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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by manchestermike on Jul 12, 2007 22:10:18 GMT 1, Do you really think there would have been the same scramble to get this print and that it would have sold out in minutes if people didn't think they'd be able to flip it and profit from it? Really?
I would have done... I've a lot of Beejoir's work. I don't care what it's worth, I've bought it as I love it... every single piece so far has been a classic
Every single one...
Do you really think there would have been the same scramble to get this print and that it would have sold out in minutes if people didn't think they'd be able to flip it and profit from it? Really? I would have done... I've a lot of Beejoir's work. I don't care what it's worth, I've bought it as I love it... every single piece so far has been a classic Every single one... |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by mp on Jul 12, 2007 22:10:39 GMT 1, Look, I think I've made my point pretty clear as to why I want this print and how much it means to me on a personal level in my previous posts. To me, as a collector, I love it and that's all that matters.
I'm sure(and frightened) that people bought it with the plan to sell it quickly for a ton of money and they probably will. But also understand there are real fans of this piece and Beejoir's work. And to top it all off, there are only forty of them out there... sigh.
Look, I think I've made my point pretty clear as to why I want this print and how much it means to me on a personal level in my previous posts. To me, as a collector, I love it and that's all that matters.
I'm sure(and frightened) that people bought it with the plan to sell it quickly for a ton of money and they probably will. But also understand there are real fans of this piece and Beejoir's work. And to top it all off, there are only forty of them out there... sigh.
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by johnas on Jul 12, 2007 22:14:59 GMT 1, the 'Blood for Oil' slogan is not new and has inspired plenty of art/political images... check out www.artnotoil.org.uk
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by carlito on Jul 12, 2007 22:15:24 GMT 1, Right, just because the iraq war has lasted 10 years or so and that we live in a shocking world doesn't mean that the print is interesting. The slogan no blood for oil is old, tired and cliché. But not as cliche as literally screenprinting an oil company logo on Iraqi dollar bills. Yeah, woo, that's real thought provoking and deep. That is so painfully straightforward and obvious. Everyone knows that already. Who cares. I don't need a print about it. It has less of the wry wittiness or original thoughts that I've seen used in commercial anti-war adverts yet people are willing to pay 100 hundred times more for it becasue it's "signed." 
lol dg if you really tried I'm sure u could be condescending ha ha me simple need straightforward image
pretty much all those images johnas posted above actually show how great an image Beejoir's is because it works better than them
Right, just because the iraq war has lasted 10 years or so and that we live in a shocking world doesn't mean that the print is interesting. The slogan no blood for oil is old, tired and cliché. But not as cliche as literally screenprinting an oil company logo on Iraqi dollar bills. Yeah, woo, that's real thought provoking and deep. That is so painfully straightforward and obvious. Everyone knows that already. Who cares. I don't need a print about it. It has less of the wry wittiness or original thoughts that I've seen used in commercial anti-war adverts yet people are willing to pay 100 hundred times more for it becasue it's "signed." lol dg if you really tried I'm sure u could be condescending ha ha me simple need straightforward image pretty much all those images johnas posted above actually show how great an image Beejoir's is because it works better than them |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by dave313perry on Jul 12, 2007 22:17:19 GMT 1, What is there that is original? show me something...
What is there that is original? show me something... |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by dgb133 on Jul 12, 2007 22:25:22 GMT 1, Well I've never been know to mince my words ;D
Sorry to offend. Hey I work in advertising and I see stuff that's so much more witty, deep and wry everyday. And because I also work in advertising I'm used to both giving and recieving pretty critical feedback. Sorry, I'm usually light on the congratulatory backslapping. My own flaw I know.
Hey this is just my opinon. I'm sure I own some art that you would think is dumb boring or whatever. I'm just giving you my two cents. But in my opinon, I've seen much better political poster and commentary in tons of graphic design mags.
But you really have to admit that people here are all wrapped up in how much money there SBFO and "Beejoir" work will be worth one day. You don't think that is having any influence on people's opinions? You don't think people are less critical of it maybe because of that? I think so. I like some of his other prints. But I'm going to call a spade a spade too.
Well I've never been know to mince my words ;D Sorry to offend. Hey I work in advertising and I see stuff that's so much more witty, deep and wry everyday. And because I also work in advertising I'm used to both giving and recieving pretty critical feedback. Sorry, I'm usually light on the congratulatory backslapping. My own flaw I know. Hey this is just my opinon. I'm sure I own some art that you would think is dumb boring or whatever. I'm just giving you my two cents. But in my opinon, I've seen much better political poster and commentary in tons of graphic design mags. But you really have to admit that people here are all wrapped up in how much money there SBFO and "Beejoir" work will be worth one day. You don't think that is having any influence on people's opinions? You don't think people are less critical of it maybe because of that? I think so. I like some of his other prints. But I'm going to call a spade a spade too. |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by jam on Jul 12, 2007 22:26:32 GMT 1, And you don't think anyone here is influenced about their desire for this print because there is all this talk and hype that it will be worth as much as a signed Banksy? Do you really think there would have been the same scramble to get this print and that it would have sold out in minutes if people didn't think they'd be able to flip it and profit from it? Really?
In a word... yes. I don't think most of the people here give a shit if it is going to be worth what a signed Banksy is, the people who bought this print have bought other work by Beejoir and those fans are staying with him and watching his work evolve. There would absolutely have been the same scramble regardless of potential profit... did you happen to see the unsigned edition of the LV child and how quickly that sold out? What percentage of those do you think were bought by baggers and what percentage was of people hounding, begging, and pleading with Beej to release it in any form so long as there were enough to fill at least part of the huge demand that print commands?
And you don't think anyone here is influenced about their desire for this print because there is all this talk and hype that it will be worth as much as a signed Banksy? Do you really think there would have been the same scramble to get this print and that it would have sold out in minutes if people didn't think they'd be able to flip it and profit from it? Really? In a word... yes. I don't think most of the people here give a shit if it is going to be worth what a signed Banksy is, the people who bought this print have bought other work by Beejoir and those fans are staying with him and watching his work evolve. There would absolutely have been the same scramble regardless of potential profit... did you happen to see the unsigned edition of the LV child and how quickly that sold out? What percentage of those do you think were bought by baggers and what percentage was of people hounding, begging, and pleading with Beej to release it in any form so long as there were enough to fill at least part of the huge demand that print commands? |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by dgb133 on Jul 12, 2007 22:30:42 GMT 1,
Then why are so many people here saying it will be worth as much as a signed Banksy one day? Why all the statistics?
Then why are so many people here saying it will be worth as much as a signed Banksy one day? Why all the statistics?
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by johnas on Jul 12, 2007 22:40:11 GMT 1, the topic of blood for oil isn't new but beejoir's execution of the 'dinar' piece is top notch. For something v simplistic, it commuicates oil, death, war and capitalism succinctly. I passed on this print though becuase it lacked that 'certain something' that Beejoir's other pieces invoked. LV & TS made me think - hell, LV stops you dead in your tracks! It's this ability to stimulate the emotions and make you think, that puts Beejoir up there as one of my favourite artists.
SBFO communicates a message and is well executed but isn't thought provoking imo.
the topic of blood for oil isn't new but beejoir's execution of the 'dinar' piece is top notch. For something v simplistic, it commuicates oil, death, war and capitalism succinctly. I passed on this print though becuase it lacked that 'certain something' that Beejoir's other pieces invoked. LV & TS made me think - hell, LV stops you dead in your tracks! It's this ability to stimulate the emotions and make you think, that puts Beejoir up there as one of my favourite artists.
SBFO communicates a message and is well executed but isn't thought provoking imo.
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by dave313perry on Jul 12, 2007 22:54:17 GMT 1, Ok lets not get too excited here. Bejoir's prints are not going to be worth the same as a signed Banksy. Forget that idea. That ain't happening. Bejoir compliments Banksy beautifully. I'm sure he does work that Banksy him self admires (and buys). But lets not start placing expectations on him that are just frankly impossible. Bejoirs art may be more more sincere than Banksy's, it might have more integrity, it might also have more idealogical continuity. However banksy represents an army of sabvertisers, a new genre and a generation. Bejoir can't compete with that and nor should he be pitted against it. Allow him to be him self and enjoy his work on its own merrits.
great call and very reasonable as ever- although 2 E's in Beejoir 
Ok lets not get too excited here. Bejoir's prints are not going to be worth the same as a signed Banksy. Forget that idea. That ain't happening. Bejoir compliments Banksy beautifully. I'm sure he does work that Banksy him self admires (and buys). But lets not start placing expectations on him that are just frankly impossible. Bejoirs art may be more more sincere than Banksy's, it might have more integrity, it might also have more idealogical continuity. However banksy represents an army of sabvertisers, a new genre and a generation. Bejoir can't compete with that and nor should he be pitted against it. Allow him to be him self and enjoy his work on its own merrits. great call and very reasonable as ever- although 2 E's in Beejoir |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by johnas on Jul 12, 2007 22:56:29 GMT 1, Ok lets not get too excited here. Bejoir's prints are not going to be worth the same as a signed Banksy. Forget that idea. That ain't happening. Bejoir compliments Banksy beautifully. I'm sure he does work that Banksy him self admires (and buys). But lets not start placing expectations on him that are just frankly impossible. Bejoirs art may be more more sincere than Banksy's, it might have more integrity, it might also have more idealogical continuity. However banksy represents an army of sabvertisers, a new genre and a generation. Bejoir can't compete with that and nor should he be pitted against it. Allow him to be him self and enjoy his work on its own merrits.
i'll drink to that. how does next Thursday evening sound? anyone busy? ;D ;D
Ok lets not get too excited here. Bejoir's prints are not going to be worth the same as a signed Banksy. Forget that idea. That ain't happening. Bejoir compliments Banksy beautifully. I'm sure he does work that Banksy him self admires (and buys). But lets not start placing expectations on him that are just frankly impossible. Bejoirs art may be more more sincere than Banksy's, it might have more integrity, it might also have more idealogical continuity. However banksy represents an army of sabvertisers, a new genre and a generation. Bejoir can't compete with that and nor should he be pitted against it. Allow him to be him self and enjoy his work on its own merrits. i'll drink to that. how does next Thursday evening sound? anyone busy? ;D ;D |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by finsburyparkranger on Jul 12, 2007 23:03:40 GMT 1, Ok lets not get too excited here. Bejoir's prints are not going to be worth the same as a signed Banksy. Forget that idea. That ain't happening. Bejoir compliments Banksy beautifully. I'm sure he does work that Banksy him self admires (and buys). But lets not start placing expectations on him that are just frankly impossible. Bejoirs art may be more more sincere than Banksy's, it might have more integrity, it might also have more idealogical continuity. However banksy represents an army of sabvertisers, a new genre and a generation. Bejoir can't compete with that and nor should he be pitted against it. Allow him to be him self and enjoy his work on its own merrits. i'll drink to that. how does next Thursday evening sound? anyone busy? ;D ;D
Can't wait. Going to be soooo funny meeting the likes of Curley and CBL in the flesh.
Ok lets not get too excited here. Bejoir's prints are not going to be worth the same as a signed Banksy. Forget that idea. That ain't happening. Bejoir compliments Banksy beautifully. I'm sure he does work that Banksy him self admires (and buys). But lets not start placing expectations on him that are just frankly impossible. Bejoirs art may be more more sincere than Banksy's, it might have more integrity, it might also have more idealogical continuity. However banksy represents an army of sabvertisers, a new genre and a generation. Bejoir can't compete with that and nor should he be pitted against it. Allow him to be him self and enjoy his work on its own merrits. i'll drink to that. how does next Thursday evening sound? anyone busy? ;D ;D Can't wait. Going to be soooo funny meeting the likes of Curley and CBL in the flesh. |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by dgb133 on Jul 12, 2007 23:04:11 GMT 1, I'll just say for example Banksy's greenpeace poster. Thought provoking, sad, and funny all at once. Not so literal. A+
Kennard's Haywain print. Wry witty, offbeat, thought provoking and if that's not an original idea I don't know... but it's much more original than SBFO, sorry. A++
I'm not trying to offend the Beejoir fans out there. I'm just giving my comments. This is art damm*t. Haven't any of you guys been to art school before. It's brutal. I've seen students cry. But really it's about being honest and constructive. If my phrasing is offensive apologies. Again just my opinion. It's in no way fact.
I'll just say for example Banksy's greenpeace poster. Thought provoking, sad, and funny all at once. Not so literal. A+
Kennard's Haywain print. Wry witty, offbeat, thought provoking and if that's not an original idea I don't know... but it's much more original than SBFO, sorry. A++
I'm not trying to offend the Beejoir fans out there. I'm just giving my comments. This is art damm*t. Haven't any of you guys been to art school before. It's brutal. I've seen students cry. But really it's about being honest and constructive. If my phrasing is offensive apologies. Again just my opinion. It's in no way fact.
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by RBK on Jul 12, 2007 23:06:43 GMT 1, Do you really think there would have been the same scramble to get this print and that it would have sold out in minutes if people didn't think they'd be able to flip it and profit from it? Really?
Yes - because Beejoir is a damn good artist, SOS is a great small business run by fun people passionate about street art, and most importantly people like his work.
Also agree it is pointless to compare Beejoir to Banksy. There are TONS of stencil/street artists from the UK. Beejoir's career is just starting out (remember he's only done 3 print images so far!) and quite simply, people like his work. There are always going to be people in it just for the money whether it's for established artists like Banksy/Hirst/etc. or up & coming talent like Beejoir/Mantis/insert-your-favorite-street-artist here.
Do you really think there would have been the same scramble to get this print and that it would have sold out in minutes if people didn't think they'd be able to flip it and profit from it? Really? Yes - because Beejoir is a damn good artist, SOS is a great small business run by fun people passionate about street art, and most importantly people like his work. Also agree it is pointless to compare Beejoir to Banksy. There are TONS of stencil/street artists from the UK. Beejoir's career is just starting out (remember he's only done 3 print images so far!) and quite simply, people like his work. There are always going to be people in it just for the money whether it's for established artists like Banksy/Hirst/etc. or up & coming talent like Beejoir/Mantis/insert-your-favorite-street-artist here. |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by mp on Jul 12, 2007 23:09:41 GMT 1, Have to say that I'm glad this thread has created such an interesting debate. I don't agree with your feelings about the piece itself dgb, but I do believe that there are people who have gotten into the print game solely for the money. That's not why I'm after SBFO, but I'm sure that others are. Look at how many Banksys go on Ebay the day they arrive from POW. It's just a reality that we have to face in this world and it simply sucks for the rest of us, who would actually want to frame it and put it on our walls, that we end up paying inflated prices.
I'm all for debating the subject as long as we want, but I'll still throw out my pathetic pitch that haven't gotten any offers of people who might be willing to trade for my Morons yet. If you have an SBFO and are interested in trading it or selling it, PM me with what you're looking for(within reason) and we'll talk. I have a lot of pieces, just felt that Morons was a nice and very even trade, so I offered it up.
Have to say that I'm glad this thread has created such an interesting debate. I don't agree with your feelings about the piece itself dgb, but I do believe that there are people who have gotten into the print game solely for the money. That's not why I'm after SBFO, but I'm sure that others are. Look at how many Banksys go on Ebay the day they arrive from POW. It's just a reality that we have to face in this world and it simply sucks for the rest of us, who would actually want to frame it and put it on our walls, that we end up paying inflated prices.
I'm all for debating the subject as long as we want, but I'll still throw out my pathetic pitch that haven't gotten any offers of people who might be willing to trade for my Morons yet. If you have an SBFO and are interested in trading it or selling it, PM me with what you're looking for(within reason) and we'll talk. I have a lot of pieces, just felt that Morons was a nice and very even trade, so I offered it up.
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by mp on Jul 12, 2007 23:12:21 GMT 1, Comment of the day, Dave. Plus one for that.
Comment of the day, Dave. Plus one for that.
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by dgb133 on Jul 12, 2007 23:13:59 GMT 1, No Blood for Oil? How about No Art for Money?
No Blood for Oil? How about No Art for Money?
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by carlito on Jul 12, 2007 23:15:44 GMT 1, Well I've never been know to mince my words ;D Sorry to offend. Hey I work in advertising and I see stuff that's so much more witty, deep and wry everyday. And because I also work in advertising I'm used to both giving and recieving pretty critical feedback. Sorry, I'm usually light on the congratulatory backslapping. My own flaw I know. Hey this is just my opinon. I'm sure I own some art that you would think is dumb boring or whatever. I'm just giving you my two cents. But in my opinon, I've seen much better political poster and commentary in tons of graphic design mags. But you really have to admit that people here are all wrapped up in how much money there SBFO and "Beejoir" work will be worth one day. You don't think that is having any influence on people's opinions? You don't think people are less critical of it maybe because of that? I think so. I like some of his other prints. But I'm going to call a spade a spade too.
lol thought i recognised your 'tone' one of my best friends teachers advertising in New York for his sins! happy to let you have your opinion and i'll have mine after what is a forum if ppl can't express a difference of opinion...and my opinion is that its a simple striking image that too me works incredibly well and i know that at the end of the day i'll enjoy it on my wall
Well I've never been know to mince my words ;D Sorry to offend. Hey I work in advertising and I see stuff that's so much more witty, deep and wry everyday. And because I also work in advertising I'm used to both giving and recieving pretty critical feedback. Sorry, I'm usually light on the congratulatory backslapping. My own flaw I know. Hey this is just my opinon. I'm sure I own some art that you would think is dumb boring or whatever. I'm just giving you my two cents. But in my opinon, I've seen much better political poster and commentary in tons of graphic design mags. But you really have to admit that people here are all wrapped up in how much money there SBFO and "Beejoir" work will be worth one day. You don't think that is having any influence on people's opinions? You don't think people are less critical of it maybe because of that? I think so. I like some of his other prints. But I'm going to call a spade a spade too. lol thought i recognised your 'tone' one of my best friends teachers advertising in New York for his sins! happy to let you have your opinion and i'll have mine after what is a forum if ppl can't express a difference of opinion...and my opinion is that its a simple striking image that too me works incredibly well and i know that at the end of the day i'll enjoy it on my wall |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by dgb133 on Jul 12, 2007 23:19:17 GMT 1,
It's what makes the world go round. One things for sure, Beejoirs art sells for more than mine. Ho hum.
It's what makes the world go round. One things for sure, Beejoirs art sells for more than mine. Ho hum. |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by RBK on Jul 12, 2007 23:20:16 GMT 1, No Blood for Oil? How about No Art for Money?
One of my favorite quotes:
"Art is about life, the art market is about money" - Damien Hirst
No Blood for Oil? How about No Art for Money? One of my favorite quotes: "Art is about life, the art market is about money" - Damien Hirst |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by carlito on Jul 12, 2007 23:21:52 GMT 1, No Blood for Oil? How about No Art for Money? One of my favorite quotes: "Art is about life, the art market is about money" - Damien Hirst
don't get me started on Hirst...
No Blood for Oil? How about No Art for Money? One of my favorite quotes: "Art is about life, the art market is about money" - Damien Hirst don't get me started on Hirst... |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by finsburyparkranger on Jul 12, 2007 23:22:12 GMT 1, Kennard's Haywain print. Wry witty, offbeat, thought provoking and if that's not an original idea I don't know... but it's much more original than SBFO, sorry. A++
Thats my point though. Bejoir is not the forefather of his own genre. So he can't be uniquely original. Thats why its unfair to have these expectations on him. He is however doing great things within the paradigm that Blek/ banksy created. But asking him to fight in the same ring as them is just silly. They're not fighting in his competion, if anything they're towling him down in his corner of the ring, splashing water on him and egging him on to come out fighting after the bell.
Kennard's Haywain print. Wry witty, offbeat, thought provoking and if that's not an original idea I don't know... but it's much more original than SBFO, sorry. A++ Thats my point though. Bejoir is not the forefather of his own genre. So he can't be uniquely original. Thats why its unfair to have these expectations on him. He is however doing great things within the paradigm that Blek/ banksy created. But asking him to fight in the same ring as them is just silly. They're not fighting in his competion, if anything they're towling him down in his corner of the ring, splashing water on him and egging him on to come out fighting after the bell. |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by RBK on Jul 12, 2007 23:23:32 GMT 1, Great discussion guys - refreshing to see different opinions being expressed with no personal insults and respect-dinging.
Great discussion guys - refreshing to see different opinions being expressed with no personal insults and respect-dinging.
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by carlito on Jul 12, 2007 23:24:09 GMT 1, Kennard's Haywain print. Wry witty, offbeat, thought provoking and if that's not an original idea I don't know... but it's much more original than SBFO, sorry. A++ Thats my point though. Bejoir is not the forefather of his own genre. So he can't be uniquely original. Thats why its unfair to have these expectations on him. He is however doing great things within the paradigm that Blek/ banksy created. But asking him to fight in the same ring as them is just silly. They're not fighting in his competion, if anything they're towling him down in his corner of the ring, splashing water on him and egging him on to come out fighting after the bell.
cheers for that FPR i've now got a well dodgy homo erotic thing going on in my head lol
Kennard's Haywain print. Wry witty, offbeat, thought provoking and if that's not an original idea I don't know... but it's much more original than SBFO, sorry. A++ Thats my point though. Bejoir is not the forefather of his own genre. So he can't be uniquely original. Thats why its unfair to have these expectations on him. He is however doing great things within the paradigm that Blek/ banksy created. But asking him to fight in the same ring as them is just silly. They're not fighting in his competion, if anything they're towling him down in his corner of the ring, splashing water on him and egging him on to come out fighting after the bell. cheers for that FPR i've now got a well dodgy homo erotic thing going on in my head lol |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by Curley on Jul 12, 2007 23:30:30 GMT 1, i'll drink to that. how does next Thursday evening sound? anyone busy? ;D ;D Can't wait. Going to be soooo funny meeting the likes of Curley and CBL in the flesh.
;D ;D ;D ;D
i'll drink to that. how does next Thursday evening sound? anyone busy? ;D ;D Can't wait. Going to be soooo funny meeting the likes of Curley and CBL in the flesh. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by finsburyparkranger on Jul 12, 2007 23:40:43 GMT 1, Thats my point though. Beejoir is not the forefather of his own genre. So he can't be uniquely original. Thats why its unfair to have these expectations on him. He is however doing great things within the paradigm that Blek/ banksy created. But asking him to fight in the same ring as them is just silly. They're not fighting in his competion, if anything they're towling him down in his corner of the ring, splashing water on him and egging him on to come out fighting after the bell. cheers for that FPR i've now got a well dodgy homo erotic thing going on in my head lol
Quite a funny visual huh? The creative side is coming out after a few free beers from the forster gallery show. Nice event, loads a booze, some nice art but not on par with art at stolen spaces or the kennard show. Although I'm getting the feeling that these pre-views are never going to feel the same after 'found' ;D.
PS Whilst I'm on the subject, Frankie get some music on the go at least for later on. All these other previews have been begging for some tunes but failed miserably on this front.
EDIT: Curley - Sort him out. ;D
Thats my point though. Beejoir is not the forefather of his own genre. So he can't be uniquely original. Thats why its unfair to have these expectations on him. He is however doing great things within the paradigm that Blek/ banksy created. But asking him to fight in the same ring as them is just silly. They're not fighting in his competion, if anything they're towling him down in his corner of the ring, splashing water on him and egging him on to come out fighting after the bell. cheers for that FPR i've now got a well dodgy homo erotic thing going on in my head lol Quite a funny visual huh? The creative side is coming out after a few free beers from the forster gallery show. Nice event, loads a booze, some nice art but not on par with art at stolen spaces or the kennard show. Although I'm getting the feeling that these pre-views are never going to feel the same after 'found' ;D. PS Whilst I'm on the subject, Frankie get some music on the go at least for later on. All these other previews have been begging for some tunes but failed miserably on this front. EDIT: Curley - Sort him out. ;D |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by johnerotten on Jul 13, 2007 0:37:17 GMT 1, yeah i mean no offense to beejoir or his fans, but its not that complicated of a piece. its a good idea, but as stated earlier, a bit obvious, plus i wouldn't want a big Shell on my wall.
Having said that, i don't have any art for sale of my own creation so kudos to him.
Comparing Banksy to Beejoir is crazy though, but then again, i don't like most of the crap that others rave about on here so what do i know.
The beauty of art is that it only matters what the owner thinks. If you like SBFO then buy it and love it. ;D
I'll just say for example Banksy's greenpeace poster. Thought provoking, sad, and funny all at once. Not so literal. A+ Kennard's Haywain print. Wry witty, offbeat, thought provoking and if that's not an original idea I don't know... but it's much more original than SBFO, sorry. A++ I'm not trying to offend the Beejoir fans out there. I'm just giving my comments. This is art damm*t. Haven't any of you guys been to art school before. It's brutal. I've seen students cry. But really it's about being honest and constructive. If my phrasing is offensive apologies. Again just my opinion. It's in no way fact.
yeah i mean no offense to beejoir or his fans, but its not that complicated of a piece. its a good idea, but as stated earlier, a bit obvious, plus i wouldn't want a big Shell on my wall. Having said that, i don't have any art for sale of my own creation so kudos to him. Comparing Banksy to Beejoir is crazy though, but then again, i don't like most of the crap that others rave about on here so what do i know. The beauty of art is that it only matters what the owner thinks. If you like SBFO then buy it and love it. ;D I'll just say for example Banksy's greenpeace poster. Thought provoking, sad, and funny all at once. Not so literal. A+ Kennard's Haywain print. Wry witty, offbeat, thought provoking and if that's not an original idea I don't know... but it's much more original than SBFO, sorry. A++ I'm not trying to offend the Beejoir fans out there. I'm just giving my comments. This is art damm*t. Haven't any of you guys been to art school before. It's brutal. I've seen students cry. But really it's about being honest and constructive. If my phrasing is offensive apologies. Again just my opinion. It's in no way fact. |
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Strange Al
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by Strange Al on Jul 13, 2007 7:23:29 GMT 1, No Blood for Oil? How about No Art for Money? One of my favorite quotes: "Art is about life, the art market is about money" - Damien Hirst
Conflict Warhol - "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art".
No Blood for Oil? How about No Art for Money? One of my favorite quotes: "Art is about life, the art market is about money" - Damien Hirst Conflict Warhol - "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art". |
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Trade U/S Morons for Beejoir Shell Blood For Oil, by adrscib on Jul 14, 2007 16:43:12 GMT 1, brooksy you can still hold your morons and buy the SBFO... check your mail and thank me.
brooksy you can still hold your morons and buy the SBFO... check your mail and thank me.
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