[xhitsthespot]

Sadly my previous thread asking for anyone who knows Graham Dykes aka GD303uk drew a blank.

Briefly I sent the guy £250 by bank transfer on the 11th of November 2009 for a Blek le Rat print. There were delays initially as he couldn't find the COA and then he disappeard for a month. He didn't respond to phone calls or PM's.

He resurfaced on the 11th of January and said he would be sending a refund, that refund hasn't materialised and once again he is not responding to phone calls or picking up private messages despite the fact he is logging in to the forum.

I'm now at the stage where I believe he has no intention of refunding my money and it looks increasingly as though the only way forward is to get the authoritys involved.

If money is the issue I've told him I'm still happy to take the print without the COA, all he has to do is get in touch to sort this mess out.

Any help or advice would be much appreciated.

[mookie]

File a small claim against him or you can just google his name if you don't have his address and collect the money + travel expenses in person.

www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/claims/index.htm

[grantb]

thats what i was going to do in my case but i got my money back

goodluck.

[afroken]

www.facebook.com/album.php?page=7&aid=-3&id=684964327#!/photo.php?pid=2939511&id=684964327

[mookie]

Feb 10, 2010 12:19:53 GMT 1 afroken said:

www.facebook.com/album.php?page=7&aid=-3&id=684964327#!/photo.php?pid=2939511&id=684964327

I would say that's him

Come on Graham... do the right thing.

[xhitsthespot]

Just joined facebook and clicked the link, that's the fella for sure. Many thanks for that.

Will try and contact him that way and see what happens.

edit: He's around as he just loaded an image up onto his facebook page!!

[GD303uk]

this trade hasn't gone wrong it just taken time , i work away from home and am never there, i am hard to get hold of some time, sorry.
i did offer to send the print in november but the buyer asked for prov after i said the print doesnt come with the frame, which was never mentioned in the sale, i said i would try and have not recieved it or a reply.
all i am guilty of is beeing tardy,
i have never ripped anybody of and am not all that arsed what any of you think,
the print will be sent asap send me your addy .
later.
G

[xhitsthespot]

Shame it had to come to this to get a response.

Thanks to all who sent me PM's and for the helpful replies in the thread. Will let you know the outcome

[GD303uk]

11 Dec'
Hi nick,
no news yet i will (name removed) see if he can at least confirm numbers and name etc maybe get it registered in your name,
i feel bad me having the print here for so long ,so was thinking at least i can send the print to you and forward you the coa details later, what do you think?

speak soon
G

11 dec
Alright G

I'm thinking I can buy another Blek 'Man Who Walks' complete with a Coa for £250 and it's looking like the COA for yours isn't going to materialise. Puts me in a tricky spot

14 dec
Hi Nick,

I am sure the COA will turn up , it just a atter of time, i know it has taken a bit long, (name removed) has not been on here fore a few weeks to return my latest pm's.
but i undertsand your position and can return your money to you, no hard feelings ,

speak soon

G
29 dec

Alright G

Now that silly season is out the way can you send the print on

cheers

Nick
11 Jan
Hi mate
sorry about the delay in getting back to you have had a mad but great few weeks, winter sports and familly, was stuck up in scotland for a week, was fun though., and only got back home last weekend ,
i havent heard about the COa so will arrange for you to have your money back,
very sorry about the messing about i thought it would be easier than it has been,
how would you like the money? send into your bank ?

i wil need a few days as i wont be paid until end of month but promise to make good, please dont worry.

All the best for the new year.

take care
G

During this time buyer has moved, not got his new address,
does this and the fact he has my phone number, bank account details etc, look like I am a crook?

[xhitsthespot]

I won't resort to publishing private PM's on a public forum but the fact is you've had my 'new' address since I sent it to you via PM on the 18th of November.

Yes I have your telephone number but it's been of no use as you haven't responded to any of the five messages I've left with you. Nor have you responded to any PM since the 11th of January despite logging in the forum on several occasions.

I gave you every opportunity to resolve this but it took a thread via the forum to get you to jump. If you wish to justify your actions in public then thats your call, I'm not out to start an argument all I wanted was my money back or the print.

[xhitsthespot]

A refund has now been promised via cheque..........

[GD303uk]

i think thats best after the way it has gone,
a refund is what i have promissed a refund is what you will get.

[Photoxtc]

I have to chime in here, 'xhitsthespot' has been in contact with me over this issue and I've tried to reassure him that GD will come through in the end and I have no doubt he will...

I have dealt with GD many times in the past and have never had an issue... He and I have bought, sold and traded art with one another and in the end it has always worked out between us... An example would be this, he has sent me original pieces of art worth many thousands of dollars with no money up front and I have done the same with him, not something I would do with just anyone on here...

In fact we have a deal going right now that I'm not in the least bit worried about as I have total faith in him as a friend and a trustworthy person to deal with...

[xhitsthespot]

If it wasn't for Mike this would have escalated a long time ago, GD303uk used him as a reference so I contacted him and initially his words were reassuring. Another whole month of GD303uk ignoring PM's and phone messages was the last straw hence this thread.

At the end of the day it looks as though I'll now get my money back but it should never ever have come to this and it could have been so easily avoided. Just one returned PM or phone call would have done the trick

[grafik]

sometimes some members, (including myself) can be tardy sometimes, due to personal circumstances, holidays, work family etc but needs to be a bit of patience sometimes.

I am sorting out COA for a print i sold and said i would get the PC COA, has taken 6 weeks or so to get myself organized, and the death of my grandpa in jan didnt help but the other guy has been brilliant and very patient, all sorted with dora just waiting till i have a bit of time to go and pay for them and pick them up.

patience is a virtue.

[leumasdarnley]

Patience.... waiting since Nov with someones money isn't patience its bullsh*t period. grafik if this person has paid you for the print I will hold my complete reply but 6 weeks?

[sand]

Feb 10, 2010 21:34:06 GMT 1 grafik said:

patience is a virtue.

Perhaps a fortnight or so as long as the buyer is kept in touch with whats going on, and as long as they are okay with the delay.

If someone has the time to post something for sale, negotiate a price and take payment - they should have the time to ship the piece or at the very least reply to the buyers phone calls / emails.

There's no excuse for a deal from November to still be dragging.

Man up and offer a refund.

You're only as good as your last sale - no matter what other members of the forum say about a person.

Buyer beware when dealing with member GD303uk from now on.

[xhitsthespot]

Feb 10, 2010 21:34:06 GMT 1 grafik said:

sometimes some members, (including myself) can be tardy sometimes, due to personal circumstances, holidays, work family etc but needs to be a bit of patience sometimes.

I am sorting out COA for a print i sold and said i would get the PC COA, has taken 6 weeks or so to get myself organized, and the death of my grandpa in jan didnt help but the other guy has been brilliant and very patient, all sorted with dora just waiting till i have a bit of time to go and pay for them and pick them up.

patience is a virtue.

Tardy isn't a word I'd use to describe this whole sorry episode. I'd go for inconsiderate and selfish

I have shown more patience than could have been reasonably expected, what really made me flip was the fact that the guy just completely ignored my attempts to contact him to resolve this. When I say ignored I mean just that, he logged in to the forum regularly and totally ignored messages I sent him, I left messages on his telephone he also ignored those.

What finally made him appear was this thread which he was on to within 3 hours of it being posted, coincidence? I don't think so

[etched]

GD303uk WHA? sorry son you are not good in your dealings - get a grip ......

[origo]

Dealing with other peoples money, shouldn´t be taken lightly.

[grafik]

Feb 10, 2010 22:29:46 GMT 1 leumasdarnley said:

Patience.... waiting since Nov with someones money isn't patience its bullsh*t period. grafik if this person has paid you for the print I will hold my complete reply but 6 weeks?

sold print, delivered it to them. sold with prov but no COA.

then was getting coa for my others so said i would get it for the sold print too.

not holding anyones money.

[chive]

i am still waiting on a blek print from his as well, it was supposed to be shipped last november. ihave not seen any sign of it. got an email that said he had shipped it in early december and nothing yet.

[xhitsthespot]

Two months in transit doesn't sound good at all does it

[chive]

actually i must correct myself, i received an email a few weeks ago saying it had come back to the uk and would i like it reposted or refunded.

that said, airmail only takes 5-7 days from the uk to canada.

[GD303uk]

The print was sent to you in November i sent you all the post details for you to track and trace it,
I watched it myself and have all the details here, tracking number etc,
it was collected as it needed to be signed for and was returned in December, and have sent you a pm telling you how surprised I was to see it back and asked you to pay for the post.
as i had paid for it to be sent the first time.
I hope you have told people this before you blame me for trying to con you.
You have my email.
Cheers
G

[GD303uk]

here are some of the pm i have sent chive i have only heard from him today on this thread
as i have said before i am not a con man and would never rip anybody of.
what more can i do. he read the pms and never responded. i was waitimng for his reply.

11th jan
hi Mate,

i was surprised to see the print arrive back here the other day, returned to sender as it wasn't collected,
did you receive my email with tracking number?
What would you like me to do?
I can resend it or refund your money it is up to you,

no worries

take care

G

18th jan

Hi Todd,

i have never had anything lost myself and very rarely has anything been returned to sender,
here is a copy of the post office page;

A delivery was attempted for your item with reference LY225081972GB in CANADA before 13:16 on 20/12/09.

A card may have been left, depending on the country's postal service.

If undelivered, it will be returned to the UK

I was following it on line myself and did notice it hadn't been signed for but guess as you say that a card was left and that you would have picked it up
never mind all is well , it was returned safe and is ready to be resent.
can you cover the cost for the resending?
i hate to ask only it cost me to post last time and if i do it again it would add up to a sum i hadn't reckoned on.
let me know your thoughts


Please Email Me [e-mail] if you need to get hold of me fast,

take care
G

[leumasdarnley]

Feb 11, 2010 15:44:55 GMT 1 grafik said:

Feb 10, 2010 22:29:46 GMT 1 leumasdarnley said:

Patience.... waiting since Nov with someones money isn't patience its bullsh*t period. grafik if this person has paid you for the print I will hold my complete reply but 6 weeks?

sold print, delivered it to them. sold with prov but no COA.

then was getting coa for my others so said i would get it for the sold print too.

not holding anyones money.

That is different I could wait for the COA as long as I had the print.

[GD303uk]

i offerd to send the print if your read the pms
nick tell the truth on this did i not offer to send the print and send you the COA when i revieved it?
also

todd chive


here is a copy of my email sent on 2nd dec i recived payment a few days before this.

Hi Todd


the print is on its way and should be with you in 3 days ,
i have sent it by royal mail airsure.
you can track it with this number; LY2250819726GB

let me know as soon as it arrives if you don't mind,


kind regards
Graham


i feel i have to defend myself and post pms and email mainly my own.

tell the truth what have i done wrong?
i am a week late repling to Nick xhits the spot and have only heard from chive tonight.

you all have my emails i am out of here.

[mookie]

I think you've defended yourself pretty well. If you offered to send the print w/o coa whilst that is being sorted then that's fair, although I understand how a buyer panics when communications go dead for a while. When things are not collected from the post office they can hold them for a week or more so it would take a while to do a round trip and if the buyer doesn't collect when they have the tracking number it's not really down to the seller to cover postage a second time.

[xhitsthespot]

To be fair to Graham, he's done nothing wrong at all with regard to Chives print. He did send the print and it wasn't collected, it should be up to Chive to pay again for postage. Don't see what more Graham could have done in that case.

Seems Chive wasn't telling the whole story