rka00
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by rka00 on Dec 13, 2011 3:26:09 GMT 1, Nola, imo, especially if you live stateside which may have more significance since you may have heard some of the controversy related to Hurricane Katrina like the government's slow reaction to assisting those affected (which is one of the messages I get from the imagery). Similar to what gorkie posted.
What is the message in Napalm? I'm not being an arse, I'm just being honest about this, sorry to sound like I've missed the boat--but I guess I have. War being fueled by corporate America? Corporate America having no regard for humanity?
Nola, imo, especially if you live stateside which may have more significance since you may have heard some of the controversy related to Hurricane Katrina like the government's slow reaction to assisting those affected (which is one of the messages I get from the imagery). Similar to what gorkie posted.
What is the message in Napalm? I'm not being an arse, I'm just being honest about this, sorry to sound like I've missed the boat--but I guess I have. War being fueled by corporate America? Corporate America having no regard for humanity?
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by gorkie on Dec 13, 2011 3:45:57 GMT 1, Napalm-Fat cat corporate Americans who only give a crap about themselves and are totally oblivious to the pain and misery of others including that which is caused by them. And I am an American by the way. But the message is very powerful IMO.
Napalm-Fat cat corporate Americans who only give a crap about themselves and are totally oblivious to the pain and misery of others including that which is caused by them. And I am an American by the way. But the message is very powerful IMO.
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rka00
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by rka00 on Dec 13, 2011 3:57:23 GMT 1, Thanks gorkie, much appreciated. Totally agree, that is a very powerful message and a timely one--occupy.
Thanks gorkie, much appreciated. Totally agree, that is a very powerful message and a timely one--occupy.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Brushstrokes 75 on Dec 13, 2011 4:22:41 GMT 1, i think Napalm also shows the ambivalence through the spectrum of the US society. Mick & Rmc are worlwide symbols for childhood, hope, happiness (and whatever characteristics associated with childhood) which is almost manichean with the use of the original image which shows a young frightened girl running away in tears after a Napalm gas attack (by the US) during the Vietnam War. IMO it's deeper than just the corporate greed, it shows how a country or civilization can bring out the biggest images for youth & happinness while on the other end atrociously destroy it. (The use of Napalm has been banned by the United Nations)
i think Napalm also shows the ambivalence through the spectrum of the US society. Mick & Rmc are worlwide symbols for childhood, hope, happiness (and whatever characteristics associated with childhood) which is almost manichean with the use of the original image which shows a young frightened girl running away in tears after a Napalm gas attack (by the US) during the Vietnam War. IMO it's deeper than just the corporate greed, it shows how a country or civilization can bring out the biggest images for youth & happinness while on the other end atrociously destroy it. (The use of Napalm has been banned by the United Nations)
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rka00
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by rka00 on Dec 13, 2011 4:53:14 GMT 1, And one reason why I love art so much, it can speak at different levels to different people.
gorkie, I think you need to get both (lol).
And one reason why I love art so much, it can speak at different levels to different people.
gorkie, I think you need to get both (lol).
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by vytis33 on Dec 13, 2011 5:46:23 GMT 1, Just wouldn't hang Napalm. NOLA for me.
Good luck!
Just wouldn't hang Napalm. NOLA for me.
Good luck!
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Hubble Bubble
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Hubble Bubble on Dec 13, 2011 8:57:31 GMT 1, So... is it NOLA or is it Napalm...
There's only one way to decide...
FIGHT !!!!
(This will mean nothing to anyone not watching 'Harry Hill's TV Burp in the UK')
So... is it NOLA or is it Napalm... There's only one way to decide... FIGHT !!!! (This will mean nothing to anyone not watching 'Harry Hill's TV Burp in the UK')
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Dec 13, 2011 9:37:52 GMT 1, Napalm for me...
Napalm for me...
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by howlinhooker on Dec 13, 2011 11:01:58 GMT 1, napalm , the printing quality on nola is better but the image i m o ...means alot more than nola ..............hubblebubble im still ear mate just been busy of late !!!
napalm , the printing quality on nola is better but the image i m o ...means alot more than nola ..............hubblebubble im still ear mate just been busy of late !!!
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BorntoKiln
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by BorntoKiln on Dec 13, 2011 11:11:57 GMT 1, Oh man. You guys are helping and not helping all at the same time! Napalm to me is a bit more "brilliant". Just so crazy smart and politically strong. But like I said, Nola has been creeping up on me. What do you think I should have to expect to pay for each of these signed these days? By the way, I thought Nola was supposed to be a statement about New Orleans and the lack of help to shelter people during an intense time of need? Somebody mentioned acid rain and global warming? Thanks! Did someone mention acid?
NAPALM all the way..... You can buy mine if you want? As for the party above, what a night that was. 89 was a great year!!
Oh man. You guys are helping and not helping all at the same time! Napalm to me is a bit more "brilliant". Just so crazy smart and politically strong. But like I said, Nola has been creeping up on me. What do you think I should have to expect to pay for each of these signed these days? By the way, I thought Nola was supposed to be a statement about New Orleans and the lack of help to shelter people during an intense time of need? Somebody mentioned acid rain and global warming? Thanks! Did someone mention acid? NAPALM all the way..... You can buy mine if you want? As for the party above, what a night that was. 89 was a great year!!
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by fairplay1974 on Dec 13, 2011 11:14:54 GMT 1, Napalm for me too, first, but I wouldn't begrudge a Nola either!!
Napalm for me too, first, but I wouldn't begrudge a Nola either!!
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Forbidden Love
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Forbidden Love on Dec 13, 2011 12:13:23 GMT 1, nola all day long!
look at both of them in person, messages aside i think nola is a much better looking print.
nola all day long!
look at both of them in person, messages aside i think nola is a much better looking print.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by PUD on Dec 13, 2011 12:27:59 GMT 1, Napalm is an iconic Banksy image, prices are low as it isn't as wall friendly as Nola however in years to come I think Banksy will be remembered more for images like Napalm long before Nola.
Napalm all the way for me!!!
Napalm is an iconic Banksy image, prices are low as it isn't as wall friendly as Nola however in years to come I think Banksy will be remembered more for images like Napalm long before Nola.
Napalm all the way for me!!!
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Trevorm on Dec 13, 2011 12:37:13 GMT 1, I reckon Nola as well.
MrsM has allowed me to hang 'ours' in the Living Room - not sure I'd be putting up the Napalm, though, even if was lucky enough to acquire one.
A personal choice that you'll have to manage, whatever message you read into them.
I reckon Nola as well.
MrsM has allowed me to hang 'ours' in the Living Room - not sure I'd be putting up the Napalm, though, even if was lucky enough to acquire one.
A personal choice that you'll have to manage, whatever message you read into them.
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Forbidden Love
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Forbidden Love on Dec 13, 2011 12:56:53 GMT 1, Napalm is an iconic Banksy image, prices are low as it isn't as wall friendly as Nola however in years to come I think Banksy will be remembered more for images like Napalm long before Nola. Napalm all the way for me!!!
id have to disagree, i think in the very long run nola will be up there.
Napalm is an iconic Banksy image, prices are low as it isn't as wall friendly as Nola however in years to come I think Banksy will be remembered more for images like Napalm long before Nola. Napalm all the way for me!!! id have to disagree, i think in the very long run nola will be up there.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by eschiff on Dec 13, 2011 13:15:01 GMT 1, i'd go nola, i assumed nola was a nod to new orleans and katrina right? isn't this piece up in NO?
i think that adds a dimension to it that doesn't quite hit you in the face like napalm.
i'd go nola, i assumed nola was a nod to new orleans and katrina right? isn't this piece up in NO?
i think that adds a dimension to it that doesn't quite hit you in the face like napalm.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by saint on Dec 13, 2011 13:19:27 GMT 1, Such different images, one already a true classic banksy, one which i believe will become a classic banksy in the future, if it isn't considered one already....
Almost nonsensical to post this, but does the orientation of the work matter at all? if you had a specific place in mind this may make a difference...
Lets face it, either way you're getting a cracking piece, best of luck deciding...
Such different images, one already a true classic banksy, one which i believe will become a classic banksy in the future, if it isn't considered one already....
Almost nonsensical to post this, but does the orientation of the work matter at all? if you had a specific place in mind this may make a difference...
Lets face it, either way you're getting a cracking piece, best of luck deciding...
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Hubble Bubble
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Hubble Bubble on Dec 13, 2011 13:21:08 GMT 1, ^^ that's the idea I think.
I love looking at my Nola... only really realised the other day that the rain doesn't come down inside the brolly but to the rear of it and she's stepping through into a new beginning. Fabulous piece IMHO but totally different from Napalm.
^^ that's the idea I think.
I love looking at my Nola... only really realised the other day that the rain doesn't come down inside the brolly but to the rear of it and she's stepping through into a new beginning. Fabulous piece IMHO but totally different from Napalm.
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johnnyh
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by johnnyh on Dec 13, 2011 13:36:08 GMT 1, Totally agree Saint - Hubble cracking pieces the two of them so no worries which one you choose. Any way on to more important matters - Hubble about this wife swapping. Should we set up a swingers thread sounds like you would make a good moderator!!!!
Johnny the love machine.....
Totally agree Saint - Hubble cracking pieces the two of them so no worries which one you choose. Any way on to more important matters - Hubble about this wife swapping. Should we set up a swingers thread sounds like you would make a good moderator!!!! Johnny the love machine.....
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by howlinhooker on Dec 13, 2011 13:40:36 GMT 1, WIFE SWAPPING ....................................shame i aint married !!!!!!
WIFE SWAPPING ....................................shame i aint married !!!!!!
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by deepblue on Dec 13, 2011 13:41:19 GMT 1, as a piece of work i agree that Napalm much more significant, but i just couldnt put that on my wall having 2 kids under 6 in the house.
Nola is top of my list (besides barcode) at present - as soon as i have the means i want one above my fire place!
as a piece of work i agree that Napalm much more significant, but i just couldnt put that on my wall having 2 kids under 6 in the house.
Nola is top of my list (besides barcode) at present - as soon as i have the means i want one above my fire place!
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Hubble Bubble
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Hubble Bubble on Dec 13, 2011 13:51:49 GMT 1, Totally agree Saint - Hubble cracking pieces the two of them so no worries which one you choose. Any way on to more important matters - Hubble about this wife swapping. Should we set up a swingers thread sounds like you would make a good moderator!!!! Johnny the love machine.....
Johnny Moderation was never a strong point of mine ;D
Totally agree Saint - Hubble cracking pieces the two of them so no worries which one you choose. Any way on to more important matters - Hubble about this wife swapping. Should we set up a swingers thread sounds like you would make a good moderator!!!! Johnny the love machine..... Johnny Moderation was never a strong point of mine ;D
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by balibob on Dec 13, 2011 13:56:51 GMT 1, Nola for me. but do love them both.
Nola for me. but do love them both.
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johnnyh
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by johnnyh on Dec 13, 2011 13:59:17 GMT 1, Good that thread sounds even better now. No moderation could be in there yet Howlin
Good that thread sounds even better now. No moderation could be in there yet Howlin
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by pidge on Dec 13, 2011 14:38:14 GMT 1, Nola all the way! I think both are classic pieces but Nola has the edge for me....
Nola all the way! I think both are classic pieces but Nola has the edge for me....
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by richhutton on Dec 13, 2011 16:47:46 GMT 1, I would go with the Nola as Ronald McDonald gives me the fear.
I would go with the Nola as Ronald McDonald gives me the fear.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by balibob on Dec 13, 2011 16:49:03 GMT 1, Makes me peckish.
Makes me peckish.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Michael Jacob on Dec 13, 2011 16:53:56 GMT 1, Napalm is one of his greatest images, however, not wall friendly. I tried but my wife just slapped me for even suggesting it hang in our house.
buy both. hang one in your living room, and the other in your closet.
Napalm is one of his greatest images, however, not wall friendly. I tried but my wife just slapped me for even suggesting it hang in our house. buy both. hang one in your living room, and the other in your closet.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by manty on Dec 13, 2011 17:07:07 GMT 1, Oh man. You guys are helping and not helping all at the same time! Napalm to me is a bit more "brilliant". Just so crazy smart and politically strong. But like I said, Nola has been creeping up on me. What do you think I should have to expect to pay for each of these signed these days? By the way, I thought Nola was supposed to be a statement about New Orleans and the lack of help to shelter people during an intense time of need? Somebody mentioned acid rain and global warming? Thanks! Did someone mention acid?
errrr. I think i am in that picture. 1984?
Oh man. You guys are helping and not helping all at the same time! Napalm to me is a bit more "brilliant". Just so crazy smart and politically strong. But like I said, Nola has been creeping up on me. What do you think I should have to expect to pay for each of these signed these days? By the way, I thought Nola was supposed to be a statement about New Orleans and the lack of help to shelter people during an intense time of need? Somebody mentioned acid rain and global warming? Thanks! Did someone mention acid? errrr. I think i am in that picture. 1984?
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by manty on Dec 13, 2011 17:08:53 GMT 1, Napalm is one of his greatest images, however, not wall friendly. I tried but my wife just slapped me for even suggesting it hang in our house. buy both. hang one in your living room, and the other in your closet.
Mary always gets the big No No from my better half
Napalm is one of his greatest images, however, not wall friendly. I tried but my wife just slapped me for even suggesting it hang in our house. buy both. hang one in your living room, and the other in your closet. Mary always gets the big No No from my better half
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