[wiz]

Good, another fun auction from these Muppets (imo), isnt "Vermin Authentication" worthless? i mean it says "OXO" on some buses but they dont sell em!.

[baileymontana]

I remember seeing that Wrong War / Happy Chopper on Ebay and asked the seller about it, their reply was very flaky. After the auction finished they sent a mail to me asking if I want buy it as the "winner" has pulled out. I think another two went up again later and I'm sure they sold for a few hundred pounds. If these are the same ones to now try and sell it for £7000-£9000 in my mind seems out of order.

[buffin]

Surprised Lyon & Turnbull are up to this again after the beating they took last time. Thought auction houses cared about their reputation!

[buffin]

Thats possible als. Can't think of any other reason why Lyon & Turnbull would knowlingly dent their reputation to this extent.

[aj]

Pretty sure the pap rat with all the stickers is the real deal!

It was on the embankment for couple of years. Was gutted when that went, they just lifted the whole box leaving a mass of exposed wires.

They should be done for handling stolen property of the council.

[aj]

Just noticed it says all that under the item

Salvaged my arse!

[Guest]

I know the paparazzi rat was stolen, but without a certificate from PC there is no provenance, and for all that anyone knows the rat could be a fake.

[dynamixx]

Absolute joke, the wrong war placard is laughably bad, and estimate is pretty much double what the Pax Britannica boxset is selling for. Genuine limited Wrong War along with a load of other art, versus bad copy for double the price? Hmmm tough one

As for the street pieces, Lyon & Turnbull should be ashamed of themselves

[manty]

I think the authenication scam what ever you want to call it, is the same as me selling an officially signed Dave gilmour or Jimmy Hendrix guitar with official COA from me certifying it as genuine. If you believe me thats its geniune then fine, but when you come to resell, you may have problems ;-)

Ps if you would like a guitar signed by either of the above for the low cost of £5,000 please pm :-)

[buffin]

Apr 22, 2009 13:28:20 GMT 1 Manty said:

I think the authenication scam what ever you want to call it, is the same as me selling an officially signed Dave gilmour or Jimmy Hendrix guitar with official COA from me certifying it as genuine. If you believe me thats its geniune then fine, but when you come to resell, you may have problems ;-)

Ps if you would like a guitar signed by either of the above for the low cost of £5,000 please pm :-)

But could there be other effects as well, how would it work if you just wanted to keep the piece but insure it? How would the insurance company view it in the event of a claim?

[eddiedangerous]

i think the insurance company would go by the receipt of payment to the auction house as its valuation.

manty very interested in the signed hendrix guitar can we work out a price??
and i got your word they're real... u promise!!?

[Deleted]

Venom's operational costs must be very low, because I can't see anyone actually buying a piece they've authenticated

[manty]

Apr 22, 2009 14:28:28 GMT 1 eddiedangerous said:

i think the insurance company would go by the receipt of payment to the auction house as its valuation.

manty very interested in the signed hendrix guitar can we work out a price??
and i got your word they're real... u promise!!?

Sure is, I had a pic of him signing it with my Sharpie Marker, but i deleted it from my pc by accident overwise I would want £10k for it

[eddiedangerous]

Apr 22, 2009 15:19:45 GMT 1 Manty said:

Apr 22, 2009 14:28:28 GMT 1 eddiedangerous said:

i think the insurance company would go by the receipt of payment to the auction house as its valuation.

manty very interested in the signed hendrix guitar can we work out a price??
and i got your word they're real... u promise!!?

Sure is, I had a pic of him signing it with my Sharpie Marker, but i deleted it from my pc by accident overwise I would want £10k for it

oh thats great, and I got a friend who is really jealous and prepared to pay more than me if you are able to find another, i dont suppose you got him to sign more than one??

i hate losing photos on the pc, but heck i guess it easily done...

[Urban Cowboy]

my mate collects hendrix and someone offered him a signed hendrix album that he swore blind he had got personally signed by Hendrix. My mate pointed out to him that the album was released 2 years after Jimi had died and the feller still had the cheek to say it was genuine.

[Sacked...]

Whats prices did they reach though als,did they even get a bid ?

[wiz]

Did this sale flop?.

edit. Just looked at the results

www.lyonandturnbull.com/asp/searchresults.asp?pg=1&ps=25&st=D&sale_no=241++++

[Bram]

If you are ever searching for a definition of the phrase "a bad day at the office" then read

Lyon and Turnbull 24/4/09

[cashman]

Apr 24, 2009 22:46:40 GMT 1 Bram said:

If you are ever searching for a definition of the phrase "a bad day at the office" then read

Lyon and Turnbull 24/4/09

Couldnt have gone any better

[senna]

will they ever learn

[Bram]

Apr 24, 2009 22:57:16 GMT 1 senna said:

will they ever learn [/quote

they will........but then they will say f*ck it, shall we have another go!

[buffin]

Another Scottish institution gone to the dogs along with RBS & HBOS.

[Bram]

Apr 24, 2009 23:00:30 GMT 1 buffin said:

Another Scottish institution gone to the dogs along with RBS & HBOS.

Even fried mars bars are getting an hard(ening of the arteries) time

[wiz]

Apr 24, 2009 23:00:30 GMT 1 buffin said:

Another Scottish institution gone to the dogs along with RBS & HBOS.

On the plus side the Krankies are doing fandabbydosie.

[graeme501]

Apr 24, 2009 23:00:30 GMT 1 buffin said:

Another Scottish institution gone to the dogs along with RBS & HBOS.

why is the fact that is it scottish has anything to do with it?

[cashman]

Apr 25, 2009 0:47:43 GMT 1 @graeme501 said:

Apr 24, 2009 23:00:30 GMT 1 buffin said:

Another Scottish institution gone to the dogs along with RBS & HBOS.

why is the fact that is it scottish has anything to do with it?

Put down the Buckie and step away from the computer

[Daniel Silk]

news.scotsman.com/scotland/Banksy-print-set-to-fetch.6241768.jp

"Banksy print set to fetch £5k at sale
EDINBURGH's first auction of a work by street artist Banksy could fetch more than £5,000 next week.
The 2006 print, one of 33 from Banksy's LA Edition, was passed to auctioneers Lyon & Turnbull by a friend of the artist.
With a cheeky nod to the Fringe, the screen-print is named Festival and shows punters lining up to buy "Destroy capitalism" T-shirts for $30.
Auction house specialist Ben Hanly said the work was different to the type the firm usually handles.
"It is classic Banksy at his best, and this print is quite rare," he said. "It's meant to be a fun thing and he is a sought-after artist.
"We have sold 15 or 20 works by him in London, but never in Edinburgh. We think there's a national interest in what he's doing."
The print is expected to fetch between £3,000 and £5,000 but similar prints in galleries have sold for more than £7,000.
The largest sum ever paid for a Banksy piece was £102,000, for anti-war print Bombing Middle England in 2007.
The sale will take place at 11am on 28 April, at the Lyon & Turnbull saleroom in Broughton Place."

[walshy]

5k I think not, but I gueess they think it will draw bidders. Personally I think the LA prints are poor and I guess thats why they never made it over here

[tomega]

I think will exceed 5K for 3 following reasons:

Even the unsigned Modern Multiple (LA) prints are hard to come by (I know one was available here recently) as only 100 of an intended 500 run were made available. For Festival prints only a very few (which incl artists proofs) were signed.

This one is a low edition of 33 (on end paper) gifted to the owner by Banksy but also has Pest Control authentication.

As many people know there are differences in the Festival prints this one having the pushchair shown in full - unlike the part-pushchair seen on the Modern Multiple unsigned.

As already mentioned a Trolley print (ed 750) sold recently at auction which cost its buyer about 4 grand. Therefore can assume this person (like lots of other people) prefers not to shop on here (likely doesn't even know about banksyforum) or ebay. Preferring to pay a premium at auction, and galleries, as they assume only way of getting solid provenance. Only needs couple of people like buyer of Trolley to be after the Festival to take it way over 5k.

Just my thoughts on the matter, be interesting to see what happens.

[Deleted]

A shame less plug, my Festival is still available if anyone is after one...

urbanartassociation.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ebaychat&thread=52811&page=1#652333

Apr 25, 2010 20:55:04 GMT 1 tomega said:

I think will exceed 5K for 3 following reasons:

Even the unsigned Modern Multiple (LA) prints are hard to come by (I know one was available here recently) as only 100 of an intended 500 run were made available. For Festival prints only a very few (which incl artists proofs) were signed.

This one is a low edition of 33 (on end paper) gifted to the owner by Banksy but also has Pest Control authentication.

As many people know there are differences in the Festival prints this one having the pushchair shown in full - unlike the part-pushchair seen on the Modern Multiple unsigned.

As already mentioned a Trolley print (ed 750) sold recently at auction which cost its buyer about 4 grand. Therefore can assume this person (like lots of other people) prefers not to shop on here (likely doesn't even know about banksyforum) or ebay. Preferring to pay a premium at auction, and galleries, as they assume only way of getting solid provenance. Only needs couple of people like buyer of Trolley to be after the Festival to take it way over 5k.

Just my thoughts on the matter, be interesting to see what happens.