[oliversmark]

Quick Fire round!!!!

Outa the three artists, who do fellow forumers rate the most- based on:
1) aesthetically pleasing works
2) Raw ability
3) Bankability £$
4) Potential for greatness

Thought it might be an interesting one....
Lets see .......................

;D

[Deleted]

1)SPQR
2)Nick Walker
3)Dont get invloved in predictions about wonga
4??

[romanywg]

I guess with Aphetically you mean aesthetically?
Nick Walker all the way.

[victorwilliams]

Nick Walker, understated class.

[weaver]

Jul 27, 2008 14:15:31 GMT 1 oliversmark said:

Quick Fire round!!!!

Outa the three artists, who do fellow forumers rate the most- based on:
1) Aphetically pleasing works
2) Raw ability
3) Bankability £$
4) Potential for greatness

Thought it might be an interesting one....
Lets see .......................

;D

Read as.....
Quick fire round,

1) Who will people buy in the near future?
2) who's work will people buy?
3) Who's work will make me the most money?
4) Who's work will make me the most money in the future?

Won't be an interesting one as its about money again.

Lets not bother doing our own groundwork and just buy what people tell us to.

[tommyp]

Love 'em all but i'm gonna stick my neck out for D*Face, loving his stuff...

[alsbabar]

is this forum getting so desperate that topics like this have to be hatched up to create debate, regurcitate the same old s**te about the who is the best out of, who will make you the most money - talk about art for f**ks sake

Silky i think its time to start trimming the number of threads are created - a lot of them are total bollocks and are a waste of time and pushes the interesting stuff further down and out of sight!!

I nominate that this thread is the first to be deleted

[jon11]

angry little man get back in your box! the turnover of people on this forum means mayb a newer member wants to cover these points... and it did all sound all vaguely art related!

i think eelus is well under rated - he's not been going at this for that long and some of his street and non publicized works really rock

the walker prices at the last show were just staggering

actually you're right alsbabar this is shit... come on talk about the art who gives a fuck about this shit... are you a closet flipper - i would say yes defo

[alsbabar]

what the fuck are you talking about you moron - if newbies want to find out information, they can scroll through previous subjects

why would i need to be a closet flipper - if i own art, what i do with it is my fucking business, not yours, if i sell fuck you, if i burn it fuck you, if i decide to frame it and place it on my wall, guess what, fuck you

now go back to pretending you know my shit

[jon11]

get back in your box little man - i was referring to oliver the guy who started this topic on the flipping note - and agreeing with you this is a waste of time - go back reread it then feel a little smaller than you already are

i dont know your shit and dont want to i dont appreciate you saying fuck you so wind it in

[pfffffffffft]

Personally I love D*faces stuff, some of his images are iconic, easily recognizable, and do evoke a response. That said I love eelus' work as well. Personally I dont care for nick walker. He has a couple of really great images then personally I find the rest rather boring. I like moona, knickers, and a couple others but I cant speak much for the rest.

[alsbabar]

jon11 - then state who you were referring to - your response seemed like a pop at me

[oliversmark]

Jesus- talk about hard 2 please!!!! I own originals done by all three- Just buy art cos I like it- Yeah Graffiti art is fairly new 2 me but am I not aloud 2 ask questions like the rest of u? If you didnt like the post dont reply- talk about being rude and nasty 4 the sake of it. Really shocked
Laters

[giiiant]

cant say any of the three appeal to me, though i do like where eelus is going

[Stella Dore]

In answer to the q's:

1 BUY WHAT YOU LIKE
2 BUY WHAT YOU LIKE
3 BUY WHAT YOU LIKE
4 BUY WHAT YOU LIKE

[jon11]

oliversmark did you see some of the bits EE did for the anti smoking bit in the states - think they're on his site now - they rock

keep the passion and interest and ignore the nasty spiteful folk - myself at times included

what do you own by those you mentioned... and what do you think - to answer your own questions

cheers

[Simococo]

dface by 2.7 country miles
top of the graphic design/street pile and will be remembered for defining a genre.

[snakes]

Alphabetically - Eine all the way!

[Heavyconsumer]

Never been a fan of DFace's work, although there have been one or two images I've thought were interesting takes, such as CliChe and a few of the one-offs. While I think the green tarts and a few other prints look good, I don't think he can be credited too highly for such unoriginal work and while he may be a superb design mind, I respect him for how I see him: I think he's a brilliant creator of brand and then working it to the max (this is respectful, not insulting, so D-fans, please don't read between any lines, there's no shame in being good at something or making money from it imo and that was not a dig, but I just don't see him as a great artist).

I was not a fan of Eelus' work, but he's really got me interested with his apparent change of gear and I respect him a great deal for keeping his print prices well within the realm of affordability when he could easily be charging at least 50% more imo. If Raivenhaired gets released as a multiple, I will be all over it, as I think its a classic image.

Walker imo was one of the unsung heros before Bonhams early this year. I was still fairly new to the scene and in contact with his administrator/helper/wife/whoever the lady is, regarding buying a few pieces and payment methods, but wasn't quick enough on the trigger and now can't afford the more desirable stuff, DOH! I rate him because I feel he has a very distinct style/brand and has put a few excellent images out there, although I'm not a lover of the majority of them. However the TMA series has been special and one of the hilights of the genre recently imo.

On a general note, I think that my choice of the 3 for aesthetically pleasing is NW, but a single favourite image (most like to have) is a very close toss between his TMA on aluminium (nice one Pud!) and Raivenhaired by Eelus. I certainly don't feel that at this stage any of the 3 is destined for "mainstream greatness" in the long-term though, compared with Banksy, Neate or Micallef and as for bankability NO IDEA and I think the question intrudes a bit on appreciation of the art for it's own sake. But perhaps that's because I'm not one of the members with a hugely valuable collection! ;D

EDIT:- sorry for my much too long and boring post.

[oliversmark]

Not 2 long or boring, most intresting mate
Answer 2 my own question:
Eelus,Eelus,Eelus,Eelus!!!!!
Really dig his new stuff- amazing ideas, colours, images- look sick on the wall!
I have NW Triptych canvas
Various Eelus gems- latest buy 'grin and bare back it'
D*Face cli che- thats the only 1 not an original
IMO the skys the limit for E- Dont get me wrong the others are spot on 2 ;D

[Daniel Silk]

Jul 27, 2008 14:15:31 GMT 1 oliversmark said:

Quick Fire round!!!!

Outa the three artists, who do fellow forumers rate the most- based on:
1) aesthetically pleasing works
2) Raw ability
3) Bankability £$
4) Potential for greatness

Thought it might be an interesting one....
Lets see .......................

;D

Very hard to say

They all have great skills and the ability to move near Banksy's current position ;D But I think the things they will need to take it to the next stage are connections to the right people and places, making the right moves at the right times, and a big chunk of luck! ;D

[Heavyconsumer]

Jul 27, 2008 19:36:23 GMT 1 oliversmark said:

Not 2 long or boring, most intresting mate
Answer 2 my own question:
Eelus,Eelus,Eelus,Eelus!!!!!
Really dig his new stuff- amazing ideas, colours, images- look sick on the wall!
I have NW Triptych canvas
Various Eelus gems- latest buy 'grin and bare back it'
DFace cli che- thats the only 1 not an original
IMO the skys the limit for E- Dont get me wrong the others are spot on 2 ;D

IMO, this is by far his best print. There were 1 or 2 left at O'Contemporary when I called them, but at £600 I couldn't bring myself to do it. I also liked some of the CliChe collages and reworkings at the BRP show (not that I went but I saw the images online).

[skelly]

I put Kaws over Dface for marketing a brand to the max and basically doing the graphic design thing best.


But I don't really like any of these three guys, Eelus looks like he might be getting better from his recent work.

[junkieart]

D, NW then E, for me, wicked it rhythms!!k Many on here Hate D's work, but going to BRP exhibit, he's f'ing great. i'll buy his the same reason I brought B's work, because I like lie it !!
Go D`!!

[oliversmark]

Best way 2 do it mate ;D

[bostonlongstroke]

The 1st artist that I bought a piece from was Shep Fairey(OBEY).

But, I've since become and undying fan of D*'s stuff!

However, I like a number of artists work(not a fan of Kaws, though). I just wish it wasn't so goddam expensive for OG's!!!

I just spent $10K on a D* original from his recent FIFTY24SF show. It's awesome... but sh1t, this art collecting is gonna clean me out! I'll be in the soup kitchen lines by xmas time.

[Ruggs]

1) Nick Walker - Almost all his work is a pleasure to look at.
2) Adam Neate - Simply amazing natural artistic ability.
3) Banksy - Anything he does no matter how good or bad turns to gold.
4) Dolk - Some great underrated work. There's more good stuff to come!

[bullet]

i would not even class adam neate in this, its not even urban art anymore in my opinion.

i would move banksy to number 2, dface to 3 and dolk stays at 4

[robinbanks]

Jul 27, 2008 14:15:31 GMT 1 oliversmark said:

Quick Fire round!!!!

Outa the three artists, who do fellow forumers rate the most- based on:
1) aesthetically pleasing works
2) Raw ability
3) Bankability £$
4) Potential for greatness

1) Nick Walker (although as previously mentioned Eelus appears to have really upped his game).
2) Nick Walker - been there from the start - innovator not imitator.
3) No comment
4) If by greatness you mean a place in Art History along with Hirst, Warhol and Van Gogh, then none of them. I would say that out of the entire street art scene/movement (whatever you want to call it) only Banksy has a real chance of still being talked about in 50 years time.

[Deleted]

Jul 29, 2008 22:30:46 GMT 1 bullet said:

i would not even class adam neate in this, its not even urban ary anymore in my opinion.

i would move banksy to number 2, dface to 3 and dolk stays at 4

neates done as much work on the streets as most of these recently. you cant really call walker (recently) a prolific street painter.