[csider]

Hi everyone, im new to this forum although i have been skulking around in the shadows for a long while now... So firstly, hi to you all ;D

secondly, i have been fortunate enough to get a Grannies print in the stamped last week (lucky me) and am now looking to swap it as luckily for me my gf did the same as a christmas present so i have a spare !!!!

Boy was she pissed when mine arrived lol !!!

so that leaves me either putting it out there to there baying bloodhounds on ebay, or swapping it. i had it up for 4 hours on ebay as a swap but the capitalists that ebay are, they were not happy with the meager £2.50 listing fee and removed my listing

so.... here i am..... and i have a spare print !!! all the usual provenance (if you can call the email from POW that) but its checkable !!!

i dare say some of you have you have already emailed me via ebay, i have your emails, but obviously not your email address's so ill start again here.

please feel free to send me your swap ideas, i'll be happy to listen to all offers before making my choice... already have been offered a napalm, a J&J, Toxic and various rats... also got offered some cool Cauty / Reid / Micallef bits (but have alot of Cauty / Reid already)

so... i look forward to you guys dropping me a line !!!!

Peace

[funkrye]

Listen to all offers. You make it sound like you've got the holy grail.

[csider]

dear oh dear thats a great welcome !!! ....

i could sell it instead to those mercenaries on ebay....

BUT

thought i would improve someones collection who wasnt lucky enough to get one last week... and do the same for myself without money having to change hands.

at least the people on this forum enjoy these for the right reasons.

and yeah of course i will listen to all offers. i put the swap on ebay and had 27 emails offering various items in 4 hours before they removed it.

if this is the way you treat new people maybe i should have stayed in the background quietly collecting !!!!!!

[HowAboutNo]

funkrye said:

Listen to all offers. You make it sound like you've got the holy grail.

That was quite tame! You should have been around when we all started on brick boy!!! ;D

Lots of different opinions. Not really any of them personal, as we dont know you personally! Fair game in my eyes. Jammy so and so that you and your girlfriend got one!

Good luck!

[csider]

cheers for the advice... i fkin hate forums (queue the 'well fuck off' comments)

but thought i would rather see this go to someone who would enjoy it rather than some t**t who thinks its an investment... so thought after a year sneaking around i would post....

and yeah unbelievably lucky so thought i would pass my luck on rather than cash in with ££££ like some of the mugs out there !!!

[funkrye]

Wasnt having a pop at you wanting to swap your print. Just with you adding a list of what people may or may not of offered you seemed a bit much.

[csider]

thank you.... im glad to hear that.

im just trying to help someone out ;D

[csider]

i was genuinely baffled at the interest to be honest....

[Ågentßacardi]

If I were you, I'd take the Napalm. You would be trading up, since it's an older print... probably won't get many offers like that.

Or how about instead of asking for offers, announce what you would ideally want? Easier for prospective swappers to gauge your idea of a good deal.

[csider]

Thanks for the advice - appreciated i dont really know what is in the same league or near to it... and dont want to take the piss i suppose.

i'll have a think and come and post....

[perplexedhead]

I also have Grannies and am open to swap offers.

Cheers,

P

[numusic]

csider said:

dear oh dear thats a great welcome !!! ....

i could sell it instead to those mercenaries on ebay....

BUT

thought i would improve someones collection who wasnt lucky enough to get one last week... and do the same for myself without money having to change hands.

at least the people on this forum enjoy these for the right reasons.

and yeah of course i will listen to all offers. i put the swap on ebay and had 27 emails offering various items in 4 hours before they removed it.

if this is the way you treat new people maybe i should have stayed in the background quietly collecting !!!!!!

Hi, and welcome to the forum..you're alright by me and many others pal.. don't stress over the few, it's been a stressful few days on the Banksy collecting front, passions have been raised

[csider]

thanks bro... i appreciate that alot.

i have been collecting for a while and have stayed off the forums for EXACTLY this reason... too many bitter cyber warriors. see them in the street and they would run off....

i dont take this collecting lark too seriously i enjoy the art

thanks for your comments nu music ;D

are you in the music biz or is your name taken out of context?

[BK83]

Csider -- this is dissapointing -- you are a professional art dealer/collector -- it is quite obvious the way your posts are written. I find it disgusting that you would come on here try to take advantage of people who actually have a genuine interest in Banksy's art rather than some monetary investment which is clearly all you think this is. There's no way I would swap any piece of artwork I own with you and I hope others can see through your lies and do the same.

Take care,

J

[Ågentßacardi]

csider said:

Thanks for the advice - appreciated i dont really know what is in the same league or near to it... and dont want to take the piss i suppose.

i'll have a think and come and post....

I think the most prudent and 'fair' swap for Grannies will be another one from the Barely Legal series (the remaining 5). A little further down would be J&J or VM, I think. The "leagues" of the prints are roughly correlated to their release dates.

Of course, my word is hardly the gospel truth, so perhaps some of the more experienced members can give you a little help too

[csider]

jaypaav said:

Csider -- this is dissapointing -- you are a professional art dealer/collector -- it is quite obvious the way your posts are written. I find it disgusting that you would come on here try to take advantage of people who actually have a genuine interest in Banksy's art rather than some monetary investment which is clearly all you think this is. There's no way I would swap any piece of artwork I own with you and I hope others can see through your lies and do the same.

Take care,

J

amusing.... im not an art dealer... but thanks for your comments - now will people stop being paranoid? if i was an art dealer surely i would be selling prints?? i havent sold a print for money EVER !!! Jaypaav my ebay ID is c_sider go look for yourself - and please apologise for your mistake

bacardi... thanks for your comments appreciated.

[csider]

nu music have mailed you through ebay, please read

[nightfever]

'you are a professional art dealer/collector -- it is quite obvious the way your posts are written.'

Is there a writing course for Art Dealers?

Get a life.

[numusic]

csider said:

nu music have mailed you through ebay, please read

got it mate, did you receive the response ?

[csider]

i did and replied....

[boast]

"now looking to swap it as luckily for me my gf did the same as a christmas present so i have a spare !!!!

Boy was she pissed when mine arrived lol !!! "

Wow thats a co-incidence ....

The boys at POW can only do so much to stop people doing multiple applications I suppose.

[artforartssake]

Seeing as they have a database of who was sold each print, what's to stop them banning those who instantly resell? They have the power....

[Daniel Silk]

artforartssake said:

Seeing as they have a database of who was sold each print, what's to stop them banning those who instantly resell? They have the power....

I cant see that they are really that worried about it
POW must realise that when people see these ones go straight on to ebay and sell for triple the original price, it will encourage more to buy the next print At the end of the day, any artist wants to be able to make a living out of selling his art, so if the trading of his work on ebay is keeping the future values of his work high surley he must be a very happy man ;D

[artforartssake]

So all this anti-capiltalism malarkey is phoney-baloney then

[Daniel Silk]

artforartssake said:

So all this anti-capiltalism malarkey is phoney-baloney then

When your making hundred of thousands out of selling Limited Edition prints and Canvases to Hollywood Stars ;D the Anti-Capitalism angle dunt really ring true Sorry

I ain't moaning! good luck to them! ;D but I think its a bit rich if they tried to stamp out the ebay resale market

[artforartssake]

admin said:

artforartssake said:

So all this anti-capiltalism malarkey is phoney-baloney then

When your making hundred of thousands out of selling Limited Edition prints and Canvases to Hollywood Stars ;D the Anti-Capitalism angle dunt really ring true Sorry

I ain't moaning! good luck to them! ;D but I think its a bit rich if they tried to stamp out the ebay resale market

Got to agree with you, all this holier-than-thou piety about the resale market does make me laugh though

[csider]

well if i had been this mercenary art dealer (i must be i write like one) / sheister then i would have sold it for £££££ - i didnt and havent !!! i offered a swap, theres just no pleasing some people, and i couldnt give a flying f**k what anyone thinks or believes.

as for the capitalism question, most people on the forums here and elsewhere are quietly 'investing' 'swapping' 'trading up' ' buying bargains' on ebay and good luck to them i say.

now think about this.

when an artiste (ANY ARTISTE) sells 500 x £200 prints and 150 x £500 prints thats a whopping £175,000 for one print !!!!

there are 6 in the LA exhibition series....

so thats 6 x £175k = just over £1 MILLION !!!

POW probably get a commission as they should so do you really think they mind about ebay? No thought not.... the market serves them well.... very well.... its THE biggest single driving force behind this market....

i do however think its admirable that they keep them within reach of the ordinary man in the street !!! they are keeping it accessible and that should be applauded.

for me i havent sold a print ever, i like them for what they are and will enjoy them for what they are and if you dont believe me i dont care, kiss my arse.... ;D

[Daniel Silk]

csider said:

well if i had been this mercenary art dealer (i must be i write like one) / sheister then i would have sold it for £££££ - i didnt and havent !!! i offered a swap, theres just no pleasing some people, and i couldnt give a flying f**k what anyone thinks or believes.

as for the capitalism question, most people on the forums here and elsewhere are quietly 'investing' 'swapping' 'trading up' ' buying bargains' on ebay and good luck to them i say.

now think about this.

when an artiste (ANY ARTISTE) sells 500 x £200 prints and 150 x £500 prints thats a whopping £175,000 for one print !!!!

there are 6 in the LA exhibition series....

so thats 6 x £175k = just over £1 MILLION !!!

POW probably get a commission as they should so do you really think they mind about ebay? No thought not.... the market serves them well.... very well.... its THE biggest single driving force behind this market....

i do however think its admirable that they keep them within reach of the ordinary man in the street !!! they are keeping it accessible and that should be applauded.

for me i havent sold a print ever, i like them for what they are and will enjoy them for what they are and if you dont believe me i dont care, kiss my arse.... ;D

Jeeesssuusss! Calm down Mate We aint gettin at you

[csider]

all calm Silky... ;D

[tomjedimaster]

So the dude picked up a couple of prints and made a BS story about his girlfriend coincidently buying him a print for xmas. Who cares if it was premeditated . It's a way of hopefully getting the print he wants but can't afford the prices being pushed on the auctions. I would like to be in his position now. Let's face it, the only reason we complain is because we are jealous.

As for buying and selling prints, this forum wouldn't exist if people didn't continually put the Banksy brand up for sale. The Banksy brand is becoming mainstream and it will become even harder to pick up the prints we really want.

Anyways, I got my grannie in the post today and I think it's shit. Quite dissapointed.