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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Mar 14, 2010 4:30:38 GMT 1, Who knows, the Monty Python ''Run Away'' technique was used.
Who knows, the Monty Python ''Run Away'' technique was used.
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oddkabob
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JetSet Graffiti, by oddkabob on Mar 14, 2010 6:43:29 GMT 1, This isn't + or - about Jetset, but every print has additional prints in the edition size and whether they are A/Ps or P/Ps or other proofs, the owner can do whatever they want with them.
My wish is that publishers would fully disclose the complete edition size when a print is sold. As a buyer I want to know how many proofs the artist is getting on top of the run, how many printer's proofs are being made, trial proofs, bon a tirers, hors commerce, etc. But the numbers are rarely disclosed and maybe we as buyers should be letting the publishers know we want a full account on the print runs.
Galleries and individual artists should start letting us know how many more prints there are on top of the numbered edition because eventually those prints will make their way into the marketplace.
This isn't + or - about Jetset, but every print has additional prints in the edition size and whether they are A/Ps or P/Ps or other proofs, the owner can do whatever they want with them.
My wish is that publishers would fully disclose the complete edition size when a print is sold. As a buyer I want to know how many proofs the artist is getting on top of the run, how many printer's proofs are being made, trial proofs, bon a tirers, hors commerce, etc. But the numbers are rarely disclosed and maybe we as buyers should be letting the publishers know we want a full account on the print runs.
Galleries and individual artists should start letting us know how many more prints there are on top of the numbered edition because eventually those prints will make their way into the marketplace.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Ottomatik on Mar 14, 2010 16:41:48 GMT 1, Understand your point. However as stated in the first post on this page. DFace did not have knowledge that this PP edition was printed.
That's shady buisness Daniel. For someone who wants to have a better reputation, this is not the way to do it. This makes you notorious.
Understand your point. However as stated in the first post on this page. DFace did not have knowledge that this PP edition was printed.
That's shady buisness Daniel. For someone who wants to have a better reputation, this is not the way to do it. This makes you notorious.
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JetSet Graffiti, by scandi on Mar 14, 2010 18:34:04 GMT 1, Aren't they signed by DFace though? I understood it as DFace didn't know about the sale of them for charity, not their existence. Anyway I find it strange that DFace wasn't made aware of their sale by JSG.
Agree with oddkabob btw. seems to be a lot of extra prints made these days (e.g. AP, PP, PubP ++), and very few disclose how many there are in the total.
Aren't they signed by DFace though? I understood it as DFace didn't know about the sale of them for charity, not their existence. Anyway I find it strange that DFace wasn't made aware of their sale by JSG.
Agree with oddkabob btw. seems to be a lot of extra prints made these days (e.g. AP, PP, PubP ++), and very few disclose how many there are in the total.
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JetSet Graffiti, by schlomo on Mar 14, 2010 19:23:54 GMT 1, Well either d* signed them as publishers proofs, or as spares. Either way he would have known they existed.... The question is did he sign them as pp's or were they only incase of damage to the main run? Does the artist know what the ap/pp/whateverp numbers are??
There is a page on the jetset site regarding the donation.
Well either d* signed them as publishers proofs, or as spares. Either way he would have known they existed.... The question is did he sign them as pp's or were they only incase of damage to the main run? Does the artist know what the ap/pp/whateverp numbers are?? There is a page on the jetset site regarding the donation.
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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Mar 15, 2010 4:27:01 GMT 1, Most artists sign up to nearly double the print run to cover any damages, though I do find it dumber than dumb that most of these proofs are EXACTLY the same as the original run.
Its up to the honesty of the gallery or agent that all of the over prints are destroyed and not re-numbered, made into other editions, I doubt D*Face has a clue where they all are and how they will be numbered, knowing Lahoda you'll have a few 8/55 8/55 8/55 in each edition.
Most artists sign up to nearly double the print run to cover any damages, though I do find it dumber than dumb that most of these proofs are EXACTLY the same as the original run.
Its up to the honesty of the gallery or agent that all of the over prints are destroyed and not re-numbered, made into other editions, I doubt D*Face has a clue where they all are and how they will be numbered, knowing Lahoda you'll have a few 8/55 8/55 8/55 in each edition.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Grubster on Mar 15, 2010 5:48:21 GMT 1, that link saysd nothing about how much was dontated! EMEK has published his cashed business checks for 30K+ and posted on his website. This says nuthing
that link saysd nothing about how much was dontated! EMEK has published his cashed business checks for 30K+ and posted on his website. This says nuthing
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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Mar 15, 2010 6:06:06 GMT 1, Its not signed, dated, no registered number nothing....
Its not signed, dated, no registered number nothing....
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JetSet Graffiti, by Photoxtc on Mar 15, 2010 9:46:58 GMT 1, Its not signed, dated, no registered number nothing....
are you saying you got a print that is not signed or numbered or am I missing something here???
Its not signed, dated, no registered number nothing.... are you saying you got a print that is not signed or numbered or am I missing something here???
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JetSet Graffiti, by Guest on Mar 15, 2010 9:52:59 GMT 1, I think he means the letter from the charity.
so to sum it up, we are no closer to knowing any real facts regarding the sale of the prints, or any donation made? and has poppy had a refund?
I think he means the letter from the charity.
so to sum it up, we are no closer to knowing any real facts regarding the sale of the prints, or any donation made? and has poppy had a refund?
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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Mar 15, 2010 9:56:11 GMT 1, If you make a donation to charity they HAVE to recognise the donation with a headed signed, dated letter with the donation amount on it for TAX purposes...
This shout really be followed up, its a proper crime if they didn't get anything.
If you make a donation to charity they HAVE to recognise the donation with a headed signed, dated letter with the donation amount on it for TAX purposes...
This shout really be followed up, its a proper crime if they didn't get anything.
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JetSet Graffiti, by pfffffffffft on Mar 15, 2010 21:16:49 GMT 1, I have been in touch with the charity and I ask that you all remain patient, I am still on top of it.
In the meantime, Poppy should fill you in on where he's at with the detective.
I have been in touch with the charity and I ask that you all remain patient, I am still on top of it.
In the meantime, Poppy should fill you in on where he's at with the detective.
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JetSet Graffiti, by grafik on Mar 15, 2010 22:47:54 GMT 1, great stuff guys..
lets get this thief locked up
great stuff guys..
lets get this thief locked up
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JetSet Graffiti, by Daniel Silk on Mar 15, 2010 23:06:16 GMT 1, great stuff guys.. lets get this thief locked up
Not sure its a good idea posting comments like that until the facts are fully known.
great stuff guys.. lets get this thief locked up Not sure its a good idea posting comments like that until the facts are fully known.
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JetSet Graffiti, by blitsu on Mar 15, 2010 23:26:54 GMT 1, great stuff guys.. lets get this thief locked up Not sure its a good idea posting comments like that until the facts are fully known.
Have you not read this thread, related threads, threads on obeygiant, thread on WK, threads on BMW forums?
Daniel Lahoda is a thief, a charlatan and a conman.
great stuff guys.. lets get this thief locked up Not sure its a good idea posting comments like that until the facts are fully known. ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Have you not read this thread, related threads, threads on obeygiant, thread on WK, threads on BMW forums? Daniel Lahoda is a thief, a charlatan and a conman.
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JetSet Graffiti, by grafik on Mar 16, 2010 1:03:18 GMT 1, great stuff guys.. lets get this thief locked up Not sure its a good idea posting comments like that until the facts are fully known.
come on silk its pretty clear, if he wants to sue me for libel go ahead..
my QC old man is waiting..
great stuff guys.. lets get this thief locked up Not sure its a good idea posting comments like that until the facts are fully known. come on silk its pretty clear, if he wants to sue me for libel go ahead.. my QC old man is waiting..
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JetSet Graffiti, by schlomo on Mar 16, 2010 14:58:07 GMT 1, Kavanagh QC?
![](http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr205/schlomos/KavanaghQCmain.jpg)
Kavanagh QC? ![](http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr205/schlomos/KavanaghQCmain.jpg)
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JetSet Graffiti, by discoduster on Mar 16, 2010 15:08:18 GMT 1, Well either d* signed them as publishers proofs, or as spares. Either way he would have known they existed.... The question is did he sign them as pp's or were they only incase of damage to the main run? Does the artist know what the ap/pp/whateverp numbers are?? There is a page on the jetset site regarding the donation.
I think the artists are generally just plonked in front of a pile of prints and sign them all and from that the gallery number the main edition out of them and keep a stash of them for damaged returns etc. The artist would take x amount of prints for his bum chums and they would be the AP's.
Well either d* signed them as publishers proofs, or as spares. Either way he would have known they existed.... The question is did he sign them as pp's or were they only incase of damage to the main run? Does the artist know what the ap/pp/whateverp numbers are?? There is a page on the jetset site regarding the donation. I think the artists are generally just plonked in front of a pile of prints and sign them all and from that the gallery number the main edition out of them and keep a stash of them for damaged returns etc. The artist would take x amount of prints for his bum chums and they would be the AP's.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Mar 16, 2010 17:55:08 GMT 1, Legal processes are in motion from my end so apologies for not updating but I'm sure a few of you will know that things go quiet for a while before stuff happens and there's a certain amount you have to keep to yourself.
Just as an amusing little addition I thought I'd let you have a look at this message I got from him before all this nonsense started back in 2008 when I'd put a request out for a Gold Flags.. Should get a few people chuckling. The reference checking suggestion is cringe worthy enough but claiming to be a friend of Banksy on top of that......this guy could win big at the bullsh*t oscars.
Gold Flag... ยซ Message sent on Jun 16, 2008, 12:46am ยป
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey there. I've got one. I'm asking $5K GBP for it. It's currently with me in the USA. It's numbered in the 80's.
I'm a legitimate seller. I'm friends with the artist, and have been working as a fine art print publisher for the past 4 years.
Feel free to check my history on this forum... References available upon request.
Let me know if you're interested.
Best,
Daniel Lahoda (702) 813-4006 info@(Removed)
Legal processes are in motion from my end so apologies for not updating but I'm sure a few of you will know that things go quiet for a while before stuff happens and there's a certain amount you have to keep to yourself.
Just as an amusing little addition I thought I'd let you have a look at this message I got from him before all this nonsense started back in 2008 when I'd put a request out for a Gold Flags.. Should get a few people chuckling. The reference checking suggestion is cringe worthy enough but claiming to be a friend of Banksy on top of that......this guy could win big at the bullsh*t oscars.
Gold Flag... ยซ Message sent on Jun 16, 2008, 12:46am ยป
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey there. I've got one. I'm asking $5K GBP for it. It's currently with me in the USA. It's numbered in the 80's.
I'm a legitimate seller. I'm friends with the artist, and have been working as a fine art print publisher for the past 4 years.
Feel free to check my history on this forum... References available upon request.
Let me know if you're interested.
Best,
Daniel Lahoda (702) 813-4006 info@(Removed)
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JetSet Graffiti, by darrenrapley on Mar 16, 2010 18:09:29 GMT 1, Such a shame this all went pear-shaped Poppy. Hope you sort it out soon.
Such a shame this all went pear-shaped Poppy. Hope you sort it out soon.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Karl Read on Mar 16, 2010 19:32:41 GMT 1, He could well be friends with Banksy. I know he is friends with shep and shep is friends with Banksy, so it's viable. Hope you get what your deserved though poppy. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
He could well be friends with Banksy. I know he is friends with shep and shep is friends with Banksy, so it's viable. Hope you get what your deserved though poppy. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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JetSet Graffiti, by discoduster on Mar 17, 2010 8:04:56 GMT 1, Legal processes are in motion from my end so apologies for not updating but I'm sure a few of you will know that things go quiet for a while before stuff happens and there's a certain amount you have to keep to yourself. Just as an amusing little addition I thought I'd let you have a look at this message I got from him before all this nonsense started back in 2008 when I'd put a request out for a Gold Flags.. Should get a few people chuckling. The reference checking suggestion is cringe worthy enough but claiming to be a friend of Banksy on top of that......this guy could win big at the bullsh*t oscars. Gold Flag... ยซ Message sent on Jun 16, 2008, 12:46am ยป
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey there. I've got one. I'm asking $5K GBP for it. It's currently with me in the USA. It's numbered in the 80's.
I'm a legitimate seller. I'm friends with the artist, and have been working as a fine art print publisher for the past 4 years.
Feel free to check my history on this forum... References available upon request.
Let me know if you're interested.
Best,
Daniel Lahoda (702) 813-4006 info@(Removed)
This sucks big time Chris.
I think the most wary of people would still have bought into this deal after that sort of sales pitch, myself included, so it really does show that it could happen to anyone of us.
Really hope you get your dosh back mate.
Legal processes are in motion from my end so apologies for not updating but I'm sure a few of you will know that things go quiet for a while before stuff happens and there's a certain amount you have to keep to yourself. Just as an amusing little addition I thought I'd let you have a look at this message I got from him before all this nonsense started back in 2008 when I'd put a request out for a Gold Flags.. Should get a few people chuckling. The reference checking suggestion is cringe worthy enough but claiming to be a friend of Banksy on top of that......this guy could win big at the bullsh*t oscars. Gold Flag... ยซ Message sent on Jun 16, 2008, 12:46am ยป
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey there. I've got one. I'm asking $5K GBP for it. It's currently with me in the USA. It's numbered in the 80's.
I'm a legitimate seller. I'm friends with the artist, and have been working as a fine art print publisher for the past 4 years.
Feel free to check my history on this forum... References available upon request.
Let me know if you're interested.
Best,
Daniel Lahoda (702) 813-4006 info@(Removed) This sucks big time Chris. I think the most wary of people would still have bought into this deal after that sort of sales pitch, myself included, so it really does show that it could happen to anyone of us. Really hope you get your dosh back mate.
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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Mar 17, 2010 8:38:14 GMT 1, Chris you should give Beejoir a shout, his ArtCunt site looks like its sitting around doing nothing, I'm sure he'd let you put some things up there is you ever need to!
artcunt.com/
Chris you should give Beejoir a shout, his ArtCunt site looks like its sitting around doing nothing, I'm sure he'd let you put some things up there is you ever need to! artcunt.com/
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JetSet Graffiti, by topper007 on Mar 17, 2010 12:02:48 GMT 1, I wish I was shocked by this but not surprised in the slightest. Interesting to go back to the first page and see the flaming given to the poor poster who (rightly) questioned JSG's motives from the off. Any apologies/humble pie been forthcoming?
Also think D*Face should do a bit more than just distancing himself from knowledge of the PPs. It would only be to his credit to do so.
I wish I was shocked by this but not surprised in the slightest. Interesting to go back to the first page and see the flaming given to the poor poster who (rightly) questioned JSG's motives from the off. Any apologies/humble pie been forthcoming?
Also think D*Face should do a bit more than just distancing himself from knowledge of the PPs. It would only be to his credit to do so.
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JetSet Graffiti, by curiousgeorge on Mar 17, 2010 12:20:52 GMT 1,
Totally agree, a cynic might think he has been paid and time to move on?
Totally agree, a cynic might think he has been paid and time to move on?
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Mar 22, 2010 1:17:48 GMT 1, Just had a tip off about a possible suspect ebay member crackandpeel1.
Anyone any ideas who this might be?
Just had a tip off about a possible suspect ebay member crackandpeel1.
Anyone any ideas who this might be?
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JetSet Graffiti, by nigelbgg on Mar 22, 2010 5:27:40 GMT 1, What mr ''COKE RIOT'' Sold out?
Don't doubt it!
What mr ''COKE RIOT'' Sold out?
Don't doubt it!
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JetSet Graffiti, by James Smith 77 on Mar 22, 2010 15:11:07 GMT 1, I try very hard to "believe none on what you hear and only half of what you see." I purchased a "Gold Flag" from Jetset a long time ago and the transaction went perfectly. We spoke a couple times over the phone and the things he told me about Banksy (personal, description, marriage status, kid, etc.) was confirmed by a publisher friend of mine who KNOWS Banksy. I also know for a fact that Jetset was in Bethlehem the exact same time that Banksy was there with Ron English = I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that Jetset has at the least met Banksy a few times. I would take evrything posted here with a grain of salt. Remember there are two sides to every story.
I try very hard to "believe none on what you hear and only half of what you see." I purchased a "Gold Flag" from Jetset a long time ago and the transaction went perfectly. We spoke a couple times over the phone and the things he told me about Banksy (personal, description, marriage status, kid, etc.) was confirmed by a publisher friend of mine who KNOWS Banksy. I also know for a fact that Jetset was in Bethlehem the exact same time that Banksy was there with Ron English = I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that Jetset has at the least met Banksy a few times. I would take evrything posted here with a grain of salt. Remember there are two sides to every story.
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JetSet Graffiti, by ikeamonkey on Mar 22, 2010 15:42:56 GMT 1, He could well be friends with Banksy. I know he is friends with shep and shep is friends with Banksy, so it's viable. Hope you get what your deserved though poppy. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
That assumption is probably not true. Shepard does know Banksy, but he holds Banksy's request for anonymity in very high regards.
I am friends with Shep and while he does know Banksy, I do not know who Banksy is...
IMO: I think Banksy intends to trust his identity to only people whom he thinks can keep their mouth shut.
He could well be friends with Banksy. I know he is friends with shep and shep is friends with Banksy, so it's viable. Hope you get what your deserved though poppy. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) That assumption is probably not true. Shepard does know Banksy, but he holds Banksy's request for anonymity in very high regards. I am friends with Shep and while he does know Banksy, I do not know who Banksy is... IMO: I think Banksy intends to trust his identity to only people whom he thinks can keep their mouth shut.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Karl Read on Mar 22, 2010 16:31:21 GMT 1, He could well be friends with Banksy. I know he is friends with shep and shep is friends with Banksy, so it's viable. Hope you get what your deserved though poppy. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) That assumption is probably not true. Shepard does know Banksy, but he holds Banksy's request for anonymity in very high regards. I am friends with Shep and while he does know Banksy, I do not know who Banksy is... IMO: I think Banksy intends to trust his identity to only people whom he thinks can keep their mouth shut.
I was'nt assuming anything, i just said it is viable. I wasnt suggesting that shepard would tell anyone.
He could well be friends with Banksy. I know he is friends with shep and shep is friends with Banksy, so it's viable. Hope you get what your deserved though poppy. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) That assumption is probably not true. Shepard does know Banksy, but he holds Banksy's request for anonymity in very high regards. I am friends with Shep and while he does know Banksy, I do not know who Banksy is... IMO: I think Banksy intends to trust his identity to only people whom he thinks can keep their mouth shut. I was'nt assuming anything, i just said it is viable. I wasnt suggesting that shepard would tell anyone.
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