bigp
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Am I asking too much?, by bigp on Oct 2, 2012 13:13:13 GMT 1, Ive been looking for some new Banksy prints for a while now.I have had about 9 deals set up (4 off of here & 5 off of ebay),but when I mention getting someone from pest control to take a look before I buy it,they pull out.
I just dont get it,every one of them said their print was 100% real,yet they wont send an email which would take 10mins max.I can usually find out the same day if the prints ok or not.
My question is to you do you think Im asking too much of the seller.after all Ill be parting with well over a Grand of my hard earned reddies.
Ive been looking for some new Banksy prints for a while now.I have had about 9 deals set up (4 off of here & 5 off of ebay),but when I mention getting someone from pest control to take a look before I buy it,they pull out.
I just dont get it,every one of them said their print was 100% real,yet they wont send an email which would take 10mins max.I can usually find out the same day if the prints ok or not.
My question is to you do you think Im asking too much of the seller.after all Ill be parting with well over a Grand of my hard earned reddies.
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Forbidden Love
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Am I asking too much?, by Forbidden Love on Oct 2, 2012 13:14:44 GMT 1, in one word..NO
in one word..NO
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Hubble Bubble
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Am I asking too much?, by Hubble Bubble on Oct 2, 2012 13:18:07 GMT 1, ^^ Agree. Due diligence is number 1 when buying Banksy. Sounds like you're being fair and sensible.
^^ Agree. Due diligence is number 1 when buying Banksy. Sounds like you're being fair and sensible.
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mouser
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Am I asking too much?, by mouser on Oct 2, 2012 13:20:51 GMT 1, No, and the fact that they are saying no should raise alarm bells.
In the day and age of well documented forgeries etc, you cant be too carefull, as you say its a grand or more of your money.
Most sellers with nothing to fear should have no issues contacting PC, they dont even need to have the cert, the email confirmation of details is often enough to settle a buyers queries.
Sellers are happy to charge a premium for supplying a PC cert with a print, I'd say its reasonable enough to ask a seller for a little peace of mind when effectively handing over a considerable amount of cash to a stranger.
No, and the fact that they are saying no should raise alarm bells.
In the day and age of well documented forgeries etc, you cant be too carefull, as you say its a grand or more of your money.
Most sellers with nothing to fear should have no issues contacting PC, they dont even need to have the cert, the email confirmation of details is often enough to settle a buyers queries.
Sellers are happy to charge a premium for supplying a PC cert with a print, I'd say its reasonable enough to ask a seller for a little peace of mind when effectively handing over a considerable amount of cash to a stranger.
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Gulosten
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Am I asking too much?, by Gulosten on Oct 2, 2012 13:41:20 GMT 1, No, you are not asking too much 
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Am I asking too much?, by fingerz on Oct 2, 2012 13:44:11 GMT 1, it's the numero 1 thing to ask , any seller with nothing to hide will/should give the info
it's the numero 1 thing to ask , any seller with nothing to hide will/should give the info
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Ruggs
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Am I asking too much?, by Ruggs on Oct 2, 2012 13:47:26 GMT 1, I purchased my Love Rat on the secondary market. The guy, who was the original owner, advertised it on Auction Saboteur. Prior to us sealing a deal I asked if he could prove its authenticity and he forwarded me his name which he said was registered with POW and the original Protx purchase e-mail. Unfortunately, he had no Pest Control certficate. Anyway, I contacted Dora and sure enough his name came up as the owner. With this small, but significant piece of info we closed out a deal and he sent me everything I needed including receipt, signed letter and the original tube with postage label and POW's old Willow Street address label on it. These details along with pictures of the print ensured that my Pest Control would be a mere formality, which it was. Certificate came through within a couple of weeks. All i'd say is leave no stone unturned. If I couldn't get the details I was after I would walk away.
I purchased my Love Rat on the secondary market. The guy, who was the original owner, advertised it on Auction Saboteur. Prior to us sealing a deal I asked if he could prove its authenticity and he forwarded me his name which he said was registered with POW and the original Protx purchase e-mail. Unfortunately, he had no Pest Control certficate. Anyway, I contacted Dora and sure enough his name came up as the owner. With this small, but significant piece of info we closed out a deal and he sent me everything I needed including receipt, signed letter and the original tube with postage label and POW's old Willow Street address label on it. These details along with pictures of the print ensured that my Pest Control would be a mere formality, which it was. Certificate came through within a couple of weeks. All i'd say is leave no stone unturned. If I couldn't get the details I was after I would walk away.
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Forbidden Love
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Am I asking too much?, by Forbidden Love on Oct 2, 2012 13:53:52 GMT 1, I purchased my Love Rat on the secondary market. The guy, who was the original owner, advertised it on Auction Saboteur. Prior to us sealing a deal I asked if he could prove its authenticity and he forwarded me his name which he said was registered with POW and the original Protx purchase e-mail. Unfortunately, he had no Pest Control certficate. Anyway, I contacted Dora and sure enough his name came up as the owner. With this small, but significant piece of info we closed out a deal and he sent me everything I needed including receipt, signed letter and the original tube with postage label and POW's old Willow Street address label on it. These details along with pictures of the print ensured that my Pest Control would be a mere formality, which it was. Certificate came through within a couple of weeks. All i'd say is leave no stone unturned. If I couldn't get the details I was after I would walk away.
this has also been the case for me.
I purchased my Love Rat on the secondary market. The guy, who was the original owner, advertised it on Auction Saboteur. Prior to us sealing a deal I asked if he could prove its authenticity and he forwarded me his name which he said was registered with POW and the original Protx purchase e-mail. Unfortunately, he had no Pest Control certficate. Anyway, I contacted Dora and sure enough his name came up as the owner. With this small, but significant piece of info we closed out a deal and he sent me everything I needed including receipt, signed letter and the original tube with postage label and POW's old Willow Street address label on it. These details along with pictures of the print ensured that my Pest Control would be a mere formality, which it was. Certificate came through within a couple of weeks. All i'd say is leave no stone unturned. If I couldn't get the details I was after I would walk away. this has also been the case for me. |
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confused2
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Am I asking too much?, by confused2 on Oct 2, 2012 13:57:29 GMT 1, All of the above. Check the ownership with POW/ PC, and if a seller is unwilling to provide you with the information then I'd carefully consider going through with the purchase.
There will be instances where a print has changed hands without the ownership being updated or a seller having no real provenence, and in those situations you have to make a judgement call on the risks you're willing to take.
All of the above. Check the ownership with POW/ PC, and if a seller is unwilling to provide you with the information then I'd carefully consider going through with the purchase.
There will be instances where a print has changed hands without the ownership being updated or a seller having no real provenence, and in those situations you have to make a judgement call on the risks you're willing to take.
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bigp
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Am I asking too much?, by bigp on Oct 2, 2012 14:14:34 GMT 1, Thanks Guys thought I was going mad.like I said over the last year Ive lost 9 deals( four off of here) due to people not willing to cooperate.Its not that I distrust the people, I just want to make sure they are authentic.
Thanks Guys thought I was going mad.like I said over the last year Ive lost 9 deals( four off of here) due to people not willing to cooperate.Its not that I distrust the people, I just want to make sure they are authentic.
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Zippy
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Am I asking too much?, by Zippy on Oct 2, 2012 14:27:46 GMT 1, No, and the fact that they are saying no should raise alarm bells. In the day and age of well documented forgeries etc, you cant be too carefull, as you say its a grand or more of your money. Most sellers with nothing to fear should have no issues contacting PC, they dont even need to have the cert, the email confirmation of details is often enough to settle a buyers queries. Sellers are happy to charge a premium for supplying a PC cert with a print, I'd say its reasonable enough to ask a seller for a little peace of mind when effectively handing over a considerable amount of cash to a stranger.
Mouser pretty much sums this up in his note above.
Definately walk away if ANYTHING seems odd. A genuine seller will encourage you to check out the trail for your peace of mind.
No, and the fact that they are saying no should raise alarm bells. In the day and age of well documented forgeries etc, you cant be too carefull, as you say its a grand or more of your money. Most sellers with nothing to fear should have no issues contacting PC, they dont even need to have the cert, the email confirmation of details is often enough to settle a buyers queries. Sellers are happy to charge a premium for supplying a PC cert with a print, I'd say its reasonable enough to ask a seller for a little peace of mind when effectively handing over a considerable amount of cash to a stranger. Mouser pretty much sums this up in his note above. Definately walk away if ANYTHING seems odd. A genuine seller will encourage you to check out the trail for your peace of mind. |
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Am I asking too much?, by fingerz on Oct 2, 2012 14:31:50 GMT 1, the seller who i'm hopefully buying mine off sent me that many pic's of the print/COA along with his name etc i dont know what to do with them all ... lol
the seller who i'm hopefully buying mine off sent me that many pic's of the print/COA along with his name etc i dont know what to do with them all ... lol
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bigp
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Am I asking too much?, by bigp on Oct 2, 2012 16:04:36 GMT 1, Send me a few pics Fingerz,that will make me feel a hell of a lot better..... lol
Send me a few pics Fingerz,that will make me feel a hell of a lot better..... lol
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maadbeats
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Am I asking too much?, by maadbeats on Oct 2, 2012 16:13:13 GMT 1, If I owned a banksy and had coa. I would water mark the hell out of it so anyone cant just print it off and use it as their own then email it to the potential buyer. I also think it's the sellers responsibility to try and curb any further shenanigans
If I owned a banksy and had coa. I would water mark the hell out of it so anyone cant just print it off and use it as their own then email it to the potential buyer. I also think it's the sellers responsibility to try and curb any further shenanigans
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grafik
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Am I asking too much?, by grafik on Oct 2, 2012 16:25:36 GMT 1, the COA's have a torn difaced tenner on them with a unique number on.. The tear conforms to the other half which is kept at POW
PRETTY HARD TO FORGE I THINK
the COA's have a torn difaced tenner on them with a unique number on.. The tear conforms to the other half which is kept at POW
PRETTY HARD TO FORGE I THINK
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Am I asking too much?, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 16:32:31 GMT 1, I purchased my Love Rat on the secondary market. The guy, who was the original owner, advertised it on Auction Saboteur. Prior to us sealing a deal I asked if he could prove its authenticity and he forwarded me his name which he said was registered with POW and the original Protx purchase e-mail. Unfortunately, he had no Pest Control certficate. Anyway, I contacted Dora and sure enough his name came up as the owner. With this small, but significant piece of info we closed out a deal and he sent me everything I needed including receipt, signed letter and the original tube with postage label and POW's old Willow Street address label on it. These details along with pictures of the print ensured that my Pest Control would be a mere formality, which it was. Certificate came through within a couple of weeks. All i'd say is leave no stone unturned. If I couldn't get the details I was after I would walk away.
sound advice !
I purchased my Love Rat on the secondary market. The guy, who was the original owner, advertised it on Auction Saboteur. Prior to us sealing a deal I asked if he could prove its authenticity and he forwarded me his name which he said was registered with POW and the original Protx purchase e-mail. Unfortunately, he had no Pest Control certficate. Anyway, I contacted Dora and sure enough his name came up as the owner. With this small, but significant piece of info we closed out a deal and he sent me everything I needed including receipt, signed letter and the original tube with postage label and POW's old Willow Street address label on it. These details along with pictures of the print ensured that my Pest Control would be a mere formality, which it was. Certificate came through within a couple of weeks. All i'd say is leave no stone unturned. If I couldn't get the details I was after I would walk away. sound advice ! |
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maadbeats
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Am I asking too much?, by maadbeats on Oct 2, 2012 17:58:26 GMT 1, the COA's have a torn difaced tenner on them with a unique number on.. The tear conforms to the other half which is kept at POW PRETTY HARD TO FORGE I THINK
People can forge anything. Better be safe then sorry
the COA's have a torn difaced tenner on them with a unique number on.. The tear conforms to the other half which is kept at POW PRETTY HARD TO FORGE I THINK People can forge anything. Better be safe then sorry |
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bigp
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Am I asking too much?, by bigp on Oct 2, 2012 18:29:16 GMT 1, Don't ever email the PC certificate to anyone without obscuring the number on the di faced tenner and the edition number. If the print you're buying has a PC certificate I don't see the problem. Buy the print, double check with PC and if there is a problem open a case in paypal.
The thing is I ask the people im trying to buy off to email pest control with these details direct.So I dont have to see the cetificate and print number until I do the deal in person.But they still refuse..
Don't ever email the PC certificate to anyone without obscuring the number on the di faced tenner and the edition number. If the print you're buying has a PC certificate I don't see the problem. Buy the print, double check with PC and if there is a problem open a case in paypal. The thing is I ask the people im trying to buy off to email pest control with these details direct.So I dont have to see the cetificate and print number until I do the deal in person.But they still refuse.. |
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Am I asking too much?, by fingerz on Oct 2, 2012 18:48:20 GMT 1, happy days
Customer Services PCO
4:14 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
This all matches up, please let us know if you purchase the print and we'll update our records.
Thanks,
PCO
happy days
Customer Services PCO
4:14 PM (2 hours ago)
to me
This all matches up, please let us know if you purchase the print and we'll update our records.
Thanks,
PCO
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Am I asking too much?, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 19:48:37 GMT 1, Great news Fingerz
Great news Fingerz |
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Am I asking too much?, by warsaw project on Oct 2, 2012 20:44:46 GMT 1, happy days Customer Services PCO 4:14 PM (2 hours ago) to me This all matches up, please let us know if you purchase the print and we'll update our records. Thanks, PCO
Nice! Hope it all go's smoothly for ya... Look forward to seeing what you've purchased
happy days Customer Services PCO 4:14 PM (2 hours ago) to me This all matches up, please let us know if you purchase the print and we'll update our records. Thanks, PCO Nice! Hope it all go's smoothly for ya... Look forward to seeing what you've purchased |
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georgec7
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Am I asking too much?, by georgec7 on Oct 2, 2012 22:49:36 GMT 1, happy days Customer Services PCO 4:14 PM (2 hours ago) to me This all matches up, please let us know if you purchase the print and we'll update our records. PCO
Is this the one you mentioned last week?
happy days Customer Services PCO 4:14 PM (2 hours ago) to me This all matches up, please let us know if you purchase the print and we'll update our records. PCO Is this the one you mentioned last week? |
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Am I asking too much?, by fingerz on Oct 3, 2012 7:20:34 GMT 1, no G this is another one .... 
no G this is another one .... |
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bigp
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Am I asking too much?, by bigp on Oct 7, 2012 18:01:00 GMT 1, After 10 attempts I've managed to bag another Banksy.So thanks Biggie for a smooth transaction,top man .
Cheers.
After 10 attempts I've managed to bag another Banksy.So thanks Biggie for a smooth transaction,top man .
Cheers.
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