[Pistol]

Have recently been working on a few ideas one of which involves a few variations on the Hitler theme. Whilst test spraying today came up with this idea.

I did read the thread about artists not promoting their work and I do agree to some extent. However and it is a big however I would like to say since joining this forum I have become well hooked on 'Urban art' and thanks to the likes of Stickee, Logical 1, SPQR, Banksee, 20/20, Grafter, Ben Slow and many many more I have picked up and learned so much. There are alot of fine people that frequent here and are willing to listen and help. I think this forum encourages new artists and maybe should be left as it is.



Merry Chritmas and a Happy New Year to all forum members.

[Guest]

can i be honest?

avoid nazi themes.

[Zippy]

agreed.
I get that you are poking fun but just seeing the sickening image still stirs up emotions.
I understand that as an artist you might wish to try to push boundaries, shock, scare and frighten people.
But this image can never be seen in amy other way as pure hatred.

[loucastel]

Strange this, I know that we should accept all forms of art, normally this wouldnt bother me, but the other night I got roped into watching the movie Cabaret with Lizza Minelli, and one of the songs I found very disturbing, it was the anthem for the Hitler Youth, and until a few years ago was banned from being screened, really made me think!

[chappkp]

At least you didnt name your son Adolf Hitler. You might have a hard time getting him a cake
www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4796248a4560.html

[T*3]

haha, yeh i seen that cake picture on my yahoo homepage a few days ago.

[spiiiiiike]

Yeh, I think its hard using a hitler image and to pull it off well. Best to avoid.

[Guy Denning]

Dec 21, 2008 0:32:19 GMT 1 loucastel said:

Strange this, I know that we should accept all forms of art, normally this wouldnt bother me, but the other night I got roped into watching the movie Cabaret with Lizza Minelli, and one of the songs I found very disturbing, it was the anthem for the Hitler Youth, and until a few years ago was banned from being screened, really made me think!

I don't know about this part of the film ever being banned, but to my sad nerd-like knowledge it's not the anthem of the Hitler Youth. It was written by John Kander and Fred Ebb who penned the tunes for the rest of the film version of Cabaret.

Another interesting related item (I think) is this. Laibach and the NSK art-group who've been around since the 80s. Their work is generally a criticism of totalitarianism of all political persuasions and they have been attacked as fascists and communists because of the imagery and the sound of the music they make.
As said on this thread, appropriating the iconography of the far right is problematic and has to be carried off with absolute perfection to avoid accusations of celebrating it. I've followed Laibach since the 80s, they are not fascists and this is one of the most sinister music videos I know.
fr.youtube.com/watch?v=_q5mlb3Bjzs&feature=channel_page

[bobbymeachamjr]

I was a Laibach fan up 'til the mid 90's, peaking with Kapital. I was also greatly into the "Apocalyptic folk" of Current 93/Death in June/Boyd Rice/Nurse with Wound who many times employed imagery that the Nazis appropriated...

That said, the artist who started this thread should do some more research and/or take some creative development classes.

[baileymontana]

Might be more interesting to see this on the street. Any BNP meeting places near where you live? Got about 4 days to get it up out there.

[klyde]

One for Easter, Ted Bunny.

[Existencil]

I don't think Hitler can ever be funny.

[sahoria]

only person in my opinion that has ever been able to pull it off is charlie chaplin in "the great dictator"... apart from that would find uncomfortable seeing... s

[Pistol]

Thankyou all for your kind comments. I have to say I find it a bit odd you are so offended by a pic of someone. If there was some evil intent or political view then I could understand, but then if we all had the same opinions this forum and life in general would be quite dull. Anyway none of you have put me off but I always appreciate any views, so thanks again!

[Pistol]

Have just finished this piece and would love some feedback please! If anyone is interested I have one on card to give away just let me know. If I get more than one request I will draw from a hat! Off to the London Art Fair now. May see you in the queue! If you are going have a good evening!!!!!!!!

[pezlow]

That looks cool pistol. What do the words mean?

[darrenrapley]

Was going to ask the same thing.
Looks very clean

[elwheel]

Very crisp and clean and white on wood grain always does it for me. Is it a rude message or order?

[doublehelix]

Is the translation: "pull my finger" ?

[Grubster]

"We want you"

[elwheel]

Sooooooo Mister Pistol....... (idly drums fingers on table, slurps tea).... can you umm...... stick my name in the hat? Thanks. (blushes).

[deckstar]

very nice clean cut, looks cool on the wood!

[Pistol]

Thanks very much for all your kind and amusing comments. Its quite funny as I spoke to Stickee yesterday whilst in London and explained to him the text and then when I got to the art fair a very large poster outside said it all!!!



I also quote Rob and Nick Carter from the art fair brochure 'language is abstract until you learn to read'

Hope this helps!

Congrats Elwheel you won the card version please pm me. Thanks to all those that showed an interest.

[elwheel]

Holy Crap! I haven't won anything since the egg and spoon race in primary six! Thanks a ton Pistol.

[Karl Read]

Looks great Pistol, Nice One!

[Pistol]

Jan 14, 2009 16:39:31 GMT 1 Karl Read said:

Looks great Pistol, Nice One!

Thanks mate, appreciate it!

[funyoung]

Jan 14, 2009 15:38:53 GMT 1 Pistol said:

This jus t reminds me of Brain Training on the Nintendo DS.
Is that where they got the idea?

[bigwilly]

looks nice

real nice stencil work

[Pistol]

Thanks bigwilly! (Never thought I would hear myself say that)!

[stickee]

spotted this in the east end last night