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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 16:35:59 GMT 1, Hey All,
I know lots of owners and fans here of Pejac, but it feels to me like since the loveletter "stunt" his market has been taking a bit of a hit and lots on offer when it seemed untouchable for a while. This is the way of things... look at Harland Miller or Invader recently, but I am curious if people think that loveletter print and its price single-handedly started a small pullback the Pejac market and Pejac fanclub.
I do.
Have other artists had a similar print that has thrown a wrench in the gears ? I know Maya Hayuk did, that's for sure.
And I'm not saying Pejac is dead, done, or dusted, just thinking that one print seemed to have changed the trajectory -
Hey All,
I know lots of owners and fans here of Pejac, but it feels to me like since the loveletter "stunt" his market has been taking a bit of a hit and lots on offer when it seemed untouchable for a while. This is the way of things... look at Harland Miller or Invader recently, but I am curious if people think that loveletter print and its price single-handedly started a small pullback the Pejac market and Pejac fanclub.
I do.
Have other artists had a similar print that has thrown a wrench in the gears ? I know Maya Hayuk did, that's for sure.
And I'm not saying Pejac is dead, done, or dusted, just thinking that one print seemed to have changed the trajectory -
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by jbelleit on Feb 20, 2019 16:45:27 GMT 1, What was the print for Maya Hayuk? (just trying to learn things...)
What was the print for Maya Hayuk? (just trying to learn things...)
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 16:50:56 GMT 1, She released the below image. I'm half joking that it hurt her market, but its just so terrible and was the butt of a lot of jokes around here -
She released the below image. I'm half joking that it hurt her market, but its just so terrible and was the butt of a lot of jokes around here -
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Masong on Feb 20, 2019 16:52:31 GMT 1, What was the print for Maya Hayuk? (just trying to learn things...)
Got to be Farewell My Hero & Prince.. That’s was a stinker, putting it very politely
What was the print for Maya Hayuk? (just trying to learn things...) Got to be Farewell My Hero & Prince.. That’s was a stinker, putting it very politely
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by jbelleit on Feb 20, 2019 16:54:09 GMT 1, Wow...I really like her works but that is awful...wow! Sometimes when you drop acid you might not want to make career decisions in the middle of the trip.
Wow...I really like her works but that is awful...wow! Sometimes when you drop acid you might not want to make career decisions in the middle of the trip.
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by churchwood on Feb 20, 2019 17:03:19 GMT 1, Hadn't seen this for a while - confirms that not everything improves with age
Hadn't seen this for a while - confirms that not everything improves with age
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Matt on Feb 20, 2019 17:03:54 GMT 1, Classic story : Too high too fast, and a disproportionate amount of the fan base on the forum
Classic story : Too high too fast, and a disproportionate amount of the fan base on the forum
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by juni0209 on Feb 20, 2019 17:08:27 GMT 1, I can’t see how love letter would hurt te career of Pejac. It’s a wonderfull piece. Wouldn’t mind getting some prints for less though...😉
I can’t see how love letter would hurt te career of Pejac. It’s a wonderfull piece. Wouldn’t mind getting some prints for less though...😉
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by nobokov on Feb 20, 2019 17:11:44 GMT 1, From the looks of it, the Desprestigio has sailed. Luckily only a select group will be affected by the downturn.
From the looks of it, the Desprestigio has sailed. Luckily only a select group will be affected by the downturn.
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:17:25 GMT 1, Classic story : Too high too fast, and a disproportionate amount of the fan base on the forum I agree. I think the forum representation is obviously skewed, but it's not just us who were out there buying anything Pejac. But yes, too high too fast, agreed.
Classic story : Too high too fast, and a disproportionate amount of the fan base on the forum I agree. I think the forum representation is obviously skewed, but it's not just us who were out there buying anything Pejac. But yes, too high too fast, agreed.
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:18:56 GMT 1, I can’t see how love letter would hurt te career of Pejac. It’s a wonderfull piece. Wouldn’t mind getting some prints for less though...😉 I don't think it hurt the career per say, just the price of his works and the desire to hold which is the same at buying at today's market price. Seems people are not liking this bet as much as they used to -
I can’t see how love letter would hurt te career of Pejac. It’s a wonderfull piece. Wouldn’t mind getting some prints for less though...😉 I don't think it hurt the career per say, just the price of his works and the desire to hold which is the same at buying at today's market price. Seems people are not liking this bet as much as they used to -
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by juni0209 on Feb 20, 2019 17:21:11 GMT 1, I can’t see how love letter would hurt te career of Pejac. It’s a wonderfull piece. Wouldn’t mind getting some prints for less though...😉 I don't think it hurt the career per say, just the price of his works and the desire to hold which is the same at buying at today's market price. Seems people are not liking this bet as much as they used to -
By works you mean prints?
I can’t see how love letter would hurt te career of Pejac. It’s a wonderfull piece. Wouldn’t mind getting some prints for less though...😉 I don't think it hurt the career per say, just the price of his works and the desire to hold which is the same at buying at today's market price. Seems people are not liking this bet as much as they used to - By works you mean prints?
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:33:13 GMT 1, I don't think it hurt the career per say, just the price of his works and the desire to hold which is the same at buying at today's market price. Seems people are not liking this bet as much as they used to - By works you mean prints? Yes, by works I mean prints. I have zero idea on his OG market, but to me that's usually a different market all together. Obviously they are correlated, but I have seen things happen in Murakami land where OG seem to soften, but prints get bid. So anyway, yes prints.
I don't think it hurt the career per say, just the price of his works and the desire to hold which is the same at buying at today's market price. Seems people are not liking this bet as much as they used to - By works you mean prints? Yes, by works I mean prints. I have zero idea on his OG market, but to me that's usually a different market all together. Obviously they are correlated, but I have seen things happen in Murakami land where OG seem to soften, but prints get bid. So anyway, yes prints.
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by juni0209 on Feb 20, 2019 17:44:45 GMT 1, By works you mean prints? Yes, by works I mean prints. I have zero idea on his OG market, but to me that's usually a different market all together. Obviously they are correlated, but I have seen things happen in Murakami land where OG seem to soften, but prints get bid. So anyway, yes prints.
I think it is the case for most artists that prints are overvalued. Certainly on the secondary market.
By works you mean prints? Yes, by works I mean prints. I have zero idea on his OG market, but to me that's usually a different market all together. Obviously they are correlated, but I have seen things happen in Murakami land where OG seem to soften, but prints get bid. So anyway, yes prints. I think it is the case for most artists that prints are overvalued. Certainly on the secondary market.
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by teabaggins on Feb 20, 2019 17:53:31 GMT 1, Hey All, I know lots of owners and fans here of Pejac, but it feels to me like since the loveletter "stunt" his market has been taking a bit of a hit and lots on offer when it seemed untouchable for a while. This is the way of things... look at Harland Miller or Invader recently, but I am curious if people think that loveletter print and its price single-handedly started a small pullback the Pejac market and Pejac fanclub. I do. Have other artists had a similar print that has thrown a wrench in the gears ? I know Maya Hayuk did, that's for sure. And I'm not saying Pejac is dead, done, or dusted, just thinking that one print seemed to have changed the trajectory - intersting. Has Harland’s market taken a hit? His last release (tonight we make history) seems to have gone pretty well. The lesser quality titles seem to be the ones that “entrepreneurs” made a mad dash to round up then they were still available at source 2 years ago and not can’t turn for a mad profit. No surprise there. Still, if talking monetary, the entry point of one of his prints is not really comparable to Pejac or Invader.
Invaders market was proven to be simply manufactured over the last 18 months by a few with vested interest that are now sitting on loads of inventory. Shame as he deserves real recognition imo.
Pejac is super talented imo. Is deserving of recognition, and is doing some incredible and kind of inspiring outdoor work. That said he essentially does not exist outside of this place. Hopefully that will change one day. If you are buying his work with a motivation beyond just liking it you are probably doing it wrong.
Hey All, I know lots of owners and fans here of Pejac, but it feels to me like since the loveletter "stunt" his market has been taking a bit of a hit and lots on offer when it seemed untouchable for a while. This is the way of things... look at Harland Miller or Invader recently, but I am curious if people think that loveletter print and its price single-handedly started a small pullback the Pejac market and Pejac fanclub. I do. Have other artists had a similar print that has thrown a wrench in the gears ? I know Maya Hayuk did, that's for sure. And I'm not saying Pejac is dead, done, or dusted, just thinking that one print seemed to have changed the trajectory - intersting. Has Harland’s market taken a hit? His last release (tonight we make history) seems to have gone pretty well. The lesser quality titles seem to be the ones that “entrepreneurs” made a mad dash to round up then they were still available at source 2 years ago and not can’t turn for a mad profit. No surprise there. Still, if talking monetary, the entry point of one of his prints is not really comparable to Pejac or Invader. Invaders market was proven to be simply manufactured over the last 18 months by a few with vested interest that are now sitting on loads of inventory. Shame as he deserves real recognition imo. Pejac is super talented imo. Is deserving of recognition, and is doing some incredible and kind of inspiring outdoor work. That said he essentially does not exist outside of this place. Hopefully that will change one day. If you are buying his work with a motivation beyond just liking it you are probably doing it wrong.
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Kevin Anderson on Feb 20, 2019 19:12:50 GMT 1, What was the print for Maya Hayuk? (just trying to learn things...) Don’t forget this tour de force!
What was the print for Maya Hayuk? (just trying to learn things...) Don’t forget this tour de force!
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 20, 2019 19:17:52 GMT 1, Has pejac market really taken a hit since live letter? Im not sure I've seen it
Has pejac market really taken a hit since live letter? Im not sure I've seen it
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 19:18:12 GMT 1, I cannot believe that I forgot that dolphins. That was also absolutely amazing. I'm actually tempted to buy both of them out of sheer fascination.
I cannot believe that I forgot that dolphins. That was also absolutely amazing. I'm actually tempted to buy both of them out of sheer fascination.
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 19:20:50 GMT 1, On top of all this, he posted two hours ago about the Love Letter special edition.
www.instagram.com/pejac_art/?hl=en
You on this thread Pejac ? Still love your work man don't get me wrong.
On top of all this, he posted two hours ago about the Love Letter special edition. www.instagram.com/pejac_art/?hl=enYou on this thread Pejac ? Still love your work man don't get me wrong.
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Fake on Feb 20, 2019 21:52:41 GMT 1, I think a timed release has given al the galleries who re-sell his work scored one and maybe more. So you now see so many for sale... they probably bought half the edition lol.
I think a timed release has given al the galleries who re-sell his work scored one and maybe more. So you now see so many for sale... they probably bought half the edition lol.
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 22:03:02 GMT 1, I’m not sure where Harland fits into this? The classic penguin images are commanding top dollar. The recent small release is 20k now , 10-14 on release. He doesn’t need this forums hype
I’m not sure where Harland fits into this? The classic penguin images are commanding top dollar. The recent small release is 20k now , 10-14 on release. He doesn’t need this forums hype
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by tab1 on Feb 20, 2019 22:30:55 GMT 1, Hey All, I know lots of owners and fans here of Pejac, but it feels to me like since the loveletter "stunt" his market has been taking a bit of a hit and lots on offer when it seemed untouchable for a while. This is the way of things... look at Harland Miller or Invader recently, but I am curious if people think that loveletter print and its price single-handedly started a small pullback the Pejac market and Pejac fanclub. I do. Have other artists had a similar print that has thrown a wrench in the gears ? I know Maya Hayuk did, that's for sure. And I'm not saying Pejac is dead, done, or dusted, just thinking that one print seemed to have changed the trajectory -
A lot more pejacs listed in the last 24hrs than the last couple of months ..
Hey All, I know lots of owners and fans here of Pejac, but it feels to me like since the loveletter "stunt" his market has been taking a bit of a hit and lots on offer when it seemed untouchable for a while. This is the way of things... look at Harland Miller or Invader recently, but I am curious if people think that loveletter print and its price single-handedly started a small pullback the Pejac market and Pejac fanclub. I do. Have other artists had a similar print that has thrown a wrench in the gears ? I know Maya Hayuk did, that's for sure. And I'm not saying Pejac is dead, done, or dusted, just thinking that one print seemed to have changed the trajectory - A lot more pejacs listed in the last 24hrs than the last couple of months ..
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Graham H on Feb 20, 2019 22:43:20 GMT 1, Pure coincidence on my partHey All, I know lots of owners and fans here of Pejac, but it feels to me like since the loveletter "stunt" his market has been taking a bit of a hit and lots on offer when it seemed untouchable for a while. This is the way of things... look at Harland Miller or Invader recently, but I am curious if people think that loveletter print and its price single-handedly started a small pullback the Pejac market and Pejac fanclub. I do. Have other artists had a similar print that has thrown a wrench in the gears ? I know Maya Hayuk did, that's for sure. And I'm not saying Pejac is dead, done, or dusted, just thinking that one print seemed to have changed the trajectory - A lot more pejacs listed in the last 24hrs than the last couple of months ..
Pure coincidence on my part Hey All, I know lots of owners and fans here of Pejac, but it feels to me like since the loveletter "stunt" his market has been taking a bit of a hit and lots on offer when it seemed untouchable for a while. This is the way of things... look at Harland Miller or Invader recently, but I am curious if people think that loveletter print and its price single-handedly started a small pullback the Pejac market and Pejac fanclub. I do. Have other artists had a similar print that has thrown a wrench in the gears ? I know Maya Hayuk did, that's for sure. And I'm not saying Pejac is dead, done, or dusted, just thinking that one print seemed to have changed the trajectory - A lot more pejacs listed in the last 24hrs than the last couple of months ..
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by artearte on Feb 20, 2019 23:01:38 GMT 1, I’m not sure where Harland fits into this? The classic penguin images are commanding top dollar. The recent small release is 20k now , 10-14 on release. He doesn’t need this forums hype
Millers are not selling! Check the gallery and those are full of unsold millers
I’m not sure where Harland fits into this? The classic penguin images are commanding top dollar. The recent small release is 20k now , 10-14 on release. He doesn’t need this forums hype Millers are not selling! Check the gallery and those are full of unsold millers
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:20:08 GMT 1, I’m not sure where Harland fits into this? The classic penguin images are commanding top dollar. The recent small release is 20k now , 10-14 on release. He doesn’t need this forums hype Millers are not selling! Check the gallery and those are full of unsold millers
Galleries are over priced. You can’t sell a Monet at the wrong price!
Harland is grade A , represented by a major gallery and has been around a very long time. He’s not some forum fodder like the others being discussed.,
I’m not sure where Harland fits into this? The classic penguin images are commanding top dollar. The recent small release is 20k now , 10-14 on release. He doesn’t need this forums hype Millers are not selling! Check the gallery and those are full of unsold millers Galleries are over priced. You can’t sell a Monet at the wrong price! Harland is grade A , represented by a major gallery and has been around a very long time. He’s not some forum fodder like the others being discussed.,
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by .dappy on Feb 20, 2019 23:29:58 GMT 1, Millers are not selling! Check the gallery and those are full of unsold millers Galleries are over priced. You can’t sell a Monet at the wrong price! Harland is grade A , represented by a major gallery and has been around a very long time. He’s not some forum fodder like the others being discussed., ... pejac forum fodder?
Millers are not selling! Check the gallery and those are full of unsold millers Galleries are over priced. You can’t sell a Monet at the wrong price! Harland is grade A , represented by a major gallery and has been around a very long time. He’s not some forum fodder like the others being discussed., ... pejac forum fodder?
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Shoeless on Feb 20, 2019 23:36:07 GMT 1, Sell! Sell! Sell!
I have 1k for your Meadow print. Get out while you can!
Sell! Sell! Sell!
I have 1k for your Meadow print. Get out while you can!
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Redbirds on Feb 20, 2019 23:40:45 GMT 1, Sell! Sell! Sell! I have 1k for your Meadow print. Get out while you can!
Amen to that -sell sell -got Vote print for any Pejac -rising JW for sinking Pejac -tie your art mule to a winner
Sell! Sell! Sell! I have 1k for your Meadow print. Get out while you can! Amen to that -sell sell -got Vote print for any Pejac -rising JW for sinking Pejac -tie your art mule to a winner
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:50:53 GMT 1, Galleries are over priced. You can’t sell a Monet at the wrong price! Harland is grade A , represented by a major gallery and has been around a very long time. He’s not some forum fodder like the others being discussed., ... pejac forum fodder?
Pejac is primarily bought and sold on here. He’s been pumped hard and a lot of people are now selling. That’s how the forum is..
To compare him to Harland miller, an established artist, represented by a major gallery’s, sold through every major auction house, seems a bit daft.
When the forum moves onto the next great hope (insert Oli Epp etc here) I see the market slowing.
Talented - yes, is that enough - who knows
Galleries are over priced. You can’t sell a Monet at the wrong price! Harland is grade A , represented by a major gallery and has been around a very long time. He’s not some forum fodder like the others being discussed., ... pejac forum fodder? Pejac is primarily bought and sold on here. He’s been pumped hard and a lot of people are now selling. That’s how the forum is.. To compare him to Harland miller, an established artist, represented by a major gallery’s, sold through every major auction house, seems a bit daft. When the forum moves onto the next great hope (insert Oli Epp etc here) I see the market slowing. Talented - yes, is that enough - who knows
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Pejac Love Lost on Love Letter, by tab1 on Feb 21, 2019 0:55:24 GMT 1, Wow...I really like her works but that is awful...wow! Sometimes when you drop acid you might not want to make career decisions in the middle of the trip.
Think America was in the grip of spice aka mojo aka k2 when this print was released 😉 , acid is old school 👵🏻
Wow...I really like her works but that is awful...wow! Sometimes when you drop acid you might not want to make career decisions in the middle of the trip. Think America was in the grip of spice aka mojo aka k2 when this print was released 😉 , acid is old school 👵🏻
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