[graeme501]

i like a bit of tagging, the form always interests me, and when u look up, and u see something high up in an unusual place, makes u go hmmmmm

[gbh]

we all know jboy can be "out spoken" from time to time...

but don't we have enough "let's hammer jboy" threads already (god knows I've participated in my fair share as well, just trying to reform my ways)?

I'm all for tagging, nothing brings me more joy than analysing each tag for style and placement that I see around the city daily.

I will say this though, if your tag is totally shit, do some work on it before hitting up everywhere.

[romanywg]

When someone says "jumping onto tube tracks where i really hope one will hit him one day" I think they deserve all the hammering they deserve. Should be banned IMO.

[thegreatarchitect]

Feb 21, 2009 1:56:54 GMT 1 bullet said:

s**t vandal

no artistic merit apart from jumping onto tube tracks where i really hope one will hit him one day

IMO

I have no tolerance with this lavatorial vandalism, but i think you should reconsider what you have just said as it smacks of infantile barbarism where IMO is never a get out clause that allows for justification. There have been a number of fatalities due to this foolish idea that it serves as some sense of identity but their deaths and the suffering caused is rather a high price to pay do you not think? TWIT or t**t

[hick]

Feb 21, 2009 14:35:17 GMT 1 gbh said:

we all know jboy can be "out spoken" from time to time...

but don't we have enough "let's hammer jboy" threads already (god knows I've participated in my fair share as well, just trying to reform my ways)?

I'm all for tagging, nothing brings me more joy than analysing each tag for style and placement that I see around the city daily.

I will say this though, if your tag is totally s**t, do some work on it before hitting up everywhere.

we dont have enough hammer jboy threads if you ask me, i'll start a new one...


silky you should lock him out for this , if i get locked for saying hutch is shit jboy wishing death on someone deserves at least that you fucking cretin

[graeme501]

yeah hick i totally agree

if people get banned for calling hutch or cartain shit, and calling people a c**t(in a tongue in cheek way i might add) then this has to be banned

[gbh]

THE INTERNET = SERIOUS BUSINESS

[onemandown72]

Feb 21, 2009 1:56:54 GMT 1 bullet said:

s**t vandal

no artistic merit apart from jumping onto tube tracks where i really hope one will hit him one day

IMO

Dear oh dear oh dear, you're either taking the proverbial (in incredibly poor taste), or you have absolutley no conception of how broad the umbrella of stret art is and the integral part that tagging has always played. Why do you feel the need to post like this - of you don't like it either keep quiet or be constructive in criticism.
Silky there is no place for Jboy on this forum

[Count Jedi]

We have known Jboy long enough to know he will always write something that will get peoples backs up and it works everytime...

[Deleted]

ah but u see count in this instance i don't mind as it keeps a thread about something I find central to this street art world alive....so let him spout his bollox

[bullet]

im allowed an opinion...

IMO

I see these tags everyday, carved into tube trains with knives.

these are street gangs, not artists.

your paying for crime and injustice not art. Banksy is different as its clever art well placed - tox is nothing apart from a chav who finds his way around London underground pissing everyone off

[Count Jedi]

Feb 21, 2009 16:27:48 GMT 1 @badrobot said:

ah but u see count in this instance i don't mind as it keeps a thread about something I find central to this street art world alive....so let him spout his bollox

Very good point

[bullet]

if gary glitter released a print, i guarantee people from this forum will buy it.

theres is a line between good and bad. its tasteless and un-original

[thegreatarchitect]

Feb 21, 2009 16:46:52 GMT 1 bullet said:

im allowed an opinion...

IMO

I see these tags everyday, carved into tube trains with knives.

these are street gangs, not artists.

your paying for crime and injustice not art. Banksy is different as its clever art well placed - tox is nothing apart from a chav who finds his way around London underground pissing everyone off

Your paper thin justifications now read like idiotic INFANTILE sprawlings GEEZ Your outrageously dumb posts read as mealy to gain some attention that was lost to you as a child, Do you wear boxing gloves when eating an ice cream? I only ask because thats the vision i have of you 'WITH KNIFES' 'ON THE UNDERGROUND''
your little better than the people you condemn. its Time you did the decent thing and fall on you sword

[thegreatarchitect]

Feb 21, 2009 17:25:12 GMT 1 bullet said:

if gary glitter released a print, i guarantee people from this forum will buy it.

theres is a line between good and bad. its tasteless and un-original

SHUTUP

[bullet]

fine, if you want to pay and condone thugs who carry knives..be my guest.

just wait until somone you know gets stabbed. Unless you live in the burbs, where wait until they get hit by a spade.

[cashman]

Feb 21, 2009 17:31:43 GMT 1 bullet said:

fine, if you want to pay and condone thugs who carry knives..be my guest.

just wait until somone you know gets stabbed. Unless you live in the burbs, where wait until they get hit by a spade.

so your now saying tox is a knife wielding murderer ?
seriuosly jboy i try to like you, but all you do is chat shit
absolutely clueless

[bullet]

dont be a moron, its gang culture.

clueless.

[bullet]

got a question for everyone on here...

What do you think tagging is?

Because i know tagging is to do with territories in cities, banksy is not a tagger he is a street artist.

Gangs tag on other gangs patches to piss them off.

[thegreatarchitect]

i think you will find that most graffiti crews are white middle class
they don't carry knives. they have little interest in such culture. you probably thinking about the boys you hang around with geez

[bullet]

white middle class... dont think so

[members]

Free range is a clueless art fag. TOX, EINE, FUME, TEACH, 10 FOOT ect are not gangs just graffiti artists. You know nothing about the scene and never will. These are all real GRAFFITI ARTISTS who don't care about the £££££ and just do it for the love of it.

[bullet]

interesting..but you dont know me.

try posting under your real username.

[hermit]

It's all about getting up

[members]

So you do know something about the london grafffiti scene?

[Replete]

Just to clarify street gangs and graffiti crews are entirely different entities as are their aims. Gangs mark their territory (usally a small area limitied to a few streets or housing estate) and defend their borders against other gangs with the use of violence.

Graffiti crews place tags to show where they've been for other writers to see in order to gain fame/respect in their peers eyes and the ultimate goal is to have your tags etc in as many places throughout the place they live also termed as "all city".

There is competition and one upmanship between crews but rarley results in any violence between crews and is almost unheard of any graffiti writer attacking a member of the public in the course of their activities.

And bombers come from all walks of life but in the UK a high percentage are actually middle class and usually involved in art and design courses and are the friendliest people you could hope to meet.

[howler]

Here you go JBoy a little history lesson from the not a crap tagger Banksy, check out the quality street art .


Photo by knautia flickr.com/photos/knautia/

[angel41]

Tagging is an art form, period. Soul typography.

[Steal From Work]

dds are a gang more or less, but it's still graffiti.....and nowt to do with street art. different argument, different world. but i don't think it makes any of these things less valid than the other. get it straight, this is graffiti, tagging is graffiti, graffiti is the oldest art form in the world, tagging is art, no one knows what art is, no one knows what art isn't, no one can tell anyone else what is and isn't permissable. they can try, but they'd be assuming their opinion was worth something, which in the scheme of things, and with enough perspective, they'd be able to see was feeble at best.
graffiti has always had an affiliation with gang culture in some respects, and while middle class kids have turned it into a lifestyle, it's still absolutely linked to the streets and a sense of tribal and geographical identity. but so what? and why, while we can appreciate old school nyc and philly graff which has out and out links to gang culture, can't we accept the same coming out of our capital....if that makes any sense. everything is and will continue to be.....
naus bags art fags and chav chiefs with nowt better to do than shoplift north face all day, everyone's got their place in the grand scheme of things.
seen

[Steal From Work]

and this print is alive with more history and seminal anarchy and energy than most of the witless douche baggery perpetrated in and around this forum in the name of art, street, graffiti or otherwise.
viva tox09