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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by Zippy on May 22, 2021 14:38:02 GMT 1, What have you based your prices on? I do not follow vinyl Records / LP prices but there are some on the artsy tate ward auction around £100/150. Do you believe these are rarer than the auction pieces? Do you have links?
Hopefully this works!!
artsy.net/artwork/banksy-badmeaninggood-scratch-perverts-3
What have you based your prices on? I do not follow vinyl Records / LP prices but there are some on the artsy tate ward auction around £100/150. Do you believe these are rarer than the auction pieces? Do you have links? Hopefully this works!! artsy.net/artwork/banksy-badmeaninggood-scratch-perverts-3 |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by GB on May 22, 2021 14:39:28 GMT 1, Prices are based on a rough estimate of sold items on ebay (caveat various levels of damage), kind member help and then believe that someone on the forum would question the price regardless.
Prices are based on a rough estimate of sold items on ebay (caveat various levels of damage), kind member help and then believe that someone on the forum would question the price regardless.
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by dreadware on May 22, 2021 14:51:07 GMT 1, Thanks for the links! Will be interesting to see the results.
Thanks for the links! Will be interesting to see the results.
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by dreadware on May 22, 2021 15:09:25 GMT 1, There is a set now on Ebay.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294177204077
just for reference of the price.
I think the prices are also fair.
Good luck with the sale!
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by frax on May 23, 2021 22:06:59 GMT 1,
Price for the set is already at £5300 and still nearly 2 days to go... So the asked £5000 seem to be really fair!
Price for the set is already at £5300 and still nearly 2 days to go... So the asked £5000 seem to be really fair! |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by peas on May 23, 2021 22:48:22 GMT 1, Price for the set is already at £5300 and still nearly 2 days to go... So the asked £5000 seem to be really fair!
£5,000 for images reproduced from internet sourced jpegs without any involvement or approval from the artist is INSANE.
Price for the set is already at £5300 and still nearly 2 days to go... So the asked £5000 seem to be really fair!
£5,000 for images reproduced from internet sourced jpegs without any involvement or approval from the artist is INSANE.
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by frax on May 23, 2021 22:56:52 GMT 1, Price for the set is already at £5300 and still nearly 2 days to go... So the asked £5000 seem to be really fair!
£5,000 for images reproduced from internet sourced jpegs without any involvement or approval from the artist is INSANE.
Same discussion as so many times before:
Not officially authorized does not mean fake! No-one knows - except for B, DJ DM, and their crews of course 
Price for the set is already at £5300 and still nearly 2 days to go... So the asked £5000 seem to be really fair!
£5,000 for images reproduced from internet sourced jpegs without any involvement or approval from the artist is INSANE.
Same discussion as so many times before: Not officially authorized does not mean fake! No-one knows - except for B, DJ DM, and their crews of course |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by peas on May 23, 2021 23:01:38 GMT 1,
£5,000 for images reproduced from internet sourced jpegs without any involvement or approval from the artist is INSANE. Same discussion as so many times before: Not officially authorized does not mean fake! No-one knows - except for B, DJ DM, and their crews of course
To say 'no-one knows' is not true.
Pest Control confirmed what I wrote a number of years ago.
£5,000 for images reproduced from internet sourced jpegs without any involvement or approval from the artist is INSANE. Same discussion as so many times before: Not officially authorized does not mean fake! No-one knows - except for B, DJ DM, and their crews of course
To say 'no-one knows' is not true.
Pest Control confirmed what I wrote a number of years ago.
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by frax on May 23, 2021 23:02:59 GMT 1, Same discussion as so many times before: Not officially authorized does not mean fake! No-one knows - except for B, DJ DM, and their crews of course
To say 'no-one knows' is not true.
Pest Control confirmed what I wrote a number of years ago.
What did they exactly say?
Same discussion as so many times before: Not officially authorized does not mean fake! No-one knows - except for B, DJ DM, and their crews of course
To say 'no-one knows' is not true.
Pest Control confirmed what I wrote a number of years ago.
What did they exactly say? |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by peas on May 23, 2021 23:10:19 GMT 1, To say 'no-one knows' is not true.
Pest Control confirmed what I wrote a number of years ago.
What did they exactly say? That they are completely unauthorised and nothing at all to do with Banksy.
To say 'no-one knows' is not true.
Pest Control confirmed what I wrote a number of years ago.
What did they exactly say? That they are completely unauthorised and nothing at all to do with Banksy.
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by frax on May 23, 2021 23:19:36 GMT 1, What did they exactly say? That they are completely unauthorised and nothing at all to do with Banksy.
Interesting, I‘ve only heard so far they confirm it‘s unauthorized but do neither officially confirm nor deny a potential involvement of Banksy... So, in that case, there would still be room for speculations for some kind of collaboration.
What did they exactly say? That they are completely unauthorised and nothing at all to do with Banksy.
Interesting, I‘ve only heard so far they confirm it‘s unauthorized but do neither officially confirm nor deny a potential involvement of Banksy... So, in that case, there would still be room for speculations for some kind of collaboration. |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by quinn on May 23, 2021 23:23:22 GMT 1, It’s like pissing in the wind....
It’s like pissing in the wind....
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by dreadware on May 23, 2021 23:25:24 GMT 1, That they are completely unauthorised and nothing at all to do with Banksy.
Interesting, I‘ve only heard so far they confirm it‘s unauthorized but do neither officially confirm nor deny a potential involvement of Banksy... So, in that case, there would still be room for speculations for some kind of collaboration.
Unauthorised means exactly that...no involvement.
That they are completely unauthorised and nothing at all to do with Banksy.
Interesting, I‘ve only heard so far they confirm it‘s unauthorized but do neither officially confirm nor deny a potential involvement of Banksy... So, in that case, there would still be room for speculations for some kind of collaboration. Unauthorised means exactly that...no involvement. |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by peas on May 23, 2021 23:30:59 GMT 1, That they are completely unauthorised and nothing at all to do with Banksy.
Interesting, I‘ve only heard so far they confirm it‘s unauthorized but do neither officially confirm nor deny a potential involvement of Banksy... So, in that case, there would still be room for speculations for some kind of collaboration.
That they are completely unauthorised and nothing at all to do with Banksy.
Interesting, I‘ve only heard so far they confirm it‘s unauthorized but do neither officially confirm nor deny a potential involvement of Banksy... So, in that case, there would still be room for speculations for some kind of collaboration.
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by chomsky on May 24, 2021 1:28:26 GMT 1, One month ago...
www.ebay.com/itm/324578696646
Good luck with your sale ! If nobody wants it here, now you know where to sell
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by met on May 24, 2021 5:15:13 GMT 1, It’s like pissing in the wind....
In these situations, it can be difficult to assess whether an interlocutor is communicating in good faith:
1. They might just be blinkered by wishful thinking, confirmation bias, and/or a vested interest — desperately wanting the item(s) they own to have some official connection to Banksy. These are ignorant or foolish but nevertheless innocent actors on the forum.
2. Alternatively, they might already know or be quite certain about the unauthorised status of the record covers, but are cynically attempting to muddy the waters, subvert the truth, and create false hope in the minds of others — all with a view to protecting their vested interest. These are bad actors on the forum. I sense a fair number of them here, who are probably agreeable in conversation. And all-too-wiling to rationalise their dishonesty.
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Leaving aside earlier confirmations by Pest Control Office in writing*** with respect to these releases by chancers (who are also misleading people into believing DJDM = Danger Mouse), my gripe with the above innocent actors is that they're not using their brains.
Enthusiasts should be familiar with Banksy's modus operandi:
If any members are confused, they need only look at the official cover art Banksy designed for bands and labels — like One Cut, Capoeira Twins, Monk & Canatella, We Love You... So Love Us, Badmeaningood, Blak Twang, Röyksopp, and Blur. Moreover, the chronology of when he agreed to take on these commercial jobs is key: 1998–2003. Especially considering where he was as an artist at the time, career-wise and status-wise.
Consider as well the specific imagery whose unauthorised use we're talking about: Kate, Laugh Now, Radar Rat, Happy Choppers, Queen Vic, Monkey Queen, Grannies, Flag... — all previously released by Pictures On Walls as official limited edition prints.
Members can then ask themselves the following:
Would it really have been Banksy's style, let alone in his reputational interest, to allow those old images to be rehashed years later and slapped onto random album covers? For what benefit?
__________
On a separate note, collectors of albums that feature images stolen from Banksy (someone they presumably hold in respect) may wish to consider whether they're being consistent in their principles.
During the Gross Domestic Product event, most forum members who voiced opinions appeared to side with the artist in his dispute against Full Colour Black.
It was the obvious and rightful stance for us to take.
Fellow members, I would now submit that this position also seems irreconcilable with owning records that were issued by equally-egregious thieves of Banksy's intellectual property.
It’s like pissing in the wind.... In these situations, it can be difficult to assess whether an interlocutor is communicating in good faith: 1. They might just be blinkered by wishful thinking, confirmation bias, and/or a vested interest — desperately wanting the item(s) they own to have some official connection to Banksy. These are ignorant or foolish but nevertheless innocent actors on the forum. 2. Alternatively, they might already know or be quite certain about the unauthorised status of the record covers, but are cynically attempting to muddy the waters, subvert the truth, and create false hope in the minds of others — all with a view to protecting their vested interest. These are bad actors on the forum. I sense a fair number of them here, who are probably agreeable in conversation. And all-too-wiling to rationalise their dishonesty. __________ Leaving aside earlier confirmations by Pest Control Office in writing *** with respect to these releases by chancers (who are also misleading people into believing DJDM = Danger Mouse), my gripe with the above innocent actors is that they're not using their brains. Enthusiasts should be familiar with Banksy's modus operandi: If any members are confused, they need only look at the official cover art Ban ksy designed for bands and labels — like One Cut, Capoeira Twins, Monk & Canatella, We Love You... So Love Us, Badmeaningood, Blak Twang, Röyksopp, and Blur. Moreover, the chronology of when he agreed to take on these commercial jobs is key: 1998–2003. Especially considering where he was as an artist at the time, career-wise and status-wise. Consider as well the specific imagery whose unauthorised use we're talking about: Kate, Laugh Now, Radar Rat, Happy Choppers, Queen Vic, Monkey Queen, Grannies, Flag... — all previously released by Pictures On Walls as official limited edition prints. Members can then ask themselves the following: Would it really have been Ban ksy's style, let alone in his reputational interest, to allow those old images to be rehashed years later and slapped onto random album covers? For what benefit? __________ On a separate note, collectors of albums that feature images stolen from Ban ksy (someone they presumably hold in respect) may wish to consider whether they're being consistent in their principles. During the Gross Domestic Product event, most forum members who voiced opinions appeared to side with the artist in his dispute against Full Colour Black. It was the obvious and rightful stance for us to take. Fellow members, I would now submit that this position also seems irreconcilable with owning records that were issued by equally-egregious thieves of Ban ksy's intellectual property. |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by iamzero on May 24, 2021 7:31:28 GMT 1, Pest Control have also confirmed the skateboard decks with Clown are unauthorised so do these fall under your post Met?
Pest Control have also confirmed the skateboard decks with Clown are unauthorised so do these fall under your post Met?
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by Matt on May 24, 2021 9:03:03 GMT 1, Pest Control have also confirmed the skateboard decks with Clown are unauthorised so do these fall under your post Met?
Not really the same is it ?
Those 3 decks were unquestionably designed by Banksy for Clown
These album covers are unquestionably theft of Banksy designs (for reasons that met has clearly and thoroughly laid out)
The whole dumb debate about merch getting COA's and whether Clown were explicitly authorised to print the extra test press decks does not relate in any way to these albums
Pest Control have also confirmed the skateboard decks with Clown are unauthorised so do these fall under your post Met? Not really the same is it ? Those 3 decks were unquestionably designed by Banksy for Clown These album covers are unquestionably theft of Banksy designs (for reasons that met has clearly and thoroughly laid out)
The whole dumb debate about merch getting COA's and whether Clown were explicitly authorised to print the extra test press decks does not relate in any way to these albums |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by DAVE on May 24, 2021 9:50:19 GMT 1, Pest Control have also confirmed the skateboard decks with Clown are unauthorised so do these fall under your post Met? Not really the same is it ? Those 3 decks were unquestionably designed by Banksy for Clown These album covers are unquestionably theft of Banksy designs (for reasons that met has clearly and thoroughly laid out)
The whole dumb debate about merch getting COA's and whether Clown were explicitly authorised to print the extra test press decks does not relate in any way to these albums
Let’s get this discussion going a bit more. I’ve been thinking we need another Clown thread ....
Pest Control have also confirmed the skateboard decks with Clown are unauthorised so do these fall under your post Met? Not really the same is it ? Those 3 decks were unquestionably designed by Banksy for Clown These album covers are unquestionably theft of Banksy designs (for reasons that met has clearly and thoroughly laid out)
The whole dumb debate about merch getting COA's and whether Clown were explicitly authorised to print the extra test press decks does not relate in any way to these albumsLet’s get this discussion going a bit more. I’ve been thinking we need another Clown thread .... |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by iamzero on May 24, 2021 10:43:28 GMT 1, Pest Control have also confirmed the skateboard decks with Clown are unauthorised so do these fall under your post Met? Not really the same is it ? Those 3 decks were unquestionably designed by Banksy for Clown These album covers are unquestionably theft of Banksy designs (for reasons that met has clearly and thoroughly laid out)
The whole dumb debate about merch getting COA's and whether Clown were explicitly authorised to print the extra test press decks does not relate in any way to these albums
I agree with it not being an identical situation but they are the same in the fact that Pest Control have said both items are unauthorised.
Pest Control have also confirmed the skateboard decks with Clown are unauthorised so do these fall under your post Met? Not really the same is it ? Those 3 decks were unquestionably designed by Banksy for Clown These album covers are unquestionably theft of Banksy designs (for reasons that met has clearly and thoroughly laid out)
The whole dumb debate about merch getting COA's and whether Clown were explicitly authorised to print the extra test press decks does not relate in any way to these albumsI agree with it not being an identical situation but they are the same in the fact that Pest Control have said both items are unauthorised. |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by grafik on May 24, 2021 21:13:24 GMT 1, i had a full set of these, original packing, original receipt etc etc.
tried to sell them on ebay and you will find as soon as your auction ends its pulled by ebay as Pest Control submit copyright claim against it.
you cannot sell these on ebay basically.
I ended up getting £400 each of them. £2.4k total. This was last year.
i had a full set of these, original packing, original receipt etc etc.
tried to sell them on ebay and you will find as soon as your auction ends its pulled by ebay as Pest Control submit copyright claim against it.
you cannot sell these on ebay basically.
I ended up getting £400 each of them. £2.4k total. This was last year.
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by grafik on May 24, 2021 21:15:19 GMT 1, Dear Mr grafik,
DACS acts on behalf of Pest Control Office Ltd (PCO), which holds exclusive rights in artworks by the artist Banksy.
PCO has informed us that the listings complained about in the takedown notice feature unauthorised reproductions of artworks by Banksy. Banksy was never connected with Dirty Funker and the images of the artworks featured on the album sleeves are infringing.
Please reach out to www.pestcontroloffice.com if you wish to discuss this matter further.
Regards,
Legal Team
DACS
Dear Mr grafik, DACS acts on behalf of Pest Control Office Ltd (PCO), which holds exclusive rights in artworks by the artist Banksy. PCO has informed us that the listings complained about in the takedown notice feature unauthorised reproductions of artworks by Banksy. Banksy was never connected with Dirty Funker and the images of the artworks featured on the album sleeves are infringing. Please reach out to www.pestcontroloffice.com if you wish to discuss this matter further. Regards, Legal Team DACS |
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Banksy Radar Rat • Dirty Funker 12", by concrete jungle on May 24, 2021 21:39:41 GMT 1, i had a full set of these, original packing, original receipt etc etc. tried to sell them on ebay and you will find as soon as your auction ends its pulled by ebay as Pest Control submit copyright claim against it. you cannot sell these on ebay basically. I ended up getting £400 each of them. £2.4k total. This was last year.
i had a full set of these, original packing, original receipt etc etc. tried to sell them on ebay and you will find as soon as your auction ends its pulled by ebay as Pest Control submit copyright claim against it. you cannot sell these on ebay basically. I ended up getting £400 each of them. £2.4k total. This was last year. Strange - I sold a couple of Dirty Funkers and a Laugh Now vinyl via eBay last year and had no issues with PC. Appreciate they are upping their game now though - have heard are starting to look for ARR on previous print sales when looking PC COA or change of owner..... |
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