[gbh]

what ^ said

[Guest]

Oct 19, 2008 13:25:01 GMT 1 mishco said:

i really don't see the point on selling on here. the majority of forum members had the opportunity to buy these at cost and those that didn't buy obviously didn't want one. i had the opportunity and thought f**k spending that amount of money on that piece. just my opinion of course but if you bought to flip immediately surely you should go to ebay.

good point and a good post

[gbh]

last time I looked this was a discussion forum, not a dogant tells everyone what to do forum?
I must not have received that memo, must have words with my secretary in the morning.

edit:eBay is definitely best if you don't want people talking shit in your for sale threads.

[graeme501]

if u regret the purchase, and didnt purchase to flip, then why not return it to brp, or offer it at cost on the forum? problem solved

[graeme501]

ill keep talking shit if u like

indeed u owe blackratpress or nick walker nothing, and its up2 u what u do with it, but offering it on the forum for £200 more than u paid a few days ago, then moaning that people r talking shit on your thread and that u didnt purchase to flip

but since it seems that these are dropping in price fairly sharpish, somebody i know offered me one at cost today, but alas i have no money, so have a free bump for your sale

[graeme501]

indeed he might, all i know is i got a txt and he said he thought he could afford it and turns out he could do with the money and it was available at cost

[gbh]

sour grapes?
you need to slowly step away from the keyboard for a while.....

Obviously you are pissed because I brought the reality of pricing into this thread.
sorry that has cut down your flip margin.
tough titties, that's the flipping game..
hold on to it, prices will come back again eventually.


could it be that I was honestly just giving an opinion on pricing and prices that are current? (as people often do on this forum). All the prices and stats I have mentioned are accurate and from verifiable sources, I'm the bad guy for pointing out the true facts???


Seriously, if you don't want discussion in your for sale thread then don't post it in a discussion forum.

Others said it was a great price in the top of this thread, I said it wasn't.
Why aren't you having a go at them for pissing in your thread as well and continuing to bring up this thread in the last 100 posts? (I smell hypocrisy here....)

why would I want to piss on this thread? I have nearly but not quite struck up trades with loads of members here......
I haven't drawn and quartered their cats ....?


think you are getting a bit delusional and it's now clearly telling that I have managed to get under your skin.
For this I am sorry...........
but I do stand by everything I have said.

Once again, best of luck with the sale.

I will continue to talk shit when/where and as required in this or any other thread.

A wise man once told me - "never judge someone by their avatar ..or avatars..."

[They call me Stephen]

sounds like the only way people can make money out of prints at the moment is either by selling straight away to those who missed out and are prepared to pay over the top or by waiting ages for the artists profile and rarity of the print to increase.

sell now for little over cost....it will only fetch lower and lower prices in the imediate future

[funyoung]

Oct 19, 2008 16:51:10 GMT 1 @dogant said:

Many thanks for all the comments - I am sure you will be delighted to know the print is still for sale @ "market value".

Any interested parties that no longer wish to pay less than yesterdays ebay prices and more like todays ebay prices (said, going rate) - please drop me a PM.

Have a great evening all.

'no longer wish to pay less' = now wish to pay more
Do you really mean to imply that there are people who want to pay above ebay prices?.



By the way - is 'gbh' really the man in the moon?

[timba82]

has everyone gone a little doolaly here?

the market has been saturated at PRESENT with people trying to make a quick buck off the back of the release.

give it a couple of months when there is far few for sale and this will be a much more desirable print again.

i'll stand by my thoughts that this is still a classic NW image an a run of only 95.

i think for those that keep this print and ride the print market / finacial market collapse it will regain its deserved stature in market price and desirability.

good luck with the sale dogant

[moleman]

a bump for standing in brp qs but you should of expected the abuse i dont know who it was but the 2 guys selling supermans got some shit about that

[curiousgeorge]

How fickle this board is, i remember when stuff was being being sold here at 2 or 3x the cost.And no-one would bat an eyelid!!

Good luck with the sale mate

[rosstierney]

current market value = cost + postage = £474

cgi.ebay.co.uk/NICK-WALKER-RATATOUILLE-EDITION-OF-95-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ200263500793QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item200263500793&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A13|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[moleman]

your all right stuff is sold on here 2-3x over cost and people by it
i have bouight sold on here and the bay
and seriously good luck with the sale but just because q buddies stick together you cant help but notice the double standards
i dont want to hear any of you on this thread moaning about the dreaded flippers any more
we all know the truth and know who and what people do so lets move on and get on with our own art collection
ill give you 474 for it

[timba82]

whoever bought this print with the intention of flipping it straight away have got what was coming to them.

Dogant i'm defo not saying your intentions were to flip it mate. i know you have a new born etc and you have most probably well and truely over spent recently so your situation is different compared to most on here - certainly me....

now is the prefect time to buy one and sit on it peeps.
frame it and enjoy it for a while.
watch what happens in a year or 2. i have a funny feeling in my bones we will be rubbing our hands together with a nice smile on faces when we see what its gona be worth.

[timba82]

and by the way its no coincedence the print market crashed when the financial market crashed.......people arent spending what they used to but lets just see what happens when it all picks up again shall we.
its all relative

[dogant]

After spending too much time on this thread - I have decided to deleted all my posts regarding the sale of the NW Rat.

Going forward - if anyone wishes to discuss - please note, I will now only discuss through PM's.

All the very best to all that have had a viewpoint - both postive and negative.

Out.

[bullet]

Oct 19, 2008 18:56:45 GMT 1 @rosstierney said:

current market value = cost + postage = £474

cgi.ebay.co.uk/NICK-WALKER-RATATOUILLE-EDITION-OF-95-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ200263500793QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item200263500793&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A13|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

how was that one worked out?

What i find funny with the forum in particular and no offence to you ross is that people are always putting stuff down and down and down. In my mind they are hoping to get the scent off so they can have a go. There is a lot outside of this forum, the majority who are buying these no nothing of this place and never will.

All this place has become in the majority is a place where people can big up their collections, try and belittle other peoples tastes and insult. This wont make any difference.

Plus if your going to be picky about it, 7 of these have actually sold on ebay and if you dont even include the price of postage the average price is £728.29

So once those people that were busting to shit this print out on ebay but black rat press stopped them pass through the gut, the edition size, quality and the fact that its a sought after artist will make this desirable. Particularly after the bonhams auctions, exactly the same as what happened last year.

Its a buyers marker, but this wont carry on for 'years' at all, Give it 6 months and confidence will come back if you want it to.

And i dont actually own a nick walker so im just making a point.

[moleman]

thought you got one of these

wheres dave

[bullet]

nope, bought it on behalf and have seen one

[JD]

Was the first new release for ages I just had to have then the MRS said why do you want a picture of Mr Ben blowing up a rat. Funny how one comment makes you go off something

[timba82]

you should just tell he to button it mate......i do!! works every time ;-)

[bullet]

people have to take their influence from somewhere otherwise art and design would be very sparse.

the funniest example lately was when some moron on here compared a channel 5 billboard ad to one of the dface pieces, you know, the ones that look like lichtenstein.

unbreakable.five.tv/

Funny that, somehow i dont think even D*FACE was exactly the inventor of that style. cant remember who did invent it though. Might have been some artist somewhere

i painted some coloured dots once when i was 5 only to realise i copied hirst who did it 15 years later

[wave]

Did a trade for a Rataouille and if you've got the opportunity to get one at a decent price go for it. I've already got VA and this is far superior IMO. The finishing is superb. A future classic

[Guest]

I agree with Wave, its a great image

[graffoto]

Oct 19, 2008 22:34:24 GMT 1 JD said:

Was the first new release for ages I just had to have then the MRS said why do you want a picture of Mr Ben blowing up a rat. Funny how one comment makes you go off something

funny got exactly the same response + she didn't want the rugrat looking at exploding aminals.

[bullet]

does she wear glasses? did she have them on?

dont get that above statement at all

[Guest]

Oct 20, 2008 10:15:32 GMT 1 @graffoto said:

Oct 19, 2008 22:34:24 GMT 1 JD said:

Was the first new release for ages I just had to have then the MRS said why do you want a picture of Mr Ben blowing up a rat. Funny how one comment makes you go off something

funny got exactly the same response + she didn't want the rugrat looking at exploding aminals.

under the thumb eh?

[graffoto]

or the secret of staying happily still married - depending on which way you look at it - you win some you loose some - (more wins that losses on the whole)

[Guest]

Fair do mate