schlege
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Street art legacy?, by schlege on Nov 20, 2013 19:05:53 GMT 1, Also Mode2 deserves to be remembered.
Also Mode2 deserves to be remembered.
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mmmike
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Street art legacy?, by mmmike on Nov 20, 2013 19:40:08 GMT 1, Sam3 will be the late found genius who did not get the deserved respect at his time. That wouldn't surprise me except i think for that to happen a lot of his really impressive street pieces would have to survive.
Sam3 will be the late found genius who did not get the deserved respect at his time. That wouldn't surprise me except i think for that to happen a lot of his really impressive street pieces would have to survive.
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eschiff
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Street art legacy?, by eschiff on Nov 20, 2013 20:11:50 GMT 1, Sam3 will be the late found genius who did not get the deserved respect at his time. That wouldn't surprise me except i think for that to happen a lot of his really impressive street pieces would have to survive. He's got a show in Italy coming up...should be interesting to see how that goes.
Sam3 will be the late found genius who did not get the deserved respect at his time. That wouldn't surprise me except i think for that to happen a lot of his really impressive street pieces would have to survive. He's got a show in Italy coming up...should be interesting to see how that goes.
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mmmike
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Street art legacy?, by mmmike on Nov 20, 2013 20:13:45 GMT 1, I'm sure his shows are great but his murals I think are where he really shines.
I'm sure his shows are great but his murals I think are where he really shines.
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raindogs
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Street art legacy?, by raindogs on Nov 20, 2013 20:20:47 GMT 1, eschiff where and when in Italy? Thank you!
eschiff where and when in Italy? Thank you!
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anodyne13
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Street art legacy?, by anodyne13 on Nov 21, 2013 6:09:10 GMT 1, I think the term Street Art is already being forgotten especially within the artists and we see it with the auction houses. With more younger academics writing books and establishing a historical narrative of graffiti and Urban art somewhere down the line we will settle on a common term, but street art seems to be the least likely term due to most street artists not wanting to be called a street artist and graffiti artists having a genuine hate for the word. That being said the whole graffiti/urban art movement and yes I believe is has been and is a movement will be around for some time and will challenge post-modernism and conceptual art. It has already done so on a larger scale than any other artform and continues to grow with the public not only the 1% intellectuals and wealthy. I believe as our supporters collectors much like this forum grow older and become more established in society the artform will continue to grow as its audience has. You already see the older graffiti artists evolving and stepping outside there roots, muralists, and so forth there is a wide range of artists all creating a huge international network. I cant say what artist will become great or be remembered because viewing from todays standards we cannot see the effect that everyone of you will have on the artists as well as artists catching breaks as well. The important thing is that as a whole the artform is the future of the artworld and unless academics create a new artform that can compete we will swallow up most markets withing 20 years and be the status quo until some other youth movement takes us over. I think this post is very well articulated and I'll add a few thoughts in a similar vein:
- As the younger generation (20s-40s) becomes wealthier, they will want to buy a Banksy, not a Warhol. Every generation has favorites based on nostalgia or what speaks to them at the time. You see it in art cars etc..the fans/collectors will only grow it's relevance from a historical perspective down the road.
- The beauty of this art movement is it not only lived in the streets but coincided with the rise of the internet, communication, and accessibility. The urban artists worked outside of the art establishment paradigm making art accessible to all in the streets, online, direct sales through websites, etc. This kind of accessibility was not the standard at the time where art had to be filtered through self-appointed gate-keepers of culture.
- There are really only 2-5 names that make it to the condensed "History of Art" book on any given movement. Urban Art will be no exception, so while many artists will be relevant, only a few will be the true ballers. If I had to handicap that list now in order: 1. Banksy 2. Fairey 3. Kaws Everyone else is in a fight for 4th and 5th place.
I think the term Street Art is already being forgotten especially within the artists and we see it with the auction houses. With more younger academics writing books and establishing a historical narrative of graffiti and Urban art somewhere down the line we will settle on a common term, but street art seems to be the least likely term due to most street artists not wanting to be called a street artist and graffiti artists having a genuine hate for the word. That being said the whole graffiti/urban art movement and yes I believe is has been and is a movement will be around for some time and will challenge post-modernism and conceptual art. It has already done so on a larger scale than any other artform and continues to grow with the public not only the 1% intellectuals and wealthy. I believe as our supporters collectors much like this forum grow older and become more established in society the artform will continue to grow as its audience has. You already see the older graffiti artists evolving and stepping outside there roots, muralists, and so forth there is a wide range of artists all creating a huge international network. I cant say what artist will become great or be remembered because viewing from todays standards we cannot see the effect that everyone of you will have on the artists as well as artists catching breaks as well. The important thing is that as a whole the artform is the future of the artworld and unless academics create a new artform that can compete we will swallow up most markets withing 20 years and be the status quo until some other youth movement takes us over. I think this post is very well articulated and I'll add a few thoughts in a similar vein: - As the younger generation (20s-40s) becomes wealthier, they will want to buy a Banksy, not a Warhol. Every generation has favorites based on nostalgia or what speaks to them at the time. You see it in art cars etc..the fans/collectors will only grow it's relevance from a historical perspective down the road. - The beauty of this art movement is it not only lived in the streets but coincided with the rise of the internet, communication, and accessibility. The urban artists worked outside of the art establishment paradigm making art accessible to all in the streets, online, direct sales through websites, etc. This kind of accessibility was not the standard at the time where art had to be filtered through self-appointed gate-keepers of culture. - There are really only 2-5 names that make it to the condensed "History of Art" book on any given movement. Urban Art will be no exception, so while many artists will be relevant, only a few will be the true ballers. If I had to handicap that list now in order: 1. Banksy 2. Fairey 3. Kaws Everyone else is in a fight for 4th and 5th place.
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Street art legacy?, by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 7:00:21 GMT 1, Interest thread (although it is not a new topic )
Yep, as said above, Urban Art will be in history of art and condensed.
1/ Taki183 - Taki will always be mentioned as the first ever graffiti writers, a perfect name to introduce the movement.
2/ Blek le Rat - Despite the fact that he latest work is far from perfect, Blek turned the American style graffiti to stencil art (more European style
3/ Banksy - Who is Banksy ? The second generation of the Europe stencil style + lot of British corrosive humor We love Banksy
4/ Fairey - The second generation of the US graffiti era, the one that turned his pasteups/ into an entrepreneurial venture/real business
5/ Invader - For his persistence, his originality and his incredible stats (so many countries; so many pieces hanged)
6/ JR - If he continues what he is doing, JR may be included in history of art in few years time... and sure, JR will close the chapter as a perfect example of the new Internet era (Internet, legitimisation, money, people/celebs, etc.)
Not sure about Kaws, Swoon, Faile
Interest thread (although it is not a new topic ) Yep, as said above, Urban Art will be in history of art and condensed. 1/ Taki183 - Taki will always be mentioned as the first ever graffiti writers, a perfect name to introduce the movement. 2/ Blek le Rat - Despite the fact that he latest work is far from perfect, Blek turned the American style graffiti to stencil art (more European style 3/ Banksy - Who is Banksy ? The second generation of the Europe stencil style + lot of British corrosive humor We love Banksy 4/ Fairey - The second generation of the US graffiti era, the one that turned his pasteups/ into an entrepreneurial venture/real business 5/ Invader - For his persistence, his originality and his incredible stats (so many countries; so many pieces hanged) 6/ JR - If he continues what he is doing, JR may be included in history of art in few years time... and sure, JR will close the chapter as a perfect example of the new Internet era (Internet, legitimisation, money, people/celebs, etc.) Not sure about Kaws, Swoon, Faile
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