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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by guest2 on May 13, 2008 0:46:10 GMT 1,
still think it's wrong
"Sunday April 22, 2007 | The Observer
Banksy's Pulp Fiction mural at London's Old Street - John Travolta and Samuel L Jackson being menacing with bananas - has been painted over by workmen, unaware of its status as street art""
now the pulp had the bananas as guns, the banana suits had guns....we're going to have to call in the real expert now. Little Bird ?
still think it's wrong "Sunday April 22, 2007 | The Observer Banksy's Pulp Fiction mural at London's Old Street - John Travolta and Samuel L Jackson being menacing with bananas - has been painted over by workmen, unaware of its status as street art"" now the pulp had the bananas as guns, the banana suits had guns....we're going to have to call in the real expert now. Little Bird ?
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by Prescription Art on May 13, 2008 0:48:58 GMT 1, still think it's wrong "Sunday April 22, 2007 | The Observer Banksy's Pulp Fiction mural at London's Old Street - John Travolta and Samuel L Jackson being menacing with bananas - has been painted over by workmen, unaware of its status as street art"" now the pulp had the bananas as guns, the banana suits had guns....we're going to have to call in the real expert now. Little Bird ?
YOU WILL RESPECT MA AUTHORITAY
still think it's wrong "Sunday April 22, 2007 | The Observer Banksy's Pulp Fiction mural at London's Old Street - John Travolta and Samuel L Jackson being menacing with bananas - has been painted over by workmen, unaware of its status as street art"" now the pulp had the bananas as guns, the banana suits had guns....we're going to have to call in the real expert now. Little Bird ? YOU WILL RESPECT MA AUTHORITAY
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by Prescription Art on May 13, 2008 0:50:39 GMT 1, Back on the subject of Dave the Chimp - i've changed my tune a bit after reading his rubbish explanation on his website - essentially that the locals don't want to look at bombs.
But anyway, i've just seen a worse example of going over someone's work:
www.flickr.com/photos/proper/sets/72157594279874571/show/
Back on the subject of Dave the Chimp - i've changed my tune a bit after reading his rubbish explanation on his website - essentially that the locals don't want to look at bombs. But anyway, i've just seen a worse example of going over someone's work: www.flickr.com/photos/proper/sets/72157594279874571/show/
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by Guest on May 13, 2008 0:51:56 GMT 1, DEF the right order, I know it seems like a weird order, because the original pulp fiction was replaced with the suited version. but it happened like that
DEF the right order, I know it seems like a weird order, because the original pulp fiction was replaced with the suited version. but it happened like that
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by rosstierney on May 13, 2008 0:56:24 GMT 1, Back on the subject of Dave the Chimp - i've changed my tune a bit after reading his rubbish explanation on his website - essentially that the locals don't want to look at bombs.
www.davethechimp.co.uk/home.php
Back on the subject of Dave the Chimp - i've changed my tune a bit after reading his rubbish explanation on his website - essentially that the locals don't want to look at bombs. www.davethechimp.co.uk/home.php
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by jfury on May 13, 2008 1:48:39 GMT 1, DTC response/explantion to emails about this - taken directly from his website
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Hello, I don't know what you had in mind when you did such a feeble thing to M-City.
DtC: what I had in mind was to put back a piece of work that the residents of that area loved, and to cover an aggressive image. In the 13 years I have lived in London, we have been bombed by the IRA and muslim fanatics, and I don't want more bombs on the streets of my neighbourhood, a place where many of my good friends live. there is enough aggression in our streets without people adding more through images of weapons of hate and destruction. Actually, what did M-City have in mind when he did such a feeble thing as to cover my work? maybe you could let me know. surely there were plenty of other walls in London he could have painted (there's one opposite in fact!)
I'm so astonished. In case you didn't notice, he's really talented and until now no one has been able to invent a technique like that.
DtC: "no one has been able to invent a technique like that" - really? it is a tiling technique, which people have been using for hundreds of years to print material, wallpaper, etc. I in no way doubt his talent. I'm sure he has much more to give the world than repeat images of buildings.
Everyone is so old fashionned compared to him.
DtC: are you talking about his work? come now, there is nothing new about stencils in black on a white background. Have you heard of Blek le Rat? Or seen images of the Clash from 1979? How far back in history do you need me to go?? I'm not sure if you know that he is polish and he created this piece as a tribute to the London people who have been bombed by the Germans during the World War II.
DtC: my grandparents were bombed during WWII. they don't want to be reminded of their family and friends being killed. more recently the husband of a friend of one of my work colleagues was killed by the terrorist attack on the London Underground. She doesn't want to be reminded that she lost her husband, the man she loved. so thanks, but no one really wants bombs in the streets of London, it just reminds us of loss and pain.
This was M-City's specific project for London. Maybe you didn't get this intellectual content or it is perhaps beyond you're ability to see this.
DtC: no, I didn't see that a sideways city in the shape of a bomb was a tribute, and you'd think an artist would see that. I guess if I didn't see it, it would have been completely lost on the people of 70 years and over who actually experienced their home being destroyed by bombs. but it's sweet of him to try. maybe next time he wants to give something to the victims of aggression he could think of something that doesn't remind them of their attacker. maybe that would be a more thoughtful, even "intellectual", idea? Because unfortunately all you do is paint worms.
DtC: really? good grief, I didn't know that!!! You'd have think I'd have noticed that all I've painted for the past decade were worms!!! maybe you're mistaken. maybe you'd like to have a look at my website www.davethechimp.co.uk or one of the dozen books that have featured my work. Now, doesn't M-City just paint stencils of buildings? I think the clue is in his name...
I think it is not good enough to pass through the 21st century as an artist in this way.
DtC: me either! who wants to see the same thing painted over and over again? the same image repeated over and over? I sure don't! it would be incredibly dull, and surely a bad move for any artist who wanted to explore their creative potential. though I hear it's quite a good way to get "known" or get "fame". hmmm... maybe I should try it?? I promote M-City's work a lot and I'm very proud of it. I chose him for my book because he is one of the best street artists in the world.
DtC: really? one of the best? I've seen a lot of "street art" and can't say he'd be in my top 10, no disrespect to him (top 50 for sure). He's very lucky to have such a passionate supporter as you. I hope he sings your praises as much as you sing his. It is not a coΓ―ncidence, Banksy invited him to bring him from Poland to London.
DtC: there were 40 artists in the "Can Festival" show, and, in fact, pretty much anyone who puts up stencils was allowed to participate. hardly exclusive! oh, and there was one rule for that show - "DON'T GO OVER ANYONE" - he painted over a piece of my work that the locals were very fond of. I just returned the favour (I don't have much time for rules ;-)
I'm preparing a new collective book about "Beautiful Street Art" and my god you can't be on the list !!
DtC: that's a shame. I hope it doesn't affect your sales. So, to conclude, your act is just like your adjudication.
DtC: er... what? sorry, I'm not intelligent enough to understand that. You're over from now and if you're not sure of that yet, just take a look on the Banksy's Forum...
DtC: Am I really? well, time will tell I'm sure. and as for looking on Banksy's Forum, why would I waste my time? you find art and social commentary on the streets, not in the writing of people who live their lives on message boards! and thus I have as little interest in their b**chy comments as I have in reading "celebrity" gossip magazines. As the saying goes "Arguing on the internet is like the special olympics - it doesn't matter who wins, you're both still retarded!" check out www.m-city.org to learn a bit about what is Art !
DtC: I sure will, thanks for the tip!
Below I've pasted the email conversation I had with Annette from Blank Expression (the organisation that finds walls and secures permission for Banksy to paint them). It may interest you to read the opinion of people that actually live in that neighbourhood, though you seem to already have formed your views. we live in hope though.
All the best. And good luck with the book (ace title!)
Dave the Chimp
p.s. just a thought, but does M-City know you're writing to me? I would be hugely embarrased if any of my friends had written to him to attack him for painting over my work! 2008/5/9 xxxxx xxxxx xxxxxxxx Hi Dave Hope life is sweet in Berlin. Did you fly over especially to paint over M-City's piece on 'your wall' or did you just happen to be in town? I spoke to the previous owner of the building to seek permission to use it in conjunction with the festival, didn't realise we also had to get your permission as well. Shame people who have been enjoying your piece for months won't now be able to enjoy some new work on the spot. dave chimp to xxxxxx Hiya yeah, it's a shame. a shame that of all the walls in London people have to go over ones already painted rather than spreading more colour in this grey city, and a shame that a half dozen people only managed to cover a small proportion of the wall, making it look a mess. but it's nice again now. no more bombs being dropped on a city that's had it's fair share of bombs dropped on it. positivity over aggression in a city with way too many kids being killed in the streets. at least, 75% of the people who stopped to talk to me were happy the worm was back, including a little old lady who was so happy, told me how all the kids loved it, and then, in the tiniest whisper, told me that the stencils that had gone over it were "crap", before scuttling off. can't argue with the people who live there, it's their home after all. it's not my wall, and I have never claimed it is. but graffiti artists paint on stuff, that's all there is too it. no beef, I just thought the wall looked a mess, now the majority of locals are happy with it. which is probably better for the travellers who live there too, as the locals won't be so offended by them (they seemed to have thought they had painted the wall) I spoke to five of the people who live in the building, only one was upset, and two of them preferred what I'd done to the stencils. whatever people may think, I don't set out to offend people. but if a handful of graffiti artists are offended, that's their hang-up, they don't have to live there and all those people do. as my friend says "if a graffiti writer is upset when someone goes over their work, then they haven't got enough work up". And as I say "any graffiti artist who puts their web site address on a wall is no different than a corporation that covers our walls in advertising, and should be taken outside and shot" (only kidding, I'm anti-violence ;-) . but hey, different strokes for different folks. the only time is right now, and right now, my work is on top. if tomorrow it's someone else, so be it. that's how it was a few days ago, this is how it is now. that's life. the only constant is change. and to be honest, right now I think the wall looks it's best yet. the bright colours over a layer of stark black and white look killer, really nice and bright for the summer. I even painted little hearts on the signs the stick men were holding, tying the piece together as a whole, rather than just a bunch of random stencils bundled together. I also left plenty of the stencils showing, so that everyone was on the wall. I could have just white-washed over a section like M-People did, but like I said, I thought that looked crap. anyway, whatever, go paint over it again, I'm really not bothered. but maybe the locals are (one told me the stencil kids were rude to her, which isn't cool. gotta respect the people you're forcing your views on through art in their streets. make them dislike you and they'll dislike all graffiti, and I'd rather they liked it, otherwise I have to stop painting it ;-) take care
CHIMP
p.s. no, I didn't fly over to London to paint over his work, I came over for an exhibition I was in and three birthday parties!
DTC response/explantion to emails about this - taken directly from his website ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I don't know what you had in mind when you did such a feeble thing to M-City. DtC: what I had in mind was to put back a piece of work that the residents of that area loved, and to cover an aggressive image. In the 13 years I have lived in London, we have been bombed by the IRA and muslim fanatics, and I don't want more bombs on the streets of my neighbourhood, a place where many of my good friends live. there is enough aggression in our streets without people adding more through images of weapons of hate and destruction. Actually, what did M-City have in mind when he did such a feeble thing as to cover my work? maybe you could let me know. surely there were plenty of other walls in London he could have painted (there's one opposite in fact!) I'm so astonished. In case you didn't notice, he's really talented and until now no one has been able to invent a technique like that. DtC: "no one has been able to invent a technique like that" - really? it is a tiling technique, which people have been using for hundreds of years to print material, wallpaper, etc. I in no way doubt his talent. I'm sure he has much more to give the world than repeat images of buildings. Everyone is so old fashionned compared to him. DtC: are you talking about his work? come now, there is nothing new about stencils in black on a white background. Have you heard of Blek le Rat? Or seen images of the Clash from 1979? How far back in history do you need me to go?? I'm not sure if you know that he is polish and he created this piece as a tribute to the London people who have been bombed by the Germans during the World War II. DtC: my grandparents were bombed during WWII. they don't want to be reminded of their family and friends being killed. more recently the husband of a friend of one of my work colleagues was killed by the terrorist attack on the London Underground. She doesn't want to be reminded that she lost her husband, the man she loved. so thanks, but no one really wants bombs in the streets of London, it just reminds us of loss and pain. This was M-City's specific project for London. Maybe you didn't get this intellectual content or it is perhaps beyond you're ability to see this. DtC: no, I didn't see that a sideways city in the shape of a bomb was a tribute, and you'd think an artist would see that. I guess if I didn't see it, it would have been completely lost on the people of 70 years and over who actually experienced their home being destroyed by bombs. but it's sweet of him to try. maybe next time he wants to give something to the victims of aggression he could think of something that doesn't remind them of their attacker. maybe that would be a more thoughtful, even "intellectual", idea? Because unfortunately all you do is paint worms. DtC: really? good grief, I didn't know that!!! You'd have think I'd have noticed that all I've painted for the past decade were worms!!! maybe you're mistaken. maybe you'd like to have a look at my website www.davethechimp.co.uk or one of the dozen books that have featured my work. Now, doesn't M-City just paint stencils of buildings? I think the clue is in his name... I think it is not good enough to pass through the 21st century as an artist in this way. DtC: me either! who wants to see the same thing painted over and over again? the same image repeated over and over? I sure don't! it would be incredibly dull, and surely a bad move for any artist who wanted to explore their creative potential. though I hear it's quite a good way to get "known" or get "fame". hmmm... maybe I should try it?? I promote M-City's work a lot and I'm very proud of it. I chose him for my book because he is one of the best street artists in the world. DtC: really? one of the best? I've seen a lot of "street art" and can't say he'd be in my top 10, no disrespect to him (top 50 for sure). He's very lucky to have such a passionate supporter as you. I hope he sings your praises as much as you sing his. It is not a coΓ―ncidence, Banksy invited him to bring him from Poland to London. DtC: there were 40 artists in the "Can Festival" show, and, in fact, pretty much anyone who puts up stencils was allowed to participate. hardly exclusive! oh, and there was one rule for that show - "DON'T GO OVER ANYONE" - he painted over a piece of my work that the locals were very fond of. I just returned the favour (I don't have much time for rules ;-) I'm preparing a new collective book about "Beautiful Street Art" and my god you can't be on the list !! DtC: that's a shame. I hope it doesn't affect your sales. So, to conclude, your act is just like your adjudication. DtC: er... what? sorry, I'm not intelligent enough to understand that. You're over from now and if you're not sure of that yet, just take a look on the Banksy's Forum... DtC: Am I really? well, time will tell I'm sure. and as for looking on Banksy's Forum, why would I waste my time? you find art and social commentary on the streets, not in the writing of people who live their lives on message boards! and thus I have as little interest in their b**chy comments as I have in reading "celebrity" gossip magazines. As the saying goes "Arguing on the internet is like the special olympics - it doesn't matter who wins, you're both still retarded!" check out www.m-city.org to learn a bit about what is Art ! DtC: I sure will, thanks for the tip! Below I've pasted the email conversation I had with Annette from Blank Expression (the organisation that finds walls and secures permission for Banksy to paint them). It may interest you to read the opinion of people that actually live in that neighbourhood, though you seem to already have formed your views. we live in hope though. All the best. And good luck with the book (ace title!) Dave the Chimp p.s. just a thought, but does M-City know you're writing to me? I would be hugely embarrased if any of my friends had written to him to attack him for painting over my work! 2008/5/9 xxxxx xxxxx xxxxxxxx Hi Dave Hope life is sweet in Berlin. Did you fly over especially to paint over M-City's piece on 'your wall' or did you just happen to be in town? I spoke to the previous owner of the building to seek permission to use it in conjunction with the festival, didn't realise we also had to get your permission as well. Shame people who have been enjoying your piece for months won't now be able to enjoy some new work on the spot. dave chimp to xxxxxx Hiya yeah, it's a shame. a shame that of all the walls in London people have to go over ones already painted rather than spreading more colour in this grey city, and a shame that a half dozen people only managed to cover a small proportion of the wall, making it look a mess. but it's nice again now. no more bombs being dropped on a city that's had it's fair share of bombs dropped on it. positivity over aggression in a city with way too many kids being killed in the streets. at least, 75% of the people who stopped to talk to me were happy the worm was back, including a little old lady who was so happy, told me how all the kids loved it, and then, in the tiniest whisper, told me that the stencils that had gone over it were "crap", before scuttling off. can't argue with the people who live there, it's their home after all. it's not my wall, and I have never claimed it is. but graffiti artists paint on stuff, that's all there is too it. no beef, I just thought the wall looked a mess, now the majority of locals are happy with it. which is probably better for the travellers who live there too, as the locals won't be so offended by them (they seemed to have thought they had painted the wall) I spoke to five of the people who live in the building, only one was upset, and two of them preferred what I'd done to the stencils. whatever people may think, I don't set out to offend people. but if a handful of graffiti artists are offended, that's their hang-up, they don't have to live there and all those people do. as my friend says "if a graffiti writer is upset when someone goes over their work, then they haven't got enough work up". And as I say "any graffiti artist who puts their web site address on a wall is no different than a corporation that covers our walls in advertising, and should be taken outside and shot" (only kidding, I'm anti-violence ;-) . but hey, different strokes for different folks. the only time is right now, and right now, my work is on top. if tomorrow it's someone else, so be it. that's how it was a few days ago, this is how it is now. that's life. the only constant is change. and to be honest, right now I think the wall looks it's best yet. the bright colours over a layer of stark black and white look killer, really nice and bright for the summer. I even painted little hearts on the signs the stick men were holding, tying the piece together as a whole, rather than just a bunch of random stencils bundled together. I also left plenty of the stencils showing, so that everyone was on the wall. I could have just white-washed over a section like M-People did, but like I said, I thought that looked crap. anyway, whatever, go paint over it again, I'm really not bothered. but maybe the locals are (one told me the stencil kids were rude to her, which isn't cool. gotta respect the people you're forcing your views on through art in their streets. make them dislike you and they'll dislike all graffiti, and I'd rather they liked it, otherwise I have to stop painting it ;-) take care CHIMP p.s. no, I didn't fly over to London to paint over his work, I came over for an exhibition I was in and three birthday parties!
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by holden on May 13, 2008 2:00:14 GMT 1, Back on the subject of Dave the Chimp - i've changed my tune a bit after reading his rubbish explanation on his website - essentially that the locals don't want to look at bombs.
Its actually changed my mind too. Perhaps the other way??? Maybe they dont want to look at bombs especially when there is so much art with guns! Rule 1 there are no rules....
www.davethechimp.co.uk/home.php
Worth a read. He certainly has the forum scene sussed despite an unfortunate allegory.
Back on the subject of Dave the Chimp - i've changed my tune a bit after reading his rubbish explanation on his website - essentially that the locals don't want to look at bombs. Its actually changed my mind too. Perhaps the other way??? Maybe they dont want to look at bombs especially when there is so much art with guns! Rule 1 there are no rules.... www.davethechimp.co.uk/home.phpWorth a read. He certainly has the forum scene sussed despite an unfortunate allegory.
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by Prescription Art on May 13, 2008 2:13:41 GMT 1, Back on the subject of Dave the Chimp - i've changed my tune a bit after reading his rubbish explanation on his website - essentially that the locals don't want to look at bombs. Its actually changed my mind too. Perhaps the other way??? Maybe they dont want to look at bombs especially when there is so much art with guns! Rule 1 there are no rules.... www.davethechimp.co.uk/home.phpWorth a read. He certainly has the forum scene sussed despite an unfortunate allegory.
People don't want to look at / remember bombs? That's bullshit. Why do we have rememberance day & why do people pack the cinemas for war films. If he'd come out & said that he was reclaiming his patch i'd think fair enough, but all this heroic protecting the locals from images they don't want to see sounds like bollocks to me. Having been blown up by a bomb myself I find it hard to believe that 50 years on anyone would find looking at a stenciled cartoonish bomb on a wall remotely disturbing.
Back on the subject of Dave the Chimp - i've changed my tune a bit after reading his rubbish explanation on his website - essentially that the locals don't want to look at bombs. Its actually changed my mind too. Perhaps the other way??? Maybe they dont want to look at bombs especially when there is so much art with guns! Rule 1 there are no rules.... www.davethechimp.co.uk/home.phpWorth a read. He certainly has the forum scene sussed despite an unfortunate allegory. People don't want to look at / remember bombs? That's bullshit. Why do we have rememberance day & why do people pack the cinemas for war films. If he'd come out & said that he was reclaiming his patch i'd think fair enough, but all this heroic protecting the locals from images they don't want to see sounds like bollocks to me. Having been blown up by a bomb myself I find it hard to believe that 50 years on anyone would find looking at a stenciled cartoonish bomb on a wall remotely disturbing.
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by mole on May 13, 2008 2:25:35 GMT 1, "You're over from now and if you're not sure of that yet, just take a look on the Banksy's Forum..."
excerpt taken from email sent to Dave from someone who clearly doesn't know what there talking about!
I think you'll find it's only just begun! Watch this space.
"You're over from now and if you're not sure of that yet, just take a look on the Banksy's Forum..." excerpt taken from email sent to Dave from someone who clearly doesn't know what there talking about! I think you'll find it's only just begun! Watch this space.
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by PRO on May 13, 2008 3:31:54 GMT 1, yawn...
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by artstylee on May 13, 2008 6:23:25 GMT 1, That guy's doctor must have given him screwy pills to go over that intricate piece. Envy makes people do crazy things.
That guy's doctor must have given him screwy pills to go over that intricate piece. Envy makes people do crazy things.
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by guest2 on May 13, 2008 7:45:46 GMT 1, Re: Pulp Fiction First up was the banana guns, then the banana suits, then the tribute to the then recently deceased writer, Ozone. Banksy said of his Ozone 'Angel with skull' piece, "The last time I hit this spot I painted a crap picture of two men in banana costumes waving hand guns. A few weeks later a writer called Ozone completely dogged it and then wrote 'If it's better next time I'll leave it' in the bottom corner. When we lost Ozone we lost a fearless graffiti writer and as it turns out a pretty perceptive art critic. Ozone - rest in peace."
little bird, how long was the banana suits up for?
Re: Pulp Fiction First up was the banana guns, then the banana suits, then the tribute to the then recently deceased writer, Ozone. Banksy said of his Ozone 'Angel with skull' piece, "The last time I hit this spot I painted a crap picture of two men in banana costumes waving hand guns. A few weeks later a writer called Ozone completely dogged it and then wrote 'If it's better next time I'll leave it' in the bottom corner. When we lost Ozone we lost a fearless graffiti writer and as it turns out a pretty perceptive art critic. Ozone - rest in peace." little bird, how long was the banana suits up for?
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by fuzzed on May 13, 2008 8:06:50 GMT 1, I love this quote from the DTC website - "as my friend says "if a graffiti writer is upset when someone goes over their work, then they haven't got enough work up"
He's aiming this at M-City. Erm he painted over them! Pot, kettle, black.
I love this quote from the DTC website - "as my friend says "if a graffiti writer is upset when someone goes over their work, then they haven't got enough work up"
He's aiming this at M-City. Erm he painted over them! Pot, kettle, black.
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by Guest on May 13, 2008 10:27:49 GMT 1, Re: Pulp Fiction First up was the banana guns, then the banana suits, then the tribute to the then recently deceased writer, Ozone. Banksy said of his Ozone 'Angel with skull' piece, "The last time I hit this spot I painted a crap picture of two men in banana costumes waving hand guns. A few weeks later a writer called Ozone completely dogged it and then wrote 'If it's better next time I'll leave it' in the bottom corner. When we lost Ozone we lost a fearless graffiti writer and as it turns out a pretty perceptive art critic. Ozone - rest in peace." little bird, how long was the banana suits up for?
The original pulp fiction was there for 5 years, banana suits for less than a year. are you convinced yet?
Re: Pulp Fiction First up was the banana guns, then the banana suits, then the tribute to the then recently deceased writer, Ozone. Banksy said of his Ozone 'Angel with skull' piece, "The last time I hit this spot I painted a crap picture of two men in banana costumes waving hand guns. A few weeks later a writer called Ozone completely dogged it and then wrote 'If it's better next time I'll leave it' in the bottom corner. When we lost Ozone we lost a fearless graffiti writer and as it turns out a pretty perceptive art critic. Ozone - rest in peace." little bird, how long was the banana suits up for? The original pulp fiction was there for 5 years, banana suits for less than a year. are you convinced yet?
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by buswell on May 13, 2008 10:43:27 GMT 1, What did I start?
What did I start?
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by Guest on May 13, 2008 10:46:28 GMT 1, which came first the chicken or the egg debate. LOL or in this case the banana or the gun
which came first the chicken or the egg debate. LOL or in this case the banana or the gun
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by guest2 on May 13, 2008 13:53:22 GMT 1, little bird, how long was the banana suits up for? The original pulp fiction was there for 5 years, banana suits for less than a year. are you convinced yet?
I just never saw banana suits and always thought it was yonks old when i saw it on the web etc. I remember the pulp going down and then random graff on there and then the piece thats up there now. Never ever saw the suits. And I couldn't for the life of me think he could have painted that after the pulp if you know what I mean. Maybe it was up for just a matter of weeks/months, poss?
Anyways, I apologise for doubting you Ron and Prescription Lenses.
Thank God for 'a little bird. Can't argue with him can we!
little bird, how long was the banana suits up for? The original pulp fiction was there for 5 years, banana suits for less than a year. are you convinced yet? I just never saw banana suits and always thought it was yonks old when i saw it on the web etc. I remember the pulp going down and then random graff on there and then the piece thats up there now. Never ever saw the suits. And I couldn't for the life of me think he could have painted that after the pulp if you know what I mean. Maybe it was up for just a matter of weeks/months, poss? Anyways, I apologise for doubting you Ron and Prescription Lenses. Thank God for 'a little bird. Can't argue with him can we!
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by Guest on May 13, 2008 14:28:07 GMT 1, The original pulp fiction was there for 5 years, banana suits for less than a year. are you convinced yet? I just never saw banana suits and always thought it was yonks old when i saw it on the web etc. I remember the pulp going down and then random graff on there and then the piece thats up there now. Never ever saw the suits. And I couldn't for the life of me think he could have painted that after the pulp if you know what I mean. Maybe it was up for just a matter of weeks/months, poss? Anyways, I apologise for doubting you Ron and Prescription Lenses. Thank God for 'a little bird. Can't argue with him can we!
Nice to have a discussion about Banksy's work for a change.
I dont know why he painted the suits after the original, I remember discussion at the time, saying there was doubt if it was Banksy, mainly because the suits was a far weaker image, even Banksy posted this on his web site.
I know which one i prefer.
;D
The original pulp fiction was there for 5 years, banana suits for less than a year. are you convinced yet? I just never saw banana suits and always thought it was yonks old when i saw it on the web etc. I remember the pulp going down and then random graff on there and then the piece thats up there now. Never ever saw the suits. And I couldn't for the life of me think he could have painted that after the pulp if you know what I mean. Maybe it was up for just a matter of weeks/months, poss? Anyways, I apologise for doubting you Ron and Prescription Lenses. Thank God for 'a little bird. Can't argue with him can we! Nice to have a discussion about Banksy's work for a change. I dont know why he painted the suits after the original, I remember discussion at the time, saying there was doubt if it was Banksy, mainly because the suits was a far weaker image, even Banksy posted this on his web site. I know which one i prefer. ;D
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by morrissey1 on May 13, 2008 18:36:26 GMT 1, honour among thieves? don't deface what I've already defaced? if you put it out there, you gotta be prepared to leave it out there....IMO
honour among thieves? don't deface what I've already defaced? if you put it out there, you gotta be prepared to leave it out there....IMO
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by Jeff Soto on May 13, 2008 20:24:36 GMT 1, I don't know why I just read this whole thread. Sorta entertaining I guess. Graffiti beef has always happened. But it's more public nowadays because of the internet. Graffiti/stencil artists with websites... isn't it sorta ridiculous? What happened to anonymity and outsmarting the authorities? Times have changed.. You guys should handle it oldschool style. Just keep ruthlessly going over each other until you meet up accidentally one night on a dark street, then you'll either 1. throw down (with one or both of you getting beat up pretty good) or 2. have a truce and become "friends"...
I don't know why I just read this whole thread. Sorta entertaining I guess. Graffiti beef has always happened. But it's more public nowadays because of the internet. Graffiti/stencil artists with websites... isn't it sorta ridiculous? What happened to anonymity and outsmarting the authorities? Times have changed.. You guys should handle it oldschool style. Just keep ruthlessly going over each other until you meet up accidentally one night on a dark street, then you'll either 1. throw down (with one or both of you getting beat up pretty good) or 2. have a truce and become "friends"...
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by rosstierney on May 13, 2008 21:22:46 GMT 1, or 2. have a truce and become "friends"...
and while you're there, you might as well collab
or 2. have a truce and become "friends"... and while you're there, you might as well collab
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by guest2 on May 13, 2008 21:32:11 GMT 1, I don't know why I just read this whole thread. Sorta entertaining I guess. Graffiti beef has always happened. But it's more public nowadays because of the internet. Graffiti/stencil artists with websites... isn't it sorta ridiculous? What happened to anonymity and outsmarting the authorities? Times have changed.. You guys should handle it oldschool style. Just keep ruthlessly going over each other until you meet up accidentally one night on a dark street, then you'll either 1. throw down (with one or both of you getting beat up pretty good) or 2. have a truce and become "friends"...
Oh yes! Thats the way. What Jeff said
I don't know why I just read this whole thread. Sorta entertaining I guess. Graffiti beef has always happened. But it's more public nowadays because of the internet. Graffiti/stencil artists with websites... isn't it sorta ridiculous? What happened to anonymity and outsmarting the authorities? Times have changed.. You guys should handle it oldschool style. Just keep ruthlessly going over each other until you meet up accidentally one night on a dark street, then you'll either 1. throw down (with one or both of you getting beat up pretty good) or 2. have a truce and become "friends"... Oh yes! Thats the way. What Jeff said
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by buswell on May 18, 2008 13:17:23 GMT 1, "yes, I painted over a Banksy canvas! my friend was given this painting by someone who owed him �150, around 2001/2002. he didn't like it, and asked me to paint something more interesting over it. now when people see this hanging in his office they tell him what an idiot he is, as the original would be worth thousands!!!"
"yes, I painted over a Banksy canvas! my friend was given this painting by someone who owed him �150, around 2001/2002. he didn't like it, and asked me to paint something more interesting over it. now when people see this hanging in his office they tell him what an idiot he is, as the original would be worth thousands!!!"
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by guest2 on May 18, 2008 13:25:35 GMT 1, He'll be doing some live painting at Cargo soon.
He'll be doing some live painting at Cargo soon.
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by romanywg on May 18, 2008 19:37:49 GMT 1, Hope he won't get too pissed off with Eine going over his work!
Bring on the worms!
Hope he won't get too pissed off with Eine going over his work! Bring on the worms!
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by felix on May 18, 2008 19:49:48 GMT 1, Go Eine!
Go Eine!
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by giiiant on May 18, 2008 20:04:59 GMT 1, Booo, that piece Eine is going over is a damn good one
Booo, that piece Eine is going over is a damn good one
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by romanywg on May 18, 2008 21:18:43 GMT 1, That piece Dave The Chimp went over was a damn good one too! This was legal, he was asked by the owner to paint over it.
That piece Dave The Chimp went over was a damn good one too! This was legal, he was asked by the owner to paint over it.
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Dave the Chimp π¬π§ Print Release β’ Street Art β’ For Sale, by manchestermike on May 18, 2008 21:28:44 GMT 1, ;D Amusing
;D Amusing
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