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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by bradpitt on Oct 18, 2008 18:31:16 GMT 1, Get a room you two, I think Graeme is right, either that or too many artists mums turning up to auction. But who buys at inflated prices after freak auction results? idiots.
Get a room you two, I think Graeme is right, either that or too many artists mums turning up to auction. But who buys at inflated prices after freak auction results? idiots.
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by alsbabar on Oct 18, 2008 18:34:30 GMT 1, Bradpitt - he isnt right - he doesnt have any information to support his comments, and graeme is suggesting it - its like he has a serious issue with Laz
Also i do not need to defend Laz, he can take care of himself
See you at SG08 graeme - NOT
Bradpitt - he isnt right - he doesnt have any information to support his comments, and graeme is suggesting it - its like he has a serious issue with Laz
Also i do not need to defend Laz, he can take care of himself
See you at SG08 graeme - NOT
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by graeme501 on Oct 18, 2008 18:44:09 GMT 1, i dont have any information to support the queen vic comments, thats why i said i wouldnt be surprised and it was my opinion, but he did buy the BME and the tesco flag, thats why it was on sale at the laz show - that is fact
i dont have any information to support the queen vic comments, thats why i said i wouldnt be surprised and it was my opinion, but he did buy the BME and the tesco flag, thats why it was on sale at the laz show - that is fact
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by bradpitt on Oct 18, 2008 18:50:12 GMT 1, Nothing against Laz, but it is a bit transparent, but who cares as it seems to be the way to get some recognition in the art world for some strange reason. I couldn't care less about how much something sells for, if it's poo it's poo. Not a lot of people think like this though as they are too absorbed with money. Shame. Damn, I sound like a hippy - I like money, but with art it has to be love.
Nothing against Laz, but it is a bit transparent, but who cares as it seems to be the way to get some recognition in the art world for some strange reason. I couldn't care less about how much something sells for, if it's poo it's poo. Not a lot of people think like this though as they are too absorbed with money. Shame. Damn, I sound like a hippy - I like money, but with art it has to be love.
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by graeme501 on Oct 18, 2008 18:52:37 GMT 1, as for not seeing u at the ghetto this year, i believe its my choice whether i go or not
however if the ghetto this year is some kind of exclusive event, where only the rich and the special r invited, then no i wont see u there, as i wouldnt b invited, nor would i want to attend a ghetto that was set up in such a way
as for not seeing u at the ghetto this year, i believe its my choice whether i go or not
however if the ghetto this year is some kind of exclusive event, where only the rich and the special r invited, then no i wont see u there, as i wouldnt b invited, nor would i want to attend a ghetto that was set up in such a way
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by dogant on Oct 18, 2008 19:17:54 GMT 1, Graeme501,
As it was my post about the Laz show that got you thinking – let me give you my views on your comments.
Think of it this way - You own some Banksy prints – if you had to power to develop the market to insure your prints would increase I am sure you would do so? Laz has a vested interest in Banksy and like any businessperson – will do what the feels is beneficial to his own stock and his artists (legally!).
None of us here at high enough up the ladder to know what goes on within the art world – but we all must know that everything in our world is altered and manipulated to benefit someone and everything has a perceived value above someone else’s perceived worth. Saying that, stating the Laz is buying a selling his own stock is very unfair and also potentially slanderous – unless you can prove it.
Anyone wishing to join the Banksy club must now be influenced in not only the art, but also the financial gains this can bring. May I suggest that if you don’t like the ride – you should get of the bus (but I can assure you any other bus will have the same problems!)
It’s the way of the world – we protect our own. I am sure you are intelligent enough to understand this and I would suggest you attempt to look at the positives of increased prices/media coverage etc, etc – unless you want your favourite artists to go down the pan and pick up OG’s for £40 a pop.
And regarding the Bomb Middle England - the increase of £100k is IMO fair and only a stated price – I guess there would be flex on this price and after all – Laz has had £120,000+ tied up in BME for some time now. Add this to his overheads – why not try to get £200k for it (in fact, is this not what happen with most BIN auctions on ebay?) But after seeing the total cost to put on a Laz party and the staffing costs/venue – its only fair the man makes a living.
PS – I think it was about 30 OG’s – so I will amend my post!
Bloody hell – that was another long one, sorry!
Finally, re SG08 - of course everyone is welcome - but be honest, they will be an elite club - there is an elite club with everything in life. Again, please smell the coffee.
Graeme501,
As it was my post about the Laz show that got you thinking – let me give you my views on your comments.
Think of it this way - You own some Banksy prints – if you had to power to develop the market to insure your prints would increase I am sure you would do so? Laz has a vested interest in Banksy and like any businessperson – will do what the feels is beneficial to his own stock and his artists (legally!).
None of us here at high enough up the ladder to know what goes on within the art world – but we all must know that everything in our world is altered and manipulated to benefit someone and everything has a perceived value above someone else’s perceived worth. Saying that, stating the Laz is buying a selling his own stock is very unfair and also potentially slanderous – unless you can prove it.
Anyone wishing to join the Banksy club must now be influenced in not only the art, but also the financial gains this can bring. May I suggest that if you don’t like the ride – you should get of the bus (but I can assure you any other bus will have the same problems!)
It’s the way of the world – we protect our own. I am sure you are intelligent enough to understand this and I would suggest you attempt to look at the positives of increased prices/media coverage etc, etc – unless you want your favourite artists to go down the pan and pick up OG’s for £40 a pop.
And regarding the Bomb Middle England - the increase of £100k is IMO fair and only a stated price – I guess there would be flex on this price and after all – Laz has had £120,000+ tied up in BME for some time now. Add this to his overheads – why not try to get £200k for it (in fact, is this not what happen with most BIN auctions on ebay?) But after seeing the total cost to put on a Laz party and the staffing costs/venue – its only fair the man makes a living.
PS – I think it was about 30 OG’s – so I will amend my post!
Bloody hell – that was another long one, sorry!
Finally, re SG08 - of course everyone is welcome - but be honest, they will be an elite club - there is an elite club with everything in life. Again, please smell the coffee.
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by graeme501 on Oct 18, 2008 19:28:49 GMT 1, i agree with alot of what u r saying, and do have a very basic understanding of how the art world works, and how laz has a vested interest, and wants to keep up the price of banksy's work, but what happens when its only he that is willing to pay these high prices for the work at auction?
i dont think an 100k price increase is fair, if LAZ was the highest bidder, why would some1 want to pay double a few months later?
as for the slanderous comments, my instinct tells me that i wouldnt be surprised that he bought the queen vic, but as i have said, there is no fact behind me thinking this, just my thoughts, and will probably be proved incorrect sometime soon
i agree with alot of what u r saying, and do have a very basic understanding of how the art world works, and how laz has a vested interest, and wants to keep up the price of banksy's work, but what happens when its only he that is willing to pay these high prices for the work at auction? i dont think an 100k price increase is fair, if LAZ was the highest bidder, why would some1 want to pay double a few months later? as for the slanderous comments, my instinct tells me that i wouldnt be surprised that he bought the queen vic, but as i have said, there is no fact behind me thinking this, just my thoughts, and will probably be proved incorrect sometime soon
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by lovingit on Oct 18, 2008 19:36:02 GMT 1, just maybe the buyer of the banksy got a bargain basic supply and demand, if you want the painting that is the price. if you dont want to pay the price then go without the painting. where else would you buy one?
just maybe the buyer of the banksy got a bargain basic supply and demand, if you want the painting that is the price. if you dont want to pay the price then go without the painting. where else would you buy one?
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by dogant on Oct 18, 2008 19:39:39 GMT 1, 1. He stock piles Banksy work and moves it on when the time is right (as all cash rich businesses would)
2. Why not, it's an asking price. Add that to the 120k investment he already has in it - as well as the other costs his business takes to run. Somewill will buy it for £200k - or he will sell for less and know one will know (no damage to market)
3. Who knows - not I!
And finally, I don't own a Banksy yet - so in a ideal world, Laz will f**k up big time - I can then buy cheap - Laz will get back on the ball - I will make some money!
i agree with alot of what u r saying, and do have a very basic understanding of how the art world works, and how laz has a vested interest, and wants to keep up the price of banksy's work, but what happens when its only he that is willing to pay these high prices for the work at auction? i dont think an 100k price increase is fair, if LAZ was the highest bidder, why would some1 want to pay double a few months later? as for the slanderous comments, my instinct tells me that i wouldnt be surprised that he bought the queen vic, but as i have said, there is no fact behind me thinking this, just my thoughts, and will probably be proved incorrect sometime soon
1. He stock piles Banksy work and moves it on when the time is right (as all cash rich businesses would) 2. Why not, it's an asking price. Add that to the 120k investment he already has in it - as well as the other costs his business takes to run. Somewill will buy it for £200k - or he will sell for less and know one will know (no damage to market) 3. Who knows - not I! And finally, I don't own a Banksy yet - so in a ideal world, Laz will f**k up big time - I can then buy cheap - Laz will get back on the ball - I will make some money! i agree with alot of what u r saying, and do have a very basic understanding of how the art world works, and how laz has a vested interest, and wants to keep up the price of banksy's work, but what happens when its only he that is willing to pay these high prices for the work at auction? i dont think an 100k price increase is fair, if LAZ was the highest bidder, why would some1 want to pay double a few months later? as for the slanderous comments, my instinct tells me that i wouldnt be surprised that he bought the queen vic, but as i have said, there is no fact behind me thinking this, just my thoughts, and will probably be proved incorrect sometime soon
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by afroken on Nov 6, 2008 0:26:33 GMT 1, Skanky I think you are right that this is only the beginning. Many people think that urban art is a fad. I believe it signifies something much bigger: the handover of power (finally) from baby boomers to generation x-ers. There are people on this board and in the wider community of urban art lovers that will increasingly fill positions of power and importance in our society and their perspective on the world will replace attitudes of today to become the status quo. We are witnessing a significant cultural shift in all areas of the arts, technology and media as those retched baby boomers finally run out of steam and have no choice other than to make room for a new generation (even though that generation is already in its mid to late 30's). Our tastes will become the dominant force in this world and it's only a matter of time before they permeate everything. Our artists will be considered pioneers and people on boards like these will be wondering when their day glow video art installations will get a look in. That's what I think anyway!
Can I just resurrect this thread to say that, since I wrote this post, we have witnessed the end of baby boomer economics and today we witnessed the end of baby boomer politics. Culture and art WILL follow.
Skanky I think you are right that this is only the beginning. Many people think that urban art is a fad. I believe it signifies something much bigger: the handover of power (finally) from baby boomers to generation x-ers. There are people on this board and in the wider community of urban art lovers that will increasingly fill positions of power and importance in our society and their perspective on the world will replace attitudes of today to become the status quo. We are witnessing a significant cultural shift in all areas of the arts, technology and media as those retched baby boomers finally run out of steam and have no choice other than to make room for a new generation (even though that generation is already in its mid to late 30's). Our tastes will become the dominant force in this world and it's only a matter of time before they permeate everything. Our artists will be considered pioneers and people on boards like these will be wondering when their day glow video art installations will get a look in. That's what I think anyway! Can I just resurrect this thread to say that, since I wrote this post, we have witnessed the end of baby boomer economics and today we witnessed the end of baby boomer politics. Culture and art WILL follow.
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Great result for Banksy results in major auction.., by pfffffffffft on Nov 24, 2008 16:06:44 GMT 1, i dont have any information to support the queen vic comments, thats why i said i wouldnt be surprised and it was my opinion, but he did buy the BME and the tesco flag, thats why it was on sale at the laz show - that is fact
Those pieces were bought to be used for the lazarides extravaganza raffle as prizes, as were the failes. The event then turned into a show with works to be sold.
i dont have any information to support the queen vic comments, thats why i said i wouldnt be surprised and it was my opinion, but he did buy the BME and the tesco flag, thats why it was on sale at the laz show - that is fact Those pieces were bought to be used for the lazarides extravaganza raffle as prizes, as were the failes. The event then turned into a show with works to be sold.
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