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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by lha on Feb 19, 2014 15:01:01 GMT 1, And another one sells for a big price, pisses me off every time.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26254509
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Forbidden Love
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Forbidden Love on Feb 19, 2014 15:06:31 GMT 1, that is a classic!
It kind of gave me that feeling of banksy when I first started following him before it went commercial.
i loved/miss that feeling.
that is a classic!
It kind of gave me that feeling of banksy when I first started following him before it went commercial.
i loved/miss that feeling.
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Prescription Art
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Prescription Art on Feb 19, 2014 15:48:29 GMT 1,
I don't understand this... the original piece was damaged a couple of times, and then repainted.
This piece that's been repainted is still in situ on the pub, and looking much like this:
bit.ly/1jbUVxq
I don't get what it is they've sold, or how or when it was removed from the pub without anyone noticing.
Even if they somehow removed the original piece of wall, it would have been repainted to such a degree that I would just consider it a replica of the original piece.
It's all very odd.
I don't understand this... the original piece was damaged a couple of times, and then repainted. This piece that's been repainted is still in situ on the pub, and looking much like this: bit.ly/1jbUVxqI don't get what it is they've sold, or how or when it was removed from the pub without anyone noticing. Even if they somehow removed the original piece of wall, it would have been repainted to such a degree that I would just consider it a replica of the original piece. It's all very odd. |
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Jimmy Oscar
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Jimmy Oscar on Feb 19, 2014 15:55:42 GMT 1,
I was told it was sold by the pub owner who needed the cash and was fed up having to keep touching the piece up due to damage.
I was driving through Southampton (a town in the Hamptons for those who don't know) last summer and I went into the gallery to see it - absolutely incredible in person.
Views on removing street pieces aside - it looked incredible hung on the wall.
Weighed in around 600 lbs so you'd need a hell of a hook too.
I was told it was sold by the pub owner who needed the cash and was fed up having to keep touching the piece up due to damage.
I was driving through Southampton (a town in the Hamptons for those who don't know) last summer and I went into the gallery to see it - absolutely incredible in person.
Views on removing street pieces aside - it looked incredible hung on the wall.
Weighed in around 600 lbs so you'd need a hell of a hook too.
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Carrie
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Carrie on Feb 19, 2014 15:56:47 GMT 1, I'm wondering whether it is a different piece to the Brighton one. It says it is spray paint and emulsion on aluminium and that it is framed.
I'm wondering whether it is a different piece to the Brighton one. It says it is spray paint and emulsion on aluminium and that it is framed.
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Carrie
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Carrie on Feb 19, 2014 15:57:28 GMT 1, Unless the wall was aluminium?
Unless the wall was aluminium?
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Dungle
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Dungle on Feb 19, 2014 16:08:20 GMT 1,
I agree with Will Gompertz.
I agree with Will Gompertz.
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Prescription Art
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Prescription Art on Feb 19, 2014 16:20:44 GMT 1, I'm wondering whether it is a different piece to the Brighton one. It says it is spray paint and emulsion on aluminium and that it is framed.
The original piece was certainly not on aluminium, it was on the wall of a pub.
As far as I know there were only ever two 'Kissing Coppers' painted outside - one in Brighton & one in Ladbroke Grove.
All reports suggest that this piece was taken from the Prince Albert pub:
www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/feb/19/banksy-mural-kissing-coppers-sells-us
However there is no sign on the pub wall that anything has been removed.
And as far as I know, no-one saw a large section of the pub wall being taken out, and no-one saw it being replaced with a replica. It's also hard to see how that particular section of wall that was sold was taken from behind the lamppost.
I might pass by tomorrow and see if it's in any way feasible that the piece could have been taken from the pub wall.
My feeling is that it's a very expensive fake.
In a lot of the photos on flickr dating from 2005 / 2006 there is a significant crack in the wall right across the middle of the piece. I would be interested to know if that matched up to this auction piece....
I'm wondering whether it is a different piece to the Brighton one. It says it is spray paint and emulsion on aluminium and that it is framed. The original piece was certainly not on aluminium, it was on the wall of a pub. As far as I know there were only ever two 'Kissing Coppers' painted outside - one in Brighton & one in Ladbroke Grove. All reports suggest that this piece was taken from the Prince Albert pub: www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/feb/19/banksy-mural-kissing-coppers-sells-usHowever there is no sign on the pub wall that anything has been removed. And as far as I know, no-one saw a large section of the pub wall being taken out, and no-one saw it being replaced with a replica. It's also hard to see how that particular section of wall that was sold was taken from behind the lamppost. I might pass by tomorrow and see if it's in any way feasible that the piece could have been taken from the pub wall. My feeling is that it's a very expensive fake. In a lot of the photos on flickr dating from 2005 / 2006 there is a significant crack in the wall right across the middle of the piece. I would be interested to know if that matched up to this auction piece.... |
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 16:24:09 GMT 1, Keszler flogging a fake?, makes a change from him flogging stolen works i suppose.
Keszler flogging a fake?, makes a change from him flogging stolen works i suppose.
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hnkpnk
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by hnkpnk on Feb 19, 2014 16:27:32 GMT 1, I don't understand this... the original piece was damaged a couple of times, and then repainted. This piece that's been repainted is still in situ on the pub, and looking much like this: bit.ly/1jbUVxqI don't get what it is they've sold, or how or when it was removed from the pub without anyone noticing. Even if they somehow removed the original piece of wall, it would have been repainted to such a degree that I would just consider it a replica of the original piece. It's all very odd.
I don't understand this... the original piece was damaged a couple of times, and then repainted. This piece that's been repainted is still in situ on the pub, and looking much like this: bit.ly/1jbUVxqI don't get what it is they've sold, or how or when it was removed from the pub without anyone noticing. Even if they somehow removed the original piece of wall, it would have been repainted to such a degree that I would just consider it a replica of the original piece. It's all very odd. It was even worse than that: |
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Prescription Art
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Prescription Art on Feb 19, 2014 16:30:35 GMT 1, It was even worse than that:
Ha, yes I couldn't find that picture but i remembered it being pretty badly damaged!!
It was even worse than that: Ha, yes I couldn't find that picture but i remembered it being pretty badly damaged!! |
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Happy Shopper on Feb 19, 2014 16:34:19 GMT 1, As far as I know there were only ever two 'Kissing Coppers' painted outside - one in Brighton & one in Ladbroke Grove.
Wasn't there also one on a wall on Broadwick Street, near Carnaby Street...
White painted wall here:
maps.google.it/maps?q=carnaby+street&hl=en&ll=51.513163,-0.137297&spn=0.002904,0.010504&sll=45.460829,9.071926&sspn=0.462828,0.672226&hnear=Carnaby+St&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.513164,-0.137292&panoid=bJq_vYrPDv3QR59pHX2p5g&cbp=11,95.73,,0,-2.57
And certainly never removed. Just painted over.
As far as I know there were only ever two 'Kissing Coppers' painted outside - one in Brighton & one in Ladbroke Grove. Wasn't there also one on a wall on Broadwick Street, near Carnaby Street... White painted wall here: maps.google.it/maps?q=carnaby+street&hl=en&ll=51.513163,-0.137297&spn=0.002904,0.010504&sll=45.460829,9.071926&sspn=0.462828,0.672226&hnear=Carnaby+St&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.513164,-0.137292&panoid=bJq_vYrPDv3QR59pHX2p5g&cbp=11,95.73,,0,-2.57 And certainly never removed. Just painted over. |
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hnkpnk
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by hnkpnk on Feb 19, 2014 16:40:15 GMT 1, "In 2008 a specialist art restoration company used chemicals to transfer the image onto a canvas, and the original was replaced with a facsimile, encased in perspex. "I don't think we are cheating people," said Steward. "Maybe it's a little bit misleading but it's 80% a Banksy, just the stencil's been done by somebody else."
www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2011/apr/21/banksy-kissing-copppers-sold-america
"In 2008 a specialist art restoration company used chemicals to transfer the image onto a canvas, and the original was replaced with a facsimile, encased in perspex. "I don't think we are cheating people," said Steward. "Maybe it's a little bit misleading but it's 80% a Banksy, just the stencil's been done by somebody else." www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2011/apr/21/banksy-kissing-copppers-sold-america |
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Happy Shopper on Feb 19, 2014 16:43:07 GMT 1, Whatever someone bought, it wasn't done by Banksy... pretty clear from that Guardian article!!
Whatever someone bought, it wasn't done by Banksy... pretty clear from that Guardian article!!
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Dungle
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Dungle on Feb 19, 2014 16:47:01 GMT 1, "In 2008 a specialist art restoration company used chemicals to transfer the image onto a canvas, and the original was replaced with a facsimile, encased in perspex. "I don't think we are cheating people," said Steward. "Maybe it's a little bit misleading but it's 80% a Banksy, just the stencil's been done by somebody else." www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2011/apr/21/banksy-kissing-copppers-sold-america
That quote is genuis.
"In 2008 a specialist art restoration company used chemicals to transfer the image onto a canvas, and the original was replaced with a facsimile, encased in perspex. "I don't think we are cheating people," said Steward. "Maybe it's a little bit misleading but it's 80% a Banksy, just the stencil's been done by somebody else." www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2011/apr/21/banksy-kissing-copppers-sold-americaThat quote is genuis. |
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by randomname on Feb 19, 2014 17:27:55 GMT 1, Sweet. I know how to make a stencil. Now I can start making and selling 80% real Banksys.
Sweet. I know how to make a stencil. Now I can start making and selling 80% real Banksys.
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hnkpnk
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by hnkpnk on Feb 19, 2014 17:37:29 GMT 1, Sweet. I know how to make a stencil. Now I can start making and selling 80% real Banksys.
Despite all the restorations and "transfer [of] the image onto a canvas" (and then aluminium?) they still consider that as the original. I don't.
Sweet. I know how to make a stencil. Now I can start making and selling 80% real Banksys. I guess what they mean is that the stencil on the pub wall is 80% Banksy. Despite all the restorations and "transfer [of] the image onto a canvas" (and then aluminium?) they still consider that as the original. I don't. |
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by londonboy on Feb 19, 2014 17:50:03 GMT 1, As far as I know there were only ever two 'Kissing Coppers' painted outside - one in Brighton & one in Ladbroke Grove. Wasn't there also one on a wall on Broadwick Street, near Carnaby Street... White painted wall here: maps.google.it/maps?q=carnaby+street&hl=en&ll=51.513163,-0.137297&spn=0.002904,0.010504&sll=45.460829,9.071926&sspn=0.462828,0.672226&hnear=Carnaby+St&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.513164,-0.137292&panoid=bJq_vYrPDv3QR59pHX2p5g&cbp=11,95.73,,0,-2.57 And certainly never removed. Just painted over.
I m pretty sure one was in soho or near it back in the days
As far as I know there were only ever two 'Kissing Coppers' painted outside - one in Brighton & one in Ladbroke Grove. Wasn't there also one on a wall on Broadwick Street, near Carnaby Street... White painted wall here: maps.google.it/maps?q=carnaby+street&hl=en&ll=51.513163,-0.137297&spn=0.002904,0.010504&sll=45.460829,9.071926&sspn=0.462828,0.672226&hnear=Carnaby+St&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.513164,-0.137292&panoid=bJq_vYrPDv3QR59pHX2p5g&cbp=11,95.73,,0,-2.57 And certainly never removed. Just painted over. I m pretty sure one was in soho or near it back in the days |
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Dungle
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Dungle on Feb 19, 2014 18:34:07 GMT 1, Sweet. I know how to make a stencil. Now I can start making and selling 80% real Banksys.
Doesn't that make it an Outis?
Sweet. I know how to make a stencil. Now I can start making and selling 80% real Banksys. Doesn't that make it an Outis? |
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by Warm Gun on Feb 19, 2014 21:02:18 GMT 1, You've gotta be a bit of a plank to be spending such a huge sum on a piece that is essentially no longer even a Banksy, I find this quite strange.
You've gotta be a bit of a plank to be spending such a huge sum on a piece that is essentially no longer even a Banksy, I find this quite strange.
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by mikehaspey on Feb 19, 2014 21:11:43 GMT 1, Think someone has much more money than sense here....
As said, it's not even really 'a Banksy' now, strange.
Think someone has much more money than sense here....
As said, it's not even really 'a Banksy' now, strange.
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Kissing Coppers Street Piece Sold, by mmmike on Feb 20, 2014 1:46:48 GMT 1, I don't believe anyone bought that. I think it was just a fake result to try to encourage people to buy those highly impractical wall parts.
I don't believe anyone bought that. I think it was just a fake result to try to encourage people to buy those highly impractical wall parts.
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