[tomhills]

whatever mate, you're missing the point which is fair play to zippy. ignore the hyperbole and me mouthing off and just examine the facts. i don't expect to gain any "friends" with the way i go about things - if i did i'd be pretty sad. nuff said.
if you listened as opposed to heard me, you might see that i make an absolutely valid point. still waiting in vain for just one of the meek to pipe up in support and show an ounce of backbone. bet you my house it ain't forthcoming.
get your heads out each others arses yeah?
peace.

[gbh]

my point was not anything to do with the point you are demonstrating. You are right/wrong, who cares.

You mouthing off is the hard thing to ignore. It's becomes hard to listen rather than hear when my ears get filled with shite.

[mido]

I think you've had a saturday with too much time on your hands.

maybe sunday will be a better day?

tomhills said:

sorry, matilda why should i? cos you lot put your towels down first? with that mentallity what am i to do. an opinion is an opinion is an opinion. the trouble starts when you develop a heirachy based on "star members and respect". why are we all not anonymous, then comments are taken on face value. i wouldn't be surprised if most of you are ex-public school tossers, so really i'm wasting my breath really.
if it were numusic saying what i'm saying you'd lick his arse clean.
peace.

[tomhills]

going to bed. the fact my wife is a week overdue, and not that i have nothing to post in return, is the reason i may not get back to you tomorrow - hoping she drops.
in the meantime feel free to grow a spine and say what you really feel, regardless of the fact it might upset the prefects.
peace, yeah?
p.s at the time of writing my 'spect is -10. feel free to "raise" it losers.
no doubt i'm in detention now though. purile.

[justinkase]

I think you should go to bed Tom...for a very long time.

[tomhills]

surely you sycophants have a get together? feel free to big each other up then. i thought this place was about discussion. "if you wanna make an omellate you gotta crack some eggs", yeah?
in the next week i've got much bigger fish to fry but my viewpoint remains strong. stand up and be counted or revert to type. you're all part of the machine you little conformists. have fun, be easy and take care. i'm off to have a child; go upstairs and wank over your "collections", yeah?
banksy has come a long way in the last 4 years. ironically you self-aggrandising bunch have come so much further?
and i'm just a roofer from kent.
careful you don't get covered with snow on your high horses.
peace.

[KaL976]

tomhills said:

going to bed. the fact my wife is a week overdue, and not that i have nothing to post in return, is the reason i may not get back to you tomorrow - hoping she drops.
in the meantime feel free to grow a spine and say what you really feel, regardless of the fact it might upset the prefects.
peace, yeah?
p.s at the time of writing my 'spect is -10. feel free to "raise" it losers.
no doubt i'm in detention now though. purile.

Good luck with the birth & everything - gotta be a stressful time.
I actually agree with you about the signature issue, it's the same image regardless - whether people choose to value it however is their own affair & barging into a perfectly legitimate swap request thread all guns blazing doesn't achieve anything much other than the above...

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In other news, the 'respect' system is ridiculous, as is the fact we can't edit our posts anymore.

[RBK]

I was going to read through this thread but it seems I will need a lot of time & brainpower. Seems that everyone is on edge - think we need the remaing LA prints to be released so we can stop all the bickering. I'll probably actually read all the exchanges later once I come back from interacting with real people outside my home. I suggest you all do the same

[weststar]

'love me or hate me', my god you have a high opinion of yourself dont you? what makes you think anyone on here thinks your important enough to warrant anything near either of those?!! ok, some people might find you mildly irritating, but 'love? are you trying to get a fan club, do you think you might build up a cult following? i think youve been watching too much reality tv.

[hugs]

Tom
your not the artist formerly known as jade goody are you?
On a better note,hope everything goes well for you and yours.

[ABC]

Being a roofer doesn't make you any different to the rest when it comes down to a debate, Its about getting your point across. I will explain my last post. You stated that "all from the establishment must be D**heads then" IMO, Banksy is now a part of that establishment, mixing brushes and spray with the likes of Hirst, emin etc etc . So basically what you did was call Banksy a D**ckhead in a sort of round about way. You must agree if Signed and unsigned didnt matter then they would be the same values when bought and sold. Fact.
Good Luck with the sprog - You'll need it, Ive got 2 and one on the way. Tip, get some matchsticks for the eyes.

[tomhills]

in a roundabout way then maybe he is? i'm not particularly an art person, the great man's work just struck a chord with me. hence values, investment etc mean so little to me. in fact they grate heavily on me.
thanks everyone for the good wishes, shitting myself to be honest - too late now though.
not gonna dwell on the digs, you're only sinking to my level afterall. must just point out to HUGS that i'm neither racist or a bully. i don't come from bermondsey and i find it quite distasteful to make any comparison to that vile pig in anyway.
peace.

[Daniel Silk]

Im keepin out of this one ;D

Oh! in regards to the respect system - I find it funny that the people that moan about it are the ones that use it the most If you dunt like it, dunt use it! Simple

[ABC]

Tom, Do you own any Banksy prints? Not having a dig I was just curious.

[tomhills]

i do indeed. my grin reaper is on p21 of get your banksy's out. flags is coming to me tuesday and i have applause. though nowhere to put it.
i'll be honest and say that not all his work appeals. well work yes, but not all of his prints. i dislike more than i like. but then i am a miserable bar steward.
does this help?
peace.

[hugs]

Sorry Tom,never my intention to iffur you were either,only camparison i was making was that you were airing your views in a very forthright manner and seemed to be upsetting a few people with your views.
Sorry for any offence I may have caused.

[tomhills]

no need to apolgise, i like people saying what they think - just didn't want anyone to assume that's what you meant by it.
everyone has the right to say what they think regardless of any offence it may cause to the person recieving it. though obviously i draw the line at sexism, ageism, racism etc.
not everyones cup of tea i now know.
peace.

[hugs]

I'm glad thats cleared up then.
Right,lets move on..

[mido]

or you could use your muscle and scrap it?

it seems to have caused a lot of gip since day one.

admin said:

Im keepin out of this one ;D

Oh! in regards to the respect system - I find it funny that the people that moan about it are the ones that use it the most If you dunt like it, dunt use it! Simple

[Daniel Silk]

Only from about two or three people

mido said:

or you could use your muscle and scrap it?

it seems to have caused a lot of gip since day one.

admin said:

Im keepin out of this one ;D

Oh! in regards to the respect system - I find it funny that the people that moan about it are the ones that use it the most If you dunt like it, dunt use it! Simple

[numusic]

tomhills said:

sorry, matilda why should i? cos you lot put your towels down first? with that mentallity what am i to do. an opinion is an opinion is an opinion. the trouble starts when you develop a heirachy based on "star members and respect". why are we all not anonymous, then comments are taken on face value. i wouldn't be surprised if most of you are ex-public school tossers, so really i'm wasting my breath really.
if it were numusic saying what i'm saying you'd lick his arse clean.
peace.

ha ha, very doubtful mate. She doesn't exactly like me or my mouthy opinions

[RBK]

I think the respect system is a good idea in principle; but a bad one in its current form. I think it should be based on succesful swaps or transactions.

While it should be used when someone gives valuable advice/help, or expresses a well thought out opinion; I think most are using it as a pissing match and thus defeating the purpose of it all.

[Daniel Silk]

rklimek said:

I think the respect system is a good idea in principle; but a bad one in its current form. I think it should be based on succesful swaps or transactions.

While it should be used when someone gives valuable advice/help, or expresses a well thought out opinion; I think most are using it as a pissing match and thus defeating the purpose of it all.

Yep, it all about being adult enough to use it in the right way the vast majority of people are fine, its only two or three that seem to feel the need to rebel against anything and everything even when its actually something that should work to their advantage

Ahhhh well, there's no helping some people ;D

[KaL976]

No it's bollocks, as is not being able to edit our posts after 30 mins.

[mido]

careful kal, don't upset the apple cart etc

kal976 said:

No it's bollocks, as is not being able to edit our posts after 30 mins.

[mido]

I believe it was SUPPOSED to be all about successful swops. that would obviously result in VERY few actual points 'scored' (I doubt anyone has made more than 5 to 10 swaps with other forum members). But it rapidly became a free for all, with some people on +50, some on -35 etc, and obviously not based on swaps.

It is the proverbial 'pissing up the wall' contest. anyone esle have them at school or am I just a common pleb! ;D

rklimek said:

I think the respect system is a good idea in principle; but a bad one in its current form. I think it should be based on succesful swaps or transactions.

While it should be used when someone gives valuable advice/help, or expresses a well thought out opinion; I think most are using it as a pissing match and thus defeating the purpose of it all.

[mido]

you better edit this one quick mush ;D

kal976 said:

No it's bollocks, as is not being able to edit our posts after 30 mins.

[ABC]

Would be pretty hard to swap over 50 Banksy prints if thats what the respect thing is for. Not sure if its a true reflection of anything to be honest, as stated a few posts back its like being the popular kid at school or in some cases not so popular.

[Daniel Silk]

as posted on Nov 8, 2006, 6:16pm -

;D We now have a new tool to help out if your planning to swap or trade prints with people on this forum and you want to know if you can trust them.

;D On the left of ever new post you will find a RESPECT score, where everyone can vote + or - remember this is not just for you to score them from a swap deal but to score the message that they have just posted.

;D Over time this should become a good indicator of who to trust and who not to trust. If any members become obviously untrustworthy by the scores they have been given, they could be removed for the forum.

;D

[tomhills1]

untrustworthy or just saying things people don't want to hear? i know of people that get negative respect without swapping anything or starting new threads. they may post a reply that not everyone agrees with but that's life, surely?
this could be the acid test, my first post: see how many negative respects i get (or positive) just for making a comment.