Dolk Che Canvas

[saint]

Dec 28, 2011 16:32:08 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

His work does sell very well, I think that says a lot.

Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend?

It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it and the interest from people in Norway made prices go up....

[sfinks]

I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable.

Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest".

[sfinks]

Dec 27, 2011 18:31:05 GMT 1 linderman said:

I'm thinking of selling due to me needing the money, how much do you reckon its worth?

Its a: 1/1, 100 x 70cm, receipt of purchase..

Have a potential buyer for you, will take it in PM from here.

[saint]

Dec 28, 2011 16:41:14 GMT 1 sfinks said:

I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable.

Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest".

Again each to their own, but i think those comparing dolk to banksy arent really aware that their elbow and ass look different...

Dolk is much more similar to Blek IMO, its about images, not messages. (in the main part, obviously some of his work has messages, as does Bleks).

IMO of course, just my thoughts, and as mentioned i like some of dolks work, certainly zooicide has a strong message.

[pelle]

Dec 28, 2011 17:05:01 GMT 1 saint said:

Again each to their own, but i think those comparing dolk to banksy arent really aware that their elbow and ass look different...

Dolk is much more similar to Blek IMO, its about images, not messages. (in the main part, obviously some of his work has messages, as does Bleks).

IMO of course, just my thoughts, and as mentioned i like some of dolks work, certainly zooicide has a strong message.

I was with you until the last part. What "strong message" do you find in zooicide? To me it just looks like another tired visual pun involving a banana.

[saint]

to me its about the plight of animals in captivity dude, maybe not to others, but to me it suggests how captivity, zoo's and similar are destroying our natural world and taking our animals away from where they should be....

Just my 2c on it of course....

[soundwavebeatbox]

have last mona and it looks brillant framed. will post some pics in the next few weeks.
also have shrnk was looking for that one everyday for about 8 months i also think thats a brillant print, but like you said each to there own. i think Dolk is a fantastic artist and every one will be surprised in a few years at how well hes doing but thats my opinon.
what do you reckon about eelus nesbaw. on verge of getting one.
cheers mate

[pelle]

Dec 28, 2011 17:12:56 GMT 1 saint said:

to me its about the plight of animals in captivity dude, maybe not to others, but to me it suggests how captivity, zoo's and similar are destroying our natural world and taking our animals away from where they should be....

Just my 2c on it of course....

ok, but how can you tell from the image that the chimp is in captivity?

Edit: Oh, I guess it is in the title?

[saint]

i cant matey, just my thoughts when i look at it....

edit - yeah the title gives it away! still, he looks sad, like animals do in rubbish zoos.

Another edit - no disrespect to zoo's, or those that work in them, unless you are a rubbish zoo/work in a rubbish zoo, in which case lots of disrespect meant, sort it out. Enrichment programs etc.

[soundwavebeatbox]

OI I WORK IN A ZOO

haha jokes forts on eelus not everythings so black and white.

[sfinks]

This is what i love about clean stencil street art. Its not a 100% clear statement, its up for personal opinions and can be meaningful in many directions.

One of my favorite replicates these days is Greece girl with Euro
www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=271405012916705&set=pu.127611693962705&type=1&theater

[saint]

Dec 28, 2011 17:26:04 GMT 1 @soundwavebeatbox said:

OI I WORK IN A ZOO

haha jokes forts on eelus not everythings so black and white.

I actually worked in woburn safari park in the monkey enclosure in my youth, they have quite a good enrichment program.... or they did when i was there anyways, and i'm sure its a lot better now....

Buy what you like and dont let other people influence what you buy Cal, best advise i can give you matey...

[Daniel Silk]

Dec 28, 2011 16:36:35 GMT 1 saint said:

Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend?

It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it

Is that about Banksy or Dolk?

[freeview]

Dec 28, 2011 17:32:37 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

Dec 28, 2011 16:36:35 GMT 1 saint said:

Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend?

It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it

Is that about Banksy or Dolk?

or dran

[Deleted]

Dec 28, 2011 15:51:14 GMT 1 @soundwavebeatbox said:

Dolks work is just going to keep going up, my opinion but i really do thnk in 5 years time some of hs classic good stuff will be worth alot.
good luck with the sale

**Beat Box Disclaimer - I have bought a load of his stuff at the top end price point and I desperately hope I am I right, otherwise I have been stuffed!

***Little Hugh Disclaimer - I am not buying this "price hike", especially as I am looking for a Dolk Police line and don't want to spend silly money of hyped prices!!

[craigf]

Dec 28, 2011 16:14:37 GMT 1 @soundwavebeatbox said:

still need Zooicide. would swap my mr jago canvas for zoocide. i want it that bad.
cheers

If I hadn't sold my zooicide a while back I'd be all over this if it's a serious offer.

[soundwavebeatbox]

yeah i sooo want one but i have agread now to swap my mr jago for eelus not everythings so black and white.
im after banksy nola now whats the price for an unsgned one of these?
also are they hard to get hold off?
cheers

[maumau93]

made a bit of a loss on that then aint ya...

[saint]

Dec 28, 2011 17:32:37 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

Dec 28, 2011 16:36:35 GMT 1 saint said:

Does it? what exactly does it say? that people can follow trend?

It didnt actually sell that well until people started hyping it

Is that about Banksy or Dolk?

Fair enough!

If after a fair few years his work is still selling at high prices, ala banksy, i will happily eat my words and apologise to all..... Until then it remains in my eyes not a valid commentary on the quality of his work, but is more to do with the hype atm. Again, i do like some of dolks work, but it has happened before..... (See Nick Walker, Blek, Beejoir etc).

EDIT - i like beejoir, blek and nick walkers work, no disrespect to any of them, all key figures in the scene IMO, just talking price fluctuation due to hype.

Again, this is just my opinion and i will happily be proved wrong.

[bernard]

Dec 28, 2011 13:50:29 GMT 1 saint said:

BTW 10k is bonkers IMO.

For this i would say that 1k is too much imo imo imo, wouldnt pay more than 500 meself.

Word.

[boatyyy]

i have an original dolk prison painter and i'll try to describe some reactions received from visitors (none who are into art collecting, of any sort - and would never pay a cent for any of it):

- from the guy who was repairing and painting the walls in a room of my home: "oh my god, that is a beautiful painting; that's me; wow..." - i gather he saw a wall painter;

- a good friend, who just came out of prison, came to visit: "that's cool, but not sure about the stripes; - not sure you should put that there for people to see when they come over..."- he was advising me on location (really nice guy - hope he stays out of trouble)...

-my elderly uncle was over to dinner and it was sitting on the mantle in the dining room: "tell that guy in that picture there's no smoking in here..." - simply because the hand was near the sidepocket (i whispered to his wife, my aunt, that his glasses def needed checking...)

-me myself, an idiot art buyer, when i first saw it - it took me one second to decide (but that's how i decide on art generally anyways) - i saw the prisons we create for ourselves (at the time of purchase, i was in a mental zone where i was questioning why i had put myself in a situation i created...and i had a couple of bucks to burn)

now, what the artist intended - may never know... this "art" stuff cracks me up...

(except for the piece that Banksy now has at the Walker gallery - count myself blessed to be in an age of when it was created - one of the greatest pieces of art, ever...)

true story... sorry, i'm not sure why i wrote this in this thread...

[soundwavebeatbox]

haha enjoyed reading that.
yeah i have eelus is still worth £800 thou so only £75 not to bad

[fingerz]

it's ok boatyyy , i'll get your coat ....

[Harveyn]

Dec 28, 2011 16:41:14 GMT 1 sfinks said:

I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable.

Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest".

One of the biggest? Not OS Gemeos, Barry McGee, Swoon, Keith Haring, Shepard Fairey, Kaws and the list goes on.

[sfinks]

Dec 28, 2011 20:17:33 GMT 1 Harveyn said:

Dec 28, 2011 16:41:14 GMT 1 sfinks said:

I guess some compare Dolk with Banksy and as we all know Banksys are too expensive for most, Dolks are still affordable.

Also street art has allot of new customers these days, who haven't heard of all the other good artists, and just want a nice clean street art piece from "one of the biggest".

One of the biggest? Not OS Gemeos, Barry McGee, Swoon, Keith Haring, Shepard Fairey, Kaws and the list goes on.

Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Blek Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons.
But in Norway Dolk is considered as a big one obviously.

But what do we measure "big" in?
Sale, price, publicity, demand?

Keep in mind, the artists in your list are all americans or based in the US, so they are bigger there then in EU. Same with EU art vs US i guess.

[rottenredrooster]

Thought I'd give my two cents worth... As much as I like Dolk. I think the hype conjured up by the Norwegian press about investing money is going to come to nothing and to those who think he's the next big thing, have a look around at the other great artists blossoming.

At the end of the day Norway has the forth highest income in the world, so a large percentage have the ability over there to buy it all up adding to the hype.

If I was holding onto Dolk in vain hope that they would one day be worth, as someone put it 'a lot in five years', I would offload it right now.

Anyway just my opinion on the matter.

[sfinks]

Dec 28, 2011 20:50:13 GMT 1 kimble said:

Dec 28, 2011 20:31:12 GMT 1 sfinks said:

Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Black Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons.
But in Norway Dolk is considered as a big one obviously.

But what do we measure "big" in?
Sale, price, publicity, demand?

Keep in mind, the artists in your list are all americans or based in the US, so they are bigger there then in EU. Same with EU art vs US i guess.

Os Gemeos are not from or based in the US. Do you even know what you're talking about?

That was only one of them and he is from SOUTH america. So for me thats at least not EU.
Why the hostile approach? No im no expert, and no i dont know every artist.
What is your point?

[sfinks]

Dec 28, 2011 21:38:54 GMT 1 rottenredrooster said:

Thought I'd give my two cents worth... As much as I like Dolk. I think the hype conjured up by the Norwegian press about investing money is going to come to nothing and to those who think he's the next big thing, have a look around at the other great artists blossoming.

At the end of the day Norway has the forth highest income in the world, so a large percentage have the ability over there to buy it all up adding to the hype.

If I was holding onto Dolk in vain hope that they would one day be worth, as someone put it 'a lot in five years', I would offload it right now.

Anyway just my opinion on the matter.

Agree on everything there.
All I’m saying is that the demand for some pieces is huge now, therefor the prices are extreme. Not saying he will be the next Banksy, only that some consider some of his pieces very attractive.
One example is that Dolk was painting his work INSIDE the walls of the world most modern prison(Halden prison) witch he was payed a huge amount for.
Nuart is arranged very near his birth town.

So i can see why he is so big in Norway, and not the rest of the world.

[pelle]

Dec 28, 2011 20:31:12 GMT 1 sfinks said:

Dec 28, 2011 20:17:33 GMT 1 Harveyn said:

One of the biggest? Not OS Gemeos, Barry McGee, Swoon, Keith Haring, Shepard Fairey, Kaws and the list goes on.

Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Black Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons.

Who is that? Another Norwegian artist?

[sfinks]

Dec 28, 2011 22:57:07 GMT 1 pelle said:

Dec 28, 2011 20:31:12 GMT 1 sfinks said:

Offcorse one can argue who is big or not. Personally i would say Black Le Rat is the biggest for historical reasons.

Who is that? Another Norwegian artist?

Hehe, no

I am very sorry for my misspell. I ment offcorse Blek Le Rat
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blek_le_Rat