[Guest]

what is a Ultrachrome digital image on canvas? i presumed these were painted?

[dynamixx]

Russ uses a combination of digital imaging and hand drawn/painted elements.

Show looks awesome

[sashaz]

I am so tempted!!!!!! they are so stunning. im picking up my hirst tomorrow and now wish i had got these cos they are so great.

[hlarmy]

Wow, a lot has sold. Congrats all, this proves that people are still willing to spend if the quality is there...

[bs]

I must say they looked stunning, though im not too sure about the finish, just a huge digital print really. Like I said, they looked incredible when I walked in but when you got up close, seemed to miss some texture, would have expected them to be at least hand finished. The prints are amazing on an A3 format but being that huge, they missed a little something, but thats only my opinion. Ye, looked like lots had sold so congrats to all

[Karl Read]

I thought, well presumed they would be all painted. Id be very dissapointed if i had bought one online for it to turn up and be a digital print. Amazing artist anyway and love my prints by him. Has he not got any 100 % painted ones?

[Karl Read]

I thought, well presumed they would be all painted. Id be very dissapointed if i had bought one online for it to turn up and be a digital print. Amazing artist anyway and love my prints by him. Has he not got any 100 % painted ones?

[Dellboyy]

No doubt about the quality of the new work they all look great, but for £1k i would expect a bit more than a printout! Is there no hand finishing at all on the new work?

[snelj8]

May 22, 2009 16:23:34 GMT 1 bs said:

I must say they looked stunning, though im not too sure about the finish, just a huge digital print really. Like I said, they looked incredible when I walked in but when you got up close, seemed to miss some texture, would have expected them to be at least hand finished. The prints are amazing on an A3 format but being that huge, they missed a little something, but thats only my opinion. Ye, looked like lots had sold so congrats to all

So is quality not good up close? If you made purchase based on online pics alone, would you think you'd feel disappointed in quality when you actually see in person? Curious how these digital images always come out. Similar to Jason Thielke, almost bought one of his until I found out it was just a digital image.

When I heard about the ultrachrome digital image for these, I thought it may have been just a print out as well, but assumed at that price point it would be super clear and almost staring at a hand painted piece. Someone mentioned before there are hand drawn elements on the pieces itself, is there anything hand painted or drawn from what you guys saw or just the "hand-varnished" element??

but then, i guess that price is what some prints go for themselves. Images still look great themselves though!

[m]

I had thought the images would be digital but with painting and drawing over the top,is this not the case.It's a shame if not,the prices are good for the size but not if they are just printouts.Maybe Signal can explain to us how these are finished.

[Signal Gallery]

May 22, 2009 18:27:26 GMT 1 m said:

I had thought the images would be digital but with painting and drawing over the top,is this not the case.It's a shame if not,the prices are good for the size but not if they are just printouts.Maybe Signal can explain to us how these are finished.

Not sure where the 'hand-finishing' thing comes from. We have never described them as such. Chinese whispering going on here. They are 'hand-varnished'. None of Russ' digital canvases have any hand finishing. He has in the past painted on canvas of course, but these are in a very different style. The freedom and fantasy he achieves digitally is amazing and the quality of the works in the show is first class and they have an extremely crisp finish.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. They're selling like hot cakes.

[jusdeep]

Defininely said hand finishing on either your website (which has maybe now been adjusted accordingly), or straight from Russ himself.
Not that this detracts from the works themselves, they look fantastic by the way

[Signal Gallery]

May 22, 2009 20:32:35 GMT 1 jusdeep said:

Defininely said hand finishing on either your website (which has maybe now been adjusted accordingly), or straight from Russ himself.
Not that this detracts from the works themselves, they look fantastic by the way

Sorry you're wrong there. We spent a long time deciding and agreeing with Russ how they should be described before the preview were sent out.

[jusdeep]

I really don't want to get into an argument over this because it doesn't bother me in the slightest as I was not purchasing work (this time). As I said in my previous post the works and sales of said works speak volumes. Maybe the phrasing was misleading, maybe myself and other members of the forum cannot read English, all I know is that there was deifinitely mention of hand finishing in the original buyers preview list. Let's leave it at that and just enjoy Russ' great work. peace

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[redfred]

I can also remember reading the reference to "hand finishing" but where eludes me at present!

[spiiiiiike]

May 22, 2009 20:54:03 GMT 1 jusdeep said:

I really don't want to get into an argument over this because it doesn't bother me in the slightest as I was not purchasing work (this time). As I said in my previous post the works and sales of said works speak volumes. Maybe the phrasing was misleading, maybe myself and other members of the forum cannot read English, all I know is that there was deifinitely mention of hand finishing in the original buyers preview list. Let's leave it at that and just enjoy Russ' great work. peace

I got a preview link for Russ Mills new work on Mon or Tue and it said 'Hand-varnished Ultrachrome digital images on canvas (unique 1/1)'.

[snelj8]

May 22, 2009 21:14:51 GMT 1 spiiiiiike said:

May 22, 2009 20:54:03 GMT 1 jusdeep said:

I really don't want to get into an argument over this because it doesn't bother me in the slightest as I was not purchasing work (this time). As I said in my previous post the works and sales of said works speak volumes. Maybe the phrasing was misleading, maybe myself and other members of the forum cannot read English, all I know is that there was deifinitely mention of hand finishing in the original buyers preview list. Let's leave it at that and just enjoy Russ' great work. peace

I got a preview link for Russ Mills new work on Mon or Tue and it said 'Hand-varnished Ultrachrome digital images on canvas (unique 1/1)'.

As did I... I think the miscommunication is in the "hand-varnished"... tbh, when I first read that description I thought that was referring to some sort of hand detail on the piece.. perhaps next time just say the works are varnished as I'm not sure how else to you could varnsh other than by hand?

Anyway, has anyone else gone to the show and have actual pics of the exhibition?

[trxtr]

“Most people thought they knew what ‘computer art’ looked like, but of course that is like saying they know what ‘brush art’ looks like. It is daft. What did Leonardo use to paint the Mona Lisa? Well, he used brushes; so if I get a brush I can do that, can’t I? No! A brush, like a computer, is merely a tool.” DAVID HOCKNEY

[Rourke]

May 23, 2009 8:00:28 GMT 1 trxtr said:

“Most people thought they knew what ‘computer art’ looked like, but of course that is like saying they know what ‘brush art’ looks like. It is daft. What did Leonardo use to paint the Mona Lisa? Well, he used brushes; so if I get a brush I can do that, can’t I? No! A brush, like a computer, is merely a tool.” DAVID HOCKNEY

I think your right the computer is a tool, I use a computer for most of my compositions now as probably most Artists do these days.
BUT then I draw them in an original form whether it be Stencil, Paint, or drawing

I think theres a stigma of Digital Art, and rightly so, alot of digital artists use alot of filters and programmes to do there work. Cos of this it is give it a bad name, as they are doing stuff at the touch of a button.

I have been drawing on a computer for twenty years, and think there's nowt wrong with it, as long as…
Use a mouse as a pencil or brush to create an image
Definately don't use any fancy filters.
Conventially hand draw or paint an image and arrange it or enhance it in photoshop.

[m]

In many ways photography was not taken seriously for many years,not in the art world anyway.The idea of just pressing a button rather than slaving away on a canvass,but in reality photography ia very much an art.It's all about how the artist see's the world and can comminicate that to the viewer,showing a different outlook ob life.In time computer generated art will be seen in the same light i think.Russ's work is awesome and looking at his latest work i did think some of it was hand finished.it just looks so surreal and natural not computer generated in any way.

[moleman]

it is nice work but for printout over priced compaired to what is available good luck to russ and signal either way they seem to be selling well

[Guest]

May 21, 2009 12:26:01 GMT 1 dynamixx said:

Russ uses a combination of digital imaging and hand drawn/painted elements.

Show looks awesome

not on these though, digital prints on canvas.

[jfury]

Not really sure on the issue here, Russ Mills stuff has always been digital that is what he does. I think there very nice pieces and they clearly appeal judging by the amount sold. Nice one Russ and nice one Signal.

[Signal Gallery]

May 23, 2009 13:35:34 GMT 1 @ronhill said:

May 21, 2009 12:26:01 GMT 1 dynamixx said:

Russ uses a combination of digital imaging and hand drawn/painted elements.

Show looks awesome

not on these though, digital prints on canvas.

To clarify. Russ hand-draws and paints much of his material, then scans them into his computer. He collages these elements digitally to make the stunning and beautiful results we see. As Jfury says, this is how he has always worked - apart from the relatively few acrylic paintings he has done in the past.

[dotdot]

I like Russ' stuff - never done here anyone any harm - yeah i remember clearly the hype surrounding the small runs he occasionally releases... now here we,perhaps needlessly, have a little bit of fear uncertainty and doubt - I'm surprised to hear that and slightly disappointed.

suppose i shouldn't be - just think less of of the sources .. thats ol.

FUD = bad
HYPE = bad

let the work speak for itself - not anyone else ! pretty simple really
KISS not SNAFU

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[snelj8]

those who think they are overpriced, arent there prints out there that go for as much if not more? what makes those pieces more worth it if judging pieces as just being printouts?

we should let the pictures speak for themselves, anyone take pics at the show?

[Standard]

I don't understand the fuss?

Would it be more artistic if he cut out a cardboard stencil and rattle canned his work? Is there such a skill difference between the results? The work that Russ produces is fresh, very sharp, distinctive and is simply using the tools of the times, rather nicely I may add.

Are we not at risk of falling foul of the same stuff that the blinkered critics of Banksy harp on about? Do we question why Banksy uses a rattle can and a cardboard cut out over how Matisse skillfully used paint on the tip of a brush? If the end results are pleasant and approving to the eye, why the hell question how the artist got to the result?

If you don't like it don't buy it, if you do then do......! Some people go crazy over a simple but effective stencil that is reproduced in print but then pull faces at an artist who uses a Mac, biro ink, paint, digital manipulation and then prints the result on an 1 of 1 canvas!!!!!! Not to mention that he throws out a very small run of his prints for £25!!

If Banksy started releasing prints that where completely of digital origin you lot would be tripping over each other.

step out of the box.

[harryh74]

The work was stunning in the flesh, half of it was sold by the time I arrived.
Well worth a visit if you are down that way

[harryh74]

and not forgetting the Dale Grimshaw on the outside of the Gallery