[solly]

Hi, I am new to this forum and this is my first post.

Does anyone know how much a Nola gift print which is signed and stamped is worth?

Nola White Rain?

Nola Grey Rain?

Nola Neon Yellow?

Thanks.

[rrrich]

careful with a gift print as pest control won't typically give a certificate of authenticity for them. it'd mean you taking someone at their word that it's legit and you may struggle to have satisfactory provenance if you want to sell it in the future.

if you're looking to buy nonetheless/or sell, i'd say c£7.5k, depending on the run number and colour. i think some have gone to auction that banksy gifted to charities and the blue one from the POW open day was up for sale here recently.

[solly]

Are you saying £7.5k for gift print?

[solly]

A gift print is signed and stamped but is not numbered.

[mothegrass]

Sept 16, 2011 11:06:11 GMT 1 solly said:

A gift print is signed and stamped but is not numbered.

Not always, I've owned some gifts that were signed but unstamped and some that were stamped but not signed..

Mo

[craigf]

Sept 16, 2011 11:04:35 GMT 1 solly said:

Are you saying £7.5k for gift print?

Very colour dependant imho

For white and grey I'd argue that if it is to someone and it has a personal message on the face of the print they would be lower than the standard edition. The other colourways for me would need COA or I would not touch them. Assuming they did it would be fair to say they will be more expensive than white or grey

[solly]

No personal message on the print and they are not to someone, any idea on prices?

[mothegrass]

Sept 16, 2011 11:49:35 GMT 1 craigf said:

Sept 16, 2011 11:04:35 GMT 1 solly said:

Are you saying £7.5k for gift print?

Very colour dependant imho

For white and grey I'd argue that if it is to someone and it has a personal message on the face of the print they would be lower than the standard edition. The other colourways for me would need COA or I would not touch them. Assuming they did it would be fair to say they will be more expensive than white or grey

graigf are you really saying a gift print is worth 7.5k,? sorry not with it today

here was my reply from PC re coa's




From: [e-mail]
Subject: Authentication request/Nola gifts

To: ?@hotmail.co.uk

Hi ??,

Thank you for submitting your authentication request.

Unfortunately although your 3 prints are gift prints we cannot issue you with a Certificate of Authentication
as you were not the person/persons that they were originally gifted to.
we apologise for this but we look at it as "If its a gift it shouldn't be sold"
if you require any more info please contact us at [e-mail]

Kind regards

Pest Control Office Authentications
[e-mail]

gutted

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Sept 16, 2011 12:04:05 GMT 1 mothegrass said:

Sept 16, 2011 11:49:35 GMT 1 craigf said:

Very colour dependant imho

For white and grey I'd argue that if it is to someone and it has a personal message on the face of the print they would be lower than the standard edition. The other colourways for me would need COA or I would not touch them. Assuming they did it would be fair to say they will be more expensive than white or grey

graigf are you really saying a gift print is worth 7.5k,? sorry not with it today

here was my reply from PC re coa's




From: [e-mail]
Subject: Authentication request/Nola gifts

To: ?@hotmail.co.uk

Hi ??,

Thank you for submitting your authentication request.

Unfortunately although your 3 prints are gift prints we cannot issue you with a Certificate of Authentication
as you were not the person/persons that they were originally gifted to.
we apologise for this but we look at it as "If its a gift it shouldn't be sold"
if you require any more info please contact us at [e-mail]

Kind regards

Pest Control Office Authentications
[e-mail]

gutted

why did you just amend the email address from authentications?

previously you stated it was [e-mail], which is not the correct address

This feels all whack to me

[mothegrass]

i know i cut and pasted wrong, new mac just getting used to it

[howlinhooker]

prices are tuff on these bit a fair bit less than official releases (numbered, signed ,pest cert,) ..

[craigf]

Sept 16, 2011 12:04:05 GMT 1 mothegrass said:

Sept 16, 2011 11:49:35 GMT 1 craigf said:

Very colour dependant imho

For white and grey I'd argue that if it is to someone and it has a personal message on the face of the print they would be lower than the standard edition. The other colourways for me would need COA or I would not touch them. Assuming they did it would be fair to say they will be more expensive than white or grey

graigf are you really saying a gift print is worth 7.5k,? sorry not with it today

Probably my multitasking didn't make it clear Mo ;D

£7.5k? No definitely not if there are no COA's whatever colourway they are, the further the gift print gets away from the original recipient the more the discussion ends up being a "trust me guv" one and why would you spend so much on one when you can get the regular edition for the same money

If they had COA's I'd expect that they could align in price with the regular edition for that colour

If they have COA's, but were dedicated I would value them lower than the regular edition and would probably not buy one unless it was dedicated "to Craig" ;D

Reading it back I'm not sure if this response is actually any clearer!

[craigf]

p.s. I'll take your three off your hands and cover your cost of framing if that works for you

[solly]

Can someone please give me a ball park figure, thanks.

[mothegrass]

Sept 16, 2011 12:34:43 GMT 1 craigf said:

p.s. I'll take your three off your hands and cover your cost of framing if that works for you

sorry craigf not for sale yet

[howlinhooker]

HALF MARKET PRICE OF THE .....................numbered and signed with pest cert ....i m o

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Sept 16, 2011 13:28:39 GMT 1 @howlinhooker said:

HALF MARKET PRICE OF THE .....................numbered and signed with pest cert ....i m o

without pc coa, these are worth considerably less

Caveat Emptor.........imo

[howlinhooker]

yes your probably right ..................i for 1 wouldnt buy these unless the were dirt cheap .....

[gibbin82]

Sept 16, 2011 13:18:22 GMT 1 solly said:

Can someone please give me a ball park figure, thanks.

There isn't a ball park figure on these, there isn't enough sold to get any average prices that would be reliable. It is very much what the seller wants for one and what it is worth to the buyer, you put your value on it and that is what it is worth .

[Deleted]

There is a reason why PC will not and have not issued COA's on these.

Mothegrass isnt the original owner either, so the chances of anyone buying these and getting COA's later are virtually zero to none

[hunter007]

If no COA is given then what makes these differnet to the prints on ebay for 55 English pounds ? .

[Rsyok]

Sept 16, 2011 13:54:11 GMT 1 Joe Valentino said:

There is a reason why PC will not and have not issued COA's on these.

Mothegrass isnt the original owner either, so the chances of anyone buying these and getting COA's later are virtually zero to none

Pest Control don't seem to be that consistant ?
The recent gift can sold by one of our forum members had PC COA...

Banksy - Soup Can - Original Colourway
Signed by Banksy
("thanks Chris, Banksy 05")
I bought this from "Chris" a couple of years ago and it's a nice little story as to how he got given it by Banksy.
Despite being a gift print this has been given a PC COA which will be passed on to the winning bidder.

[ilmambo]

maybe that "Chris" asked for COA himself? that should be a legit question for Pest Control and I guess that's the only case they'll issue a COA for a gift print.

[stevieray101]

it's strange they do seem to issue COA's for some gift prints. maybe it's something they did in the past and then stopped doing - i remember the "chris" guy on here trying to sell his print.

[Andy'77]

I tried to get a COA for gift print a while back and was told the same as above, COA could only be provided if it was to the original person the gift was given to, they told me it was legit but would not provide a COA as not meant to be sold.

[johnnyh]

That's the way their message reads as well. If your the orig owner they will but not once it's passed on.

Which to a certain extent is fair enough as it was a gift.

So I believe very hard to have an accurate price as it depends on the provenance as to when and how it was gifted and you trust that.

Johnny

[cakeboy]

why don't you get the person you got them off to go to dora and give in writing and signed headed paper that they are infact genuine and were given your seller as a gift ,

although these were not part of a numbered run and not meant for sale they cannot deny they are genuine products with genuine signatures .

just try to get something a different way , all a future buyer cares about is that infact its genuine

i also think that collectors like rare things and gift prints are that , in the future these may be worth more you never know , you will need full history proof and someone to say its at least genuine .

gift prints were given to people who worked for free at POW or people who helped the cause , those individuals can get COA in some cases as they got given these as payment , there argument is that one day they need to be paid . no authentication no payday !

[johnnyh]

Aahhh that's the problem they have been paid. As noted every gift print orig owner can have a COA
It just cannot be transferred.
So your gift and I buy off you is fine all happy. It when I want to sell to someone else. Etc the further you go down the line the more tenuopus it gets.

Hence you need to know who your buying from so it is genuine as they will not do it again. The orig COA may be enough if you know where it came from and you are happy.

You could also though have problems selling if that's what you want to do.

The Green NOLA on here a couple of weeks ago had good provenance and hence worth more as people new its history and how it was gained.

Johnny

[johnnyh]

Tenuopus. Sorry should have been tenuous


Some of these prints are pretty old now and the need for COA's at the time was not such a necessity.

Its only with the surge in values its become an issue

[Trevorm]

What's been posted, I think, is about right - certainly getting to the point with the later stuff.

It's clear that everybody's different and whereas I think I'm susceptible, sorry I mean an easy touch, and would probably be prepared to accept (given half a chance) an inexpensive gift print with even a tenuous provenance ; an inexpensive back doorer; any B with v. light damage - except a S&S cos I've already got one I know a lot of forum members wouldn't.

Just to add, I will say that if anybody wants to get in touch I will frame, keep and savour it - whatever it is