craigf
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by craigf on Apr 26, 2012 8:25:14 GMT 1, If I was selling something for almost ยฃ4k I would spend the extra ยฃ60 to get the COA and make the deal watertight. Offer them ยฃ3.8k with COA and then see the response. You would be mad to spank this sort of money if there is any doubt in your mind about it
If I was selling something for almost ยฃ4k I would spend the extra ยฃ60 to get the COA and make the deal watertight. Offer them ยฃ3.8k with COA and then see the response. You would be mad to spank this sort of money if there is any doubt in your mind about it
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 13:57:09 GMT 1, Let me get some advice, approaching this from the other side.
I have committed--assuming all paper trail is in order--to an unsigned early Banksy print that comes with COA. Before sending payment I contacted POW, Dora got back to me almost immediately, and said print is not registered to seller. Maybe it had changed hands and an owner never updated the file.
Dora asked for me to get names of previous owner(s)--to match with something in their database. Seller (with sterling ebay rep & possibly a forum member) did not know, got it from "some bloke" then later sent me a name (actually photo of perhaps the original COA recipient on A4 sized envelope).
I have forwarded this name to Dora and await her reply.
Does the provenance trail mean anything if there is a PC COA already issued? Can the COAs be forged? Any instances?
This would be my first Banksy, and I want the history tight as a mosquito's ass.
If I ever need to resell--which I hope to as I upgrade to a signed Banksy some day!--being an American living in Japan lots of people would not buy from me on those grounds alone. I need pristine documentation.
Am I being unreasonable here? What would you do?
Any and all opinions welcomed.
Thanks and Best.
Let me get some advice, approaching this from the other side.
I have committed--assuming all paper trail is in order--to an unsigned early Banksy print that comes with COA. Before sending payment I contacted POW, Dora got back to me almost immediately, and said print is not registered to seller. Maybe it had changed hands and an owner never updated the file.
Dora asked for me to get names of previous owner(s)--to match with something in their database. Seller (with sterling ebay rep & possibly a forum member) did not know, got it from "some bloke" then later sent me a name (actually photo of perhaps the original COA recipient on A4 sized envelope).
I have forwarded this name to Dora and await her reply.
Does the provenance trail mean anything if there is a PC COA already issued? Can the COAs be forged? Any instances?
This would be my first Banksy, and I want the history tight as a mosquito's ass.
If I ever need to resell--which I hope to as I upgrade to a signed Banksy some day!--being an American living in Japan lots of people would not buy from me on those grounds alone. I need pristine documentation.
Am I being unreasonable here? What would you do?
Any and all opinions welcomed.
Thanks and Best.
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January 1970
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 14:09:25 GMT 1, Await Dora's reply and go from there. If she can't confirm details from the name and provided pictures (?) of the COA showing the numerics on the note, then best not proceed to be on the safe side.
Await Dora's reply and go from there. If she can't confirm details from the name and provided pictures (?) of the COA showing the numerics on the note, then best not proceed to be on the safe side.
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blobbydon
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by blobbydon on Apr 26, 2012 14:13:24 GMT 1, What is the email people contact them to change the COA ??
What is the email people contact them to change the COA ??
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 14:26:24 GMT 1, ddawg, good point.
Photos from seller showed only the red typewriter information, close up and clear, but not the Di-Tenner and numbers written on.
Funny, Dora did not ask to see that.
Full size photos in original listing show complete COA, but too small to make out the numbering.
ddawg, good point.
Photos from seller showed only the red typewriter information, close up and clear, but not the Di-Tenner and numbers written on.
Funny, Dora did not ask to see that.
Full size photos in original listing show complete COA, but too small to make out the numbering.
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January 1970
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 15:11:53 GMT 1, It's not one of the kazzy01234 golf sales is it ?
It's not one of the kazzy01234 golf sales is it ?
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January 1970
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 3:02:40 GMT 1, No, it's not. But thanks for bringing that up. Saw that listing a while back, kazzy. Looked suspicious and the feedback was spotty.
The seller on this print has great feedback, and some other nice pieces. Seems authentic. My records show I even got a Beejoir can a year or so back from him, people here might know his name.
Prefer not to give details, mainly for seller's privacy, etc.
Still no reply back from POW after submitting newest info. Unsettling to me after a couple immediate replies from Dora at the outset.
A big concern for me, again, is being a Yank living in Japan (Asia: Inscrutable Land of All Things Fake), I get grilled by potential buyers and need to have vivid airtight provenance.
Have an exquisite ZEVS CHANEL 2009--everything checks out, Lazarides blind stamp, crosschecked signatures with LV and H&S I have/had, seller--but would be jumping through hoops to sell that from here. I am trying to get some documentation help from Laz/Outsiders...nothing. Get better customer service in an American 7-11.
(I plan to not sell this print so point = moot, but that's my reality.)
No, it's not. But thanks for bringing that up. Saw that listing a while back, kazzy. Looked suspicious and the feedback was spotty.
The seller on this print has great feedback, and some other nice pieces. Seems authentic. My records show I even got a Beejoir can a year or so back from him, people here might know his name.
Prefer not to give details, mainly for seller's privacy, etc.
Still no reply back from POW after submitting newest info. Unsettling to me after a couple immediate replies from Dora at the outset.
A big concern for me, again, is being a Yank living in Japan (Asia: Inscrutable Land of All Things Fake), I get grilled by potential buyers and need to have vivid airtight provenance.
Have an exquisite ZEVS CHANEL 2009--everything checks out, Lazarides blind stamp, crosschecked signatures with LV and H&S I have/had, seller--but would be jumping through hoops to sell that from here. I am trying to get some documentation help from Laz/Outsiders...nothing. Get better customer service in an American 7-11.
(I plan to not sell this print so point = moot, but that's my reality.)
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linter
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April 2012
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by linter on Apr 27, 2012 9:32:03 GMT 1, btw / why couldn't some lowlife or other buy a banksy with a COA and then run off copies of both and sell a good bunch of them as originals that way? i mean, if someone can make phony currency, how hard could it be to make phony COAs? Am I missing something here?
btw / why couldn't some lowlife or other buy a banksy with a COA and then run off copies of both and sell a good bunch of them as originals that way? i mean, if someone can make phony currency, how hard could it be to make phony COAs? Am I missing something here?
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January 1970
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 11:25:30 GMT 1, That's my thinking and fear...
That's my thinking and fear...
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colinfishwick
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December 2010
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by colinfishwick on Apr 29, 2012 21:17:21 GMT 1, btw / why couldn't some lowlife or other buy a banksy with a COA and then run off copies of both and sell a good bunch of them as originals that way? i mean, if someone can make phony currency, how hard could it be to make phony COAs? Am I missing something here?
The first buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, the second buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, alarm bells will ring.
btw / why couldn't some lowlife or other buy a banksy with a COA and then run off copies of both and sell a good bunch of them as originals that way? i mean, if someone can make phony currency, how hard could it be to make phony COAs? Am I missing something here? The first buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, the second buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, alarm bells will ring. |
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January 1970
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by Deleted on Apr 30, 2012 3:57:07 GMT 1, btw / why couldn't some lowlife or other buy a banksy with a COA and then run off copies of both and sell a good bunch of them as originals that way? i mean, if someone can make phony currency, how hard could it be to make phony COAs? Am I missing something here? The first buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, the second buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, alarm bells will ring.
That makes sense, but the print I was looking at had not been registered by the current owner / seller, and looks like had not been by the owner before him.
In fact, the seller said it sounded strange to him that I would want it put into my name with POW upon purchase. That nowadays the PC COA is all anyone needs.
Do any of you who own pieces with PC COA also get the registration switched over to your name?
I clearly would want to do that.
btw / why couldn't some lowlife or other buy a banksy with a COA and then run off copies of both and sell a good bunch of them as originals that way? i mean, if someone can make phony currency, how hard could it be to make phony COAs? Am I missing something here? The first buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, the second buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, alarm bells will ring. That makes sense, but the print I was looking at had not been registered by the current owner / seller, and looks like had not been by the owner before him. In fact, the seller said it sounded strange to him that I would want it put into my name with POW upon purchase. That nowadays the PC COA is all anyone needs. Do any of you who own pieces with PC COA also get the registration switched over to your name? I clearly would want to do that. |
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kultur
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June 2010
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by kultur on Apr 30, 2012 4:24:26 GMT 1, I just bought a banksy from a great forum member who had PC coa and of course I still contacted PC to verify it and put me as the new owner. It is free and took 3 days, they even asked for more photos of the #. You use the same form as applying for a new coa.
The first buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, the second buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, alarm bells will ring. That makes sense, but the print I was looking at had not been registered by the current owner / seller, and looks like had not been by the owner before him. In fact, the seller said it sounded strange to him that I would want it put into my name with POW upon purchase. That nowadays the PC COA is all anyone needs. Do any of you who own pieces with PC COA also get the registration switched over to your name? I clearly would want to do that.
I just bought a banksy from a great forum member who had PC coa and of course I still contacted PC to verify it and put me as the new owner. It is free and took 3 days, they even asked for more photos of the #. You use the same form as applying for a new coa. The first buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, the second buyer will register their details with PoW to update the owner register, alarm bells will ring. That makes sense, but the print I was looking at had not been registered by the current owner / seller, and looks like had not been by the owner before him. In fact, the seller said it sounded strange to him that I would want it put into my name with POW upon purchase. That nowadays the PC COA is all anyone needs. Do any of you who own pieces with PC COA also get the registration switched over to your name? I clearly would want to do that. |
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confused2
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need quick price check: CYW, signed, no coa, by confused2 on Apr 30, 2012 9:47:08 GMT 1, I've always transferred ownership once I've taken receipt of a print. The sooner it's in your name the better.
I've always transferred ownership once I've taken receipt of a print. The sooner it's in your name the better.
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