Banksy STREET ART

[cosmic]

Please , it's clearly fake , as was the piece on ebay that after being promoted here will no doubt be relisted back on ebay soon

[PS]

Nov 8, 2022 10:02:13 GMT 1 @thetopcat said:

Don't think it is fake Cosmic, did a reverse image search and only the above photo was returned, someone would of had to photoshopped the sale sign out which would leave signs of tampering for anyone with basic PS knowledge

Also look at the image reverse search returned for me, on the left door there's paint fade where the piece used to be?

🤣 @thetopcat BS so the weed growing beneath the postbox has been the same size for 20 years. 

Must try harder.

[Deleted]

Okay 2 points if I may

1. It's not mine, I know enough to not buy crap from ebay and post here in a attempt to add provenance, so it's not being promoted

2. Explain why the paint fade matches the size of the piece exactly?

This forum is great for many reasons, great place to talk to people with similar interests as yourself and I place to grab a bargain now and again but its too quick to scream fake at any street piece that turns up

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Because someone painted it took a photo and buffed it, maybe...?
Word word word word

[cosmic]

Please delete this silly fake image , it just makes coming to this forum every now and again painful once again

[STP]

Nov 8, 2022 11:17:56 GMT 1 PS said:

Nov 8, 2022 10:02:13 GMT 1 @thetopcat said:

Don't think it is fake Cosmic, did a reverse image search and only the above photo was returned, someone would of had to photoshopped the sale sign out which would leave signs of tampering for anyone with basic PS knowledge

Also look at the image reverse search returned for me, on the left door there's paint fade where the piece used to be?

🤣 @thetopcat BS so the weed growing beneath the postbox has been the same size for 20 years. 

Must try harder.

The same weed and various other detritus in exactly the same positions was the first thing I noticed too.

[Deleted]

Seems a lot of effort for only a couple of grand on ebay no?

Anyway I don't care its not mine and my lunch is getting cold

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Best to keep as a reference to prevent anyone getting scammed

[cosmic]

He has deleted his UAA account
Here is the seller of this fake piece so people can avoid
ebay.co.uk/usr/flat_line07

[Terry Fuckwitt]

He shouldn't have deleted his account if it had nothing to do with him. Now makes him look like he's involved

[huddleforrest]

Here's the real street piece, on concrete in Islington back early doors when he'd just moved to London:

[7star]

I hate getting involved with street piece talk as it always ends with disagreement.

But I think the photos fake for the points PS put above, that said the actual piece looks right for an early B, rat mother I believe it's called but still worthless without acknowledgement from PC which obviously won't happen.

[huddleforrest]

Nov 8, 2022 12:59:48 GMT 1 7star said:

I hate getting involved with street piece talk as it always ends with disagreement.

But I think the photos fake for the points PS put above, that said the actual piece looks right for an early B, rat mother I believe it's called but still worthless without acknowledgement from PC which obviously won't happen.

He did a version of this image on canvas in 2003, which was called "Love Rat".

[7star]

Ah didn't know he did a canvas version, now that I love.

Sothebys Paris for £70 odd grand in 2017 according to Google.

[Dice]

Nov 7, 2022 15:31:22 GMT 1 bombsquad said:

Location and placement are always key to Banksy’s street pieces. This is placed in Independence Square, in front of the Independence monument and given its such a public place and in the middle of a war zone I would imagine the piece was created at speed, hence the execution being rough and ready. Banksy has certainly used silhouette's and children as elements in his artworks many times previously. Whoever created it, its a strong piece, given the location and the use of the anti tank "hedgehog" as an improvised seesaw. Let’s hope there is more to come.

One thing I have noticed is that it looks like whoever created it was disturbed. Look at the placement of the grey undercoat on the anti tank barrier, it lines up with the children in the background and it looks like the creator was going to paint in the front legs on the metal with black top coat, as if they were hanging over the barrier, but they did not get the chance to complete it.

Yep makes sense. Who has time for undercoats in a warzone though! Application, drying time, reapplication...maybe they were heading back but didn't make it

[cosmic]

I think the grey paint was already there , you can see it on the other beam which runs towards the camera

[Icecream Man]

Another?

http://instagram.com/p/CkwkDa_IoO3

I’m not fond of the word count. I’m not fond of the word count. I’m not fond of the word count.

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Long time coming, but good to see him back😎
I expect we'll see a few more over the next few days

[Deleted]

Brilliant, great to see him active and this is a really good piece, love it!

[tomega]

Brilliant! Clearly Putin being dished some just deserved punishment by an under dog as depicted by the child. 

[elzerman]

Surely this is Banksy, are we all agreed now? Anyone still on the fence? Word

[Fast Eddie]

Definitely. Banksy is in Ukraine now. These new gymnasts stencils are 100% his. Great to see him in action, at scale.

[Fast Eddie]

It is confirmed on Banksy's IG now. QED. Mr. B is back at it. We missed him.

[Sam Am]

New Banksy “Morning is broken” - insta 

[met]

Mar 15, 2023 12:57:57 GMT 1 Sam Am said:

New Banksy “Morning is broken” - insta 

Cheers for posting, Sam Am.

A great piece, in my view.

Its tone is classic Banksy, combining grim humour and dryness with a rather cheerful whimsy.



I am especially fond of two elements:


1.  The misleading simplicity, which is characteristic of the artist

This installation required greater planning, effort and actual work than what is evident at first glance.

Some relatively challenging aspects of the creation, such as the window curtains made with corrugated steel sheets, can easily go unnoticed. Like an illusionist or professional athlete, Banksy makes it all look pretty easy.


2.  The execution of the fill-ins for the boy and his cat

Relative perfection with the silhouettes could have been achieved without difficulty. However, pristineness was deliberately shunned in favour of roughness.

What we end up with is a more interesting texture/aesthetic. And also a certain fast-and-loose spirit (even if calculated) that is engaging to viewers like myself — who are drawn to the anarchic, graffiti side of street art, more so than to the clinical, graphic-design-style influences within the scene.



Additional comments:


3.  Query whether parts of this installation might possibly have been salvaged prior to the wall being knocked down.

I hope not. Because, perception-wise, complete destruction makes for a much better story. Though it does remain a possibility.


4.  My one general criticism is Banksy's consistent use of somewhat feeble puns — in this instance, Morning is broken.

A little too often, those puns are just not strong enough to be deemed very clever. And they also are not terrible enough to be knowingly poor, in a so-bad-it's-funny kind of way.

But, granted, they do have the benefit of being memorable, as was also the case with Valentine's day mascara.

[STP]

Agree with most everything met has said, though I rather like the play on words of the title - Morning Is Broken rather than Morning Has Broken.

[G$]

Is title slightly more, or slightly less, clever than Fr/agile? Equally lame?

[met]

Mar 15, 2023 16:07:32 GMT 1 met said:

Mar 15, 2023 12:57:57 GMT 1 Sam Am said:

New Banksy “Morning is broken” - insta 

Cheers for posting, Sam Am.

A great piece, in my view.

Its tone is classic Banksy, combining grim humour and dryness with a rather cheerful whimsy.



I am especially fond of two elements:


1.  The misleading simplicity, which is characteristic of the artist

This installation required greater planning, effort and actual work than what is evident at first glance.

Some relatively challenging aspects of the creation, such as the window curtains made with corrugated steel sheets, can easily go unnoticed. Like an illusionist or professional athlete, Banksy makes it all look pretty easy.


2.  The execution of the fill-ins for the boy and his cat

Relative perfection with the silhouettes could have been achieved without difficulty. However, pristineness was deliberately shunned in favour of roughness.

What we end up with is a more interesting texture/aesthetic. And also a certain fast-and-loose spirit (even if calculated) that is engaging to viewers like myself — who are drawn to the anarchic, graffiti side of street art, more so than to the clinical, graphic-design-style influences within the scene.



Additional comments:


3.  Query whether parts of this installation might possibly have been salvaged prior to the wall being knocked down.

I hope not. Because, perception-wise, complete destruction makes for a much better story. Though it does remain a possibility.


4.  My one general criticism is Banksy's consistent use of somewhat feeble puns — in this instance, Morning is broken.

A little too often, those puns are just not strong enough to be deemed very clever. And they also are not terrible enough to be knowingly poor, in a so-bad-it's-funny kind of way.

But, granted, they do have the benefit of being memorable, as was also the case with Valentine's day mascara.

Press update regarding point 3 above:


www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/news/broken-pieces-of-banksy-artwork-fished-out-of-skip-283802/



Remains of Banksy artwork on Blacksole Farm building near Herne Bay recovered from skip

Chantal Weller [e-mail]
Published: 17:00, 15 March 2023 | Updated: 17:17, 15 March 2023


The remains of a Banksy artwork which could have sold for millions have been fished out of a skip after it was torn down by oblivious builders.

The artist confirmed the piece on the side of a derelict building at Blacksole Farm near Herne Bay earlier today - but it had already been demolished.



Builders have found a large part of the Banksy artwork in Herne Bay. Picture: Adam Brooks


Workmen at the site told KentOnline they "felt sick" after finding out the stencilled image on the side of the 500-year-old former farmhouse was a genuine Banksy.

Work by the elusive artist has been sold in the past for millions of pounds.

Banksy fan Adam Brooks was lucky enough to catch a glimpse of the work as builders pulled it out of the skip.

"I went to have lunch and saw the Banksy post on Instagram," he said.

"I recognised the building straight away and I was only a minute away so I jumped in my van and went down there.

"I spoke to the builders and they said they had seen someone in black on the hill this morning taking a photo of the building but did not think anything of it.

"Since this morning, their bosses have phoned and told them to try and dig out any of the Banksy piece from the skip."



Banksy confirmed he was behind the piece on the side of the derelict building this morning. Picture: Adam Brooks


While Mr Brooks was speaking with the builders, others on the site managed to find a large piece of rubble which had most of the artwork on.

"It was like finding treasure," he said.

"I have a couple of Banksy prints but not originals.

"To see a piece that had freshly come off a building was pretty cool.

"It was like the holy grail coming out of a skip."

[...]

Mr Brooks lives in Mill Lane, which is very close to the site, and says it is exciting to think Banksy has been right on his doorstep.

"I think it is more exciting that he has come to Herne Bay. It is nice to see something so local," he said.

"I really like Banksy art and to have it initially in my road it makes me think 'did he drive past my house, did I walk past him on the street?' - it is a bit exciting.

"I think he must have wanted it to be destroyed because he usually posts his work if he wants people to see it.

"He has obviously been hanging around for it to be demolished so it is obviously his intention that it was destroyed in some way for this particular piece.

"I know a lot of his pieces tend to be more political whereas the 'Morning has broken' piece really was about a derelict building being torn down."

The artwork featured a silhouette of a boy pulling open corrugated iron curtains, with a cat peering out from behind him.

[Sam Am]

Chuffed to come across this absolute golden oldie (2006) here in Naples. 🇮🇹 

[hnkpnk]

Apr 7, 2023 20:01:52 GMT 1 Sam Am said:

Chuffed to come across this absolute golden oldie (2006) here in Naples. 🇮🇹 

I believe it’s a couple of years older than 2006.