walters
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by walters on Feb 18, 2009 13:09:37 GMT 1, hehe,that eelus is very cheeky.
hehe,that eelus is very cheeky.
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iamdoom
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by iamdoom on Feb 18, 2009 13:29:13 GMT 1, that's what you get for making cool stuff man!  and posting all them hi-res images on flickr... you make it way to easy for them man!
get what he's trying to say with artistic license to replicate an image but there's a difference between using and stealing an image... he's just using the same blabla all them copycats hide behind to justify their stealing.
that's what you get for making cool stuff man!  and posting all them hi-res images on flickr... you make it way to easy for them man! get what he's trying to say with artistic license to replicate an image but there's a difference between using and stealing an image... he's just using the same blabla all them copycats hide behind to justify their stealing.
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by schlomo on Feb 18, 2009 14:16:09 GMT 1, Scandalous! thats not just copying an idea and adding your own style, its blatantly copying man. Can understand why you're so angry about it. As other peeps have said tho matey it shows you're doing something right, even if that doesnt make it any better.....
Scandalous! thats not just copying an idea and adding your own style, its blatantly copying man. Can understand why you're so angry about it. As other peeps have said tho matey it shows you're doing something right, even if that doesnt make it any better.....
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by crazyarsemother on Feb 18, 2009 14:28:42 GMT 1, This is pretty outragerous and so is that reply. You ought to put this on the main thread. As far I am aware he is in breach of copyright that you own because it is your image. Look at Cartrain and Hirst. It is flatering granted but it is also against the law. What he says is rubbish about Warhol etc, forget it all. He is not making an artistic statement he has made a product.
I would definately make sure Eelus is aware of this and would email Stella Dore and POW too. They will have advisors and be able to send a much more impressive email I am sure. There is a British website about intellectual property that will give you advice. I had to ring them in an emergency and they were great. You can also officially register your image there.
www.ipo.gov.uk
I think you will be suprised how quickly he backs down. It will give the neccassary law to reapproach ETSY and make them aware.
Us forum artists need to look after each other. It could be anyone of us next. If nothing else this is a matter of British pride afgainst the bully boys of the US of A - go David - fire that sling.
This is pretty outragerous and so is that reply. You ought to put this on the main thread. As far I am aware he is in breach of copyright that you own because it is your image. Look at Cartrain and Hirst. It is flatering granted but it is also against the law. What he says is rubbish about Warhol etc, forget it all. He is not making an artistic statement he has made a product. I would definately make sure Eelus is aware of this and would email Stella Dore and POW too. They will have advisors and be able to send a much more impressive email I am sure. There is a British website about intellectual property that will give you advice. I had to ring them in an emergency and they were great. You can also officially register your image there. www.ipo.gov.ukI think you will be suprised how quickly he backs down. It will give the neccassary law to reapproach ETSY and make them aware. Us forum artists need to look after each other. It could be anyone of us next. If nothing else this is a matter of British pride afgainst the bully boys of the US of A - go David - fire that sling.
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by crazyarsemother on Feb 18, 2009 14:33:30 GMT 1, Sorry Fake, are you Dutch? No matter. Go for it. Out of interest send us the email that you sent him. It sounds great.
Sorry Fake, are you Dutch? No matter. Go for it. Out of interest send us the email that you sent him. It sounds great.
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Fake
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by Fake on Feb 18, 2009 14:44:55 GMT 1, this is the first email I have sent him: Hi, my Name is FAKE. I think you know me. Or lets say, my work....
Take this work down ASAP! Or I will have to take the appropriate actions against you! 17 February 2009 3:26am EDT
this is the first email I have sent him: Hi, my Name is FAKE. I think you know me. Or lets say, my work....
Take this work down ASAP! Or I will have to take the appropriate actions against you! 17 February 2009 3:26am EDT
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by Fake on Feb 18, 2009 14:45:38 GMT 1, this is the first email I have sent him: Hi, my Name is FAKE. I think you know me. Or lets say, my work.... Take this work down ASAP! Or I will have to take the appropriate actions against you! 17 February 2009 3:26am EDT
Its not that great..... 
this is the first email I have sent him: Hi, my Name is FAKE. I think you know me. Or lets say, my work.... Take this work down ASAP! Or I will have to take the appropriate actions against you! 17 February 2009 3:26am EDT Its not that great..... 
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by crazyarsemother on Feb 18, 2009 14:51:49 GMT 1, No but its also not that rude. Think about the sort of person who does this. He is obviously very lazy. Interested in short term gains and not that bothered about being liked. What matters to him is to make a bit of cash any which way.
Visit that website and then ring up or get someone else to and get advise. I really think you should make a stand and I also think its a good experience to share and learn from. It will be alright. His email is rather bullyish. He's a coward really.
No but its also not that rude. Think about the sort of person who does this. He is obviously very lazy. Interested in short term gains and not that bothered about being liked. What matters to him is to make a bit of cash any which way.
Visit that website and then ring up or get someone else to and get advise. I really think you should make a stand and I also think its a good experience to share and learn from. It will be alright. His email is rather bullyish. He's a coward really.
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iamdoom
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by iamdoom on Feb 18, 2009 14:55:10 GMT 1, "So long as you have created and fixed, for example in writing, an original work that qualifies for copyright protection, that is it falls into one of the categories of material protected by copyright, you will have copyright protection without having to do anything to establish this. It is a requirement of various international conventions on copyright that copyright should be automatic with no need to register."
so i guess he's full of shit and you have copyright law on your side...
"So long as you have created and fixed, for example in writing, an original work that qualifies for copyright protection, that is it falls into one of the categories of material protected by copyright, you will have copyright protection without having to do anything to establish this. It is a requirement of various international conventions on copyright that copyright should be automatic with no need to register."
so i guess he's full of shit and you have copyright law on your side...
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iamdoom
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by iamdoom on Feb 18, 2009 14:55:55 GMT 1, maybe a thread about copyright info on the main site would be nice to have 
maybe a thread about copyright info on the main site would be nice to have 
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by crazyarsemother on Feb 18, 2009 15:06:26 GMT 1, Good work IAMDOOM. Fake I am sure the sort of person who would do this and do it so badly is not the sort of person that would put much effort into defending themselves - trust me. He will be selling fake DVDs next week.
Good work IAMDOOM. Fake I am sure the sort of person who would do this and do it so badly is not the sort of person that would put much effort into defending themselves - trust me. He will be selling fake DVDs next week.
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Fake
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by Fake on Feb 18, 2009 15:08:43 GMT 1, Good work IAMDOOM. Fake I am sure the sort of person who would do this and do it so badly is not the sort of person that would put much effort into defending themselves - trust me. He will be selling fake DVDs next week. hehe....
Good work IAMDOOM. Fake I am sure the sort of person who would do this and do it so badly is not the sort of person that would put much effort into defending themselves - trust me. He will be selling fake DVDs next week. hehe....
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Fake
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SOME Fookin NERVE!!! , by Fake on Feb 18, 2009 15:10:41 GMT 1, I will contact ht eEtsy guy one more time then!..
I will contact ht eEtsy guy one more time then!..
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