it or not). He can even create new art discussing the crazyness (Morons or the this would look cool framed piece). Without investments, cash, shows, galleries, managers, art dealers there would be no hype. No hype no discussion, no discussion, no art, no art no funn! This goes the other way also; no funn, no art, no art, no discussion etc etc. If you want to flip? Flip! If you want to buy from a flipper please buy! If you want to invest please invest! If you want to enjoy art, please enjoy! I know what i want; I want to own, discuss and talk about great art! Now this is the most sane post I have read on here for a long time. O crap! ..... sorry mate, didn't mean to do that....
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Good investment?, by iamzero on Nov 22, 2014 11:05:55 GMT 1, Where's the suggestion box? We should have a thumbs down button for some comments.
Where's the suggestion box? We should have a thumbs down button for some comments.
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Good investment?, by Quinnster on Nov 22, 2014 11:20:06 GMT 1, Check out my for sale thread some amazing investment oppertunutys :-)
Please not investments can go down as well as up.
Check out my for sale thread some amazing investment oppertunutys :-)
Please not investments can go down as well as up.
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Good investment?, by jlf on Nov 22, 2014 11:56:22 GMT 1, Like many of the other buy something you both love. If you want an investment I would look to the stock market, if you really need it to be in art buy into a fund that trades in art as they will have all the expertise.
Although with art you get something to put on your wall and love to look at, I regularly find myself stopping and looking at the works I have, but who knows if any of them will be worth a lot in a few years. I'd personally try and get an original if you can, but then it would need to be a newish artist at that budget, but then if you pick the right one you might get lucky and make a fortune
Like many of the other buy something you both love. If you want an investment I would look to the stock market, if you really need it to be in art buy into a fund that trades in art as they will have all the expertise.
Although with art you get something to put on your wall and love to look at, I regularly find myself stopping and looking at the works I have, but who knows if any of them will be worth a lot in a few years. I'd personally try and get an original if you can, but then it would need to be a newish artist at that budget, but then if you pick the right one you might get lucky and make a fortune
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Good investment?, by blackdogprints on Nov 22, 2014 12:04:31 GMT 1, Buy art from the heart , I'd never pay loads for a peace of art I don't really like
Buy art from the heart , I'd never pay loads for a peace of art I don't really like
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Good investment?, by smokey on Nov 22, 2014 12:21:07 GMT 1, Hi smokey, fair question! But please; Don't invest in art mate. Buy art because you love it. When you love it, surely a lot more people will love it and if you are 'lucky' it will rise in value so you can sell it in the future for the same amount you bought it for or even with a 'profit'. So you can trade up in piece or be able to buy a bigger piece. But most likely you will never sell the piece as you loved it in the first place and have grown custom to it and really don't want to sell it because you would never be able to buy it back again for the initial price you bought it for. Sometimes it is even worth less than the original price, but still you would never sell it because you simply love it to much. If you truly want to invest in art and hope to make a large profit: Buy something most other people 'like' a lot. Buy at source and stick it in a folio (because you hate it and don't want to 'damage' it or spend the money on a good frame with decent glass). Then go online and tell everybody how much you love it and hype the price. Preferably do this with all others who bought it. Talk about how beautiful the piece is. Continue this for a week or so, price will therefor skyrocket after launch. Sell quick because people will notice that the piece is crap and the secondary market will be flooded with the piece within months of release for original price or even below cost. So there you have it, my 2ยข and 2 options. If i were you i would go for the first option. As you wrote in your original post. You have had luck during your record collecting days. Did you only buy to make a great purchase for the future or did you mainly bought records because you loved having? Good luck mate! thanks Json for understanding this was simply a thread asking for advice on investing which is new to me. For those that it upset I do apologize. Hey it beats me just asking out of curiosity the average age of most people on here. Yes mother in law is a lover of the arts but is mainly(I assume from her use of the word invest) looking to make money. I had some artists in mind to show her their work in the hopes she might actually enjoy it ad well & that was part of the reason for this thread. Perhaps get some names I'd missed or even a non urban art or two that might be more to her liking. As for my record & music memorabilia collecting, like w/ art, I never bought anything I didn't enjoy. Whether an early Spacemen 3/Spiritualized pc to La Monte Young's rare releases. I liked them. Only when I decided it was difficult to enjoy them once I had my daughter did I decide to let certain ones go. Hard to justify disappearing w/ headphones on when your child wants to play. I had a feeling there'd be a negative comment or two hence my initial apology. Nothing may come of it, she may up her initial investment & go for an unsigned, or even better may find something she loves & will display it proudly. Obviously being an art lover(she's a big supporter of the arts here too) I'm hoping for the latter. Been on here several months & even though I've responded to a few, this is my first thread. I appreciate the support & positive advice . Knew some of you from other posts wouldn't mind a simple discussion. And again, for those I've upset, apologies all around.
Hi smokey, fair question! But please; Don't invest in art mate. Buy art because you love it. When you love it, surely a lot more people will love it and if you are 'lucky' it will rise in value so you can sell it in the future for the same amount you bought it for or even with a 'profit'. So you can trade up in piece or be able to buy a bigger piece. But most likely you will never sell the piece as you loved it in the first place and have grown custom to it and really don't want to sell it because you would never be able to buy it back again for the initial price you bought it for. Sometimes it is even worth less than the original price, but still you would never sell it because you simply love it to much. If you truly want to invest in art and hope to make a large profit: Buy something most other people 'like' a lot. Buy at source and stick it in a folio (because you hate it and don't want to 'damage' it or spend the money on a good frame with decent glass). Then go online and tell everybody how much you love it and hype the price. Preferably do this with all others who bought it. Talk about how beautiful the piece is. Continue this for a week or so, price will therefor skyrocket after launch. Sell quick because people will notice that the piece is crap and the secondary market will be flooded with the piece within months of release for original price or even below cost. So there you have it, my 2ยข and 2 options. If i were you i would go for the first option. As you wrote in your original post. You have had luck during your record collecting days. Did you only buy to make a great purchase for the future or did you mainly bought records because you loved having? Good luck mate! thanks Json for understanding this was simply a thread asking for advice on investing which is new to me. For those that it upset I do apologize. Hey it beats me just asking out of curiosity the average age of most people on here. Yes mother in law is a lover of the arts but is mainly(I assume from her use of the word invest) looking to make money. I had some artists in mind to show her their work in the hopes she might actually enjoy it ad well & that was part of the reason for this thread. Perhaps get some names I'd missed or even a non urban art or two that might be more to her liking. As for my record & music memorabilia collecting, like w/ art, I never bought anything I didn't enjoy. Whether an early Spacemen 3/Spiritualized pc to La Monte Young's rare releases. I liked them. Only when I decided it was difficult to enjoy them once I had my daughter did I decide to let certain ones go. Hard to justify disappearing w/ headphones on when your child wants to play. I had a feeling there'd be a negative comment or two hence my initial apology. Nothing may come of it, she may up her initial investment & go for an unsigned, or even better may find something she loves & will display it proudly. Obviously being an art lover(she's a big supporter of the arts here too) I'm hoping for the latter. Been on here several months & even though I've responded to a few, this is my first thread. I appreciate the support & positive advice . Knew some of you from other posts wouldn't mind a simple discussion. And again, for those I've upset, apologies all around.
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 13:37:15 GMT 1, Where's the suggestion box? We should have a thumbs down button for some comments. Talking about my comments in this thread? Just quote my post and add "-1" And i know what's up
Where's the suggestion box? We should have a thumbs down button for some comments. Talking about my comments in this thread? Just quote my post and add "-1" And i know what's up
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 13:47:47 GMT 1, And a friend of mine has a saying about investing in art which i would like to share with you fellas :
"Always invest in investments which will go up!"
And a friend of mine has a saying about investing in art which i would like to share with you fellas :
"Always invest in investments which will go up!"
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