Rene Gagnon 🇺🇸 Graffiti Art • Painting • Art For Sale

[stvro22]

Are
you
him

[eschiff]

poor man's brainwash

[Lroy]

No, I am her...

[sgolby]

Visual Plagiarist Extraordinaire 

[Lroy]

My statue of Marianne ( and avatar ) can attest that I have tits. Lol too much beers.

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spraycans before Brainwash

(I like his work very much)

[Lroy]

Oct 15, 2014 20:31:27 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Visual Plagiarist Extraordinaire 

Ah aha, love that, not a VIP but a VPE

 "Hype"  you mean ?
or you are serious ? 

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Oct 15, 2014 20:31:27 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Visual Plagiarist Extraordinaire 

how so? (not having a go - would like an example, besides Happy Drones, which he did as a joke after Banksy copied him).  I wasn't aware of any other plagiarism claims

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Sincere form flattery?

[doctor]

He's underappreciated

[sgolby]

Oct 15, 2014 20:34:46 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:31:27 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Visual Plagiarist Extraordinaire 

Ah aha, love that, not a VIP but a VPE

 "Hype"  you mean ?
or you are serious ? 

NO, I am totally serious.  I like nothing about his work.  His website seems to be a supermarket for his own work, which quite literally consists of poor copies or spins on themes that have been done ad-nausea.  I read about how he wants to bridge the gap between urban art and contemporary abstract expressionism, yet there is absolutely nothing abstract about what I see of his work.  Essentially I see a joker trying to cash out on a trend by re-hashing other peoples ideas. 
Fact is, if he really was trying to meld urban art with abstract expressionism, a-la Jose Parla, I might like his work...  Just y feelings, and I hope I do not offend anyone.
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[Nick]

Rip off merchant

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The more famous Rene Gagnon....


en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_the_Flag_on_Iwo_Jima

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Oct 15, 2014 20:43:40 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:34:46 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Ah aha, love that, not a VIP but a VPE

 "Hype"  you mean ?
or you are serious ? 

NO, I am totally serious.  I like nothing about his work.  His website seems to be a supermarket for his own work, which quite literally consists of poor copies or spins on themes that have been done ad-nausea.  I read about how he wants to bridge the gap between urban art and contemporary abstract expressionism, yet there is absolutely nothing abstract about what I see of his work.  Essentially I see a joker trying to cash out on a trend by re-hashing other peoples ideas. 
Fact is, if he really was trying to meld urban art with abstract expressionism, a-la Jose Parla, I might like his work...  Just y feelings, and I hope I do not offend anyone.
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he was doing his thing for years (since the late 80's I believe) before stencils caught the mainstream's eye.  I'd say it's the other way around - most people are copying him

[sgolby]

Oct 15, 2014 20:36:15 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:31:27 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Visual Plagiarist Extraordinaire 

how so? (not having a go - would like an example, besides Happy Drones, which he did as a joke after Banksy copied him).  I wasn't aware of any other plagiarism claims

No Prob, here are some... 







That is just a few.  As for the whole who did it first thing, I don't know the facts, it just seems silly to redo something after it has already been done by the most recognizable name in the urban art world...  There is 0 originality to his work...  In my opinion...

[WOOF]

Oct 15, 2014 20:46:35 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:43:40 GMT 1 sgolby said:

NO, I am totally serious.  I like nothing about his work.  His website seems to be a supermarket for his own work, which quite literally consists of poor copies or spins on themes that have been done ad-nausea.  I read about how he wants to bridge the gap between urban art and contemporary abstract expressionism, yet there is absolutely nothing abstract about what I see of his work.  Essentially I see a joker trying to cash out on a trend by re-hashing other peoples ideas. 
Fact is, if he really was trying to meld urban art with abstract expressionism, a-la Jose Parla, I might like his work...  Just y feelings, and I hope I do not offend anyone.
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he was doing his thing for years before stencils caught the mainstream's eye.  I'd say it's the other way around - most people are copying him

I think it's more about the seemingly complete lack of original thought in any of his work...

Just out of curiosity, do you have any evidence to support your claim that "most people are copying him." Not trying to be a dick, legitimately asking. 

[Lroy]

Well , this thread seems serious... ;-)
Good !
Thank you for your answer, it helps me a lot.

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Oct 15, 2014 20:49:12 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:36:15 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

how so? (not having a go - would like an example, besides Happy Drones, which he did as a joke after Banksy copied him).  I wasn't aware of any other plagiarism claims

No Prob, here are some... 

</div>I get what you're saying, but he didn't do the Banksy imitation pieces (like the one above) until after Banksy used his Praying Boy.  I think it's supposed to be tounge-and-cheek - like "you copied me, so I copy you now".  And Marilyn is overused so much now that it doesn't really "belong" to anybody.  Same with Mona Lisa, guns, and many more.  Whether or not you like his work is one thing (I would never tell another person their opinion on art is wrong), but I think the plagiarism attacks are better suited to Mr Brainwash (who copied this spraycans) and others

[sgolby]

Oct 15, 2014 20:46:35 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:43:40 GMT 1 sgolby said:

NO, I am totally serious.  I like nothing about his work.  His website seems to be a supermarket for his own work, which quite literally consists of poor copies or spins on themes that have been done ad-nausea.  I read about how he wants to bridge the gap between urban art and contemporary abstract expressionism, yet there is absolutely nothing abstract about what I see of his work.  Essentially I see a joker trying to cash out on a trend by re-hashing other peoples ideas. 
Fact is, if he really was trying to meld urban art with abstract expressionism, a-la Jose Parla, I might like his work...  Just y feelings, and I hope I do not offend anyone.
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he was doing his thing for years (since the late 80's I believe) before stencils caught the mainstream's eye.  I'd say it's the other way around - most people are copying him

Fed,
I am sure he has been doing his thing.  I just don't have a feeling for him, and when I look at his work, it seems to me that he is the one copying and copying poorly at that... the flip side is that if people are copying him and gaining notoriety for it, then he can't be that good at what he does...


@federationofideas this should also answer the last comment you made.

I completely see where you are coming from, it just doesn't work for me. 

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Oct 15, 2014 20:50:37 GMT 1 WOOF said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:46:35 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

he was doing his thing for years before stencils caught the mainstream's eye.  I'd say it's the other way around - most people are copying him

I think it's more about the seemingly complete lack of original thought in any of his work...

Just out of curiosity, do you have any evidence to support your claim that "most people are copying him." Not trying to be a dick, legitimately asking. 

I just meant it in the general sense - he's been doing stencil work for years, before many of the current popular stencil artists.  how can he be plagairising if he was doing it before them?

But obviously, the biggest example is Praying Boy, painted 2 years before Banksy copied his:

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Oct 15, 2014 20:55:39 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:46:35 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

he was doing his thing for years (since the late 80's I believe) before stencils caught the mainstream's eye.  I'd say it's the other way around - most people are copying him

Fed,
I am sure he has been doing his thing.  I just don't have a feeling for him, and when I look at his work, it seems to me that he is the one copying and copying poorly at that... the flip side is that if people are copying him and gaining notoriety for it, then he can't be that good at what he does...

fair point.  if you don't like him, you don't like him.  no disagreement from me there.  I'm not trying to argue his work is good or bad - just that he isn't the villain he is often made out to be

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I like this

[sgolby]

Oct 15, 2014 20:57:16 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:55:39 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Fed,
I am sure he has been doing his thing.  I just don't have a feeling for him, and when I look at his work, it seems to me that he is the one copying and copying poorly at that... the flip side is that if people are copying him and gaining notoriety for it, then he can't be that good at what he does...

fair point.  if you don't like him, you don't like him.  no disagreement from me there.  I'm not trying to argue his work is good or bad - just that he isn't the villain he is often made out to be

Word up my man.  You are right, I shouldn't accuse anyone of plagiarism in an urban art world where copies of copies of copies of copies are the norm, and identifying the original is like trying to find patient zero in Liberia...

[sgolby]

Oct 15, 2014 20:59:23 GMT 1 @ekap said:

I like this

HA!  I do too!!  When is that from?

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Oct 15, 2014 20:59:45 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:57:16 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

fair point.  if you don't like him, you don't like him.  no disagreement from me there.  I'm not trying to argue his work is good or bad - just that he isn't the villain he is often made out to be

Word up my man.  You are right, I shouldn't accuse anyone of plagiarism in an urban art world where copies of copies of copies of copies are the norm, and identifying the original is like trying to find patient zero in Liberia...

well stated   some images (like Marilyn, Mona Lisa) kind of belong to the collective consciousness now. 

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I always liked this one:

[sgolby]

Oct 15, 2014 21:01:32 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:59:45 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Word up my man.  You are right, I shouldn't accuse anyone of plagiarism in an urban art world where copies of copies of copies of copies are the norm, and identifying the original is like trying to find patient zero in Liberia...

well stated   some images (like Marilyn, Mona Lisa) kind of belong to the collective consciousness now. 

INDEED... perhaps we should start a list of Public Domain Street Art Themes...

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Oct 15, 2014 21:00:18 GMT 1 sgolby said:

Oct 15, 2014 20:59:23 GMT 1 @ekap said:

I like this

HA!  I do too!!  When is that from?

I got it from Rene direct. Shoved it in a frame and it hangs in my sons bedroom.

[WOOF]

Oct 15, 2014 21:02:29 GMT 1 @federationofideas said:

I always liked this one:

Maybe it's beyond my limited art critiquing abilities, but I don't get that at all.

[sgolby]

Oct 15, 2014 21:04:53 GMT 1 @ekap said:

Oct 15, 2014 21:00:18 GMT 1 sgolby said:

HA!  I do too!!  When is that from?

I got it from Rene direct. Shoved it in a frame and it hangs in my sons bedroom.

Now that is dope... Nice pickup. 

Even I can be wrong... I guess I shouldn't speak for the totality of his work, when there are obviously gems that I have never seen.
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