[Deleted]

Sold out months ago.

[Deleted]

It's crazy. Original sources had Sorayama prints available for cheap for YEARS! Now they are all gone. Just about a year ago you could have purchased his prints for extremely cheap prices.

He has been around for a long time and it's crazy to see his popularity explode these past few years. Once the Dior hype drops a little I'm wondering if his market drops down again. He hasn't done anything really new in decades it seems. He was very popular in Japan a while back but I'm not so sure anymore.

[blerd]

I agree about being able to buy his prints. Tbh some aren't ahem my taste either tbh! Haha!

Having said that the slow burning Artists are often the best IMO. The same could be said about Carmen Herrera. Sorayama is much more than Dior. He's a legend and from what I can see that isn't abating. Especially in Japan.

[ca]

I dont know, who wants a robot lady in a dress surfing a pink wave on their wall? Not me, personally...I think his work does work very well in sculpture format tho

[touchdowntodd]

Jul 25, 2019 20:37:09 GMT 1 ca said:

I dont know, who wants a robot lady in a dress surfing a pink wave on their wall? Not me, personally...I think his work does work very well in sculpture format tho

The same people want it that buy most case now.. collectors that are just putting all this into storage and displaying very little, with the idea of having large 1 time art auction in the future.. that's what that company has become. I never see even 10% of a release on display

[nobokov]

Jul 25, 2019 17:30:45 GMT 1 @toughart said:

It's crazy. Original sources had Sorayama prints available for cheap for YEARS! Now they are all gone. Just about a year ago you could have purchased his prints for extremely cheap prices.

He has been around for a long time and it's crazy to see his popularity explode these past few years. Once the Dior hype drops a little I'm wondering if his market drops down again. He hasn't done anything really new in decades it seems. He was very popular in Japan a while back but I'm not so sure anymore.

It's a bit surprising that he's popular. I get the interest in shiny female robots, but the rest of his artwork looks like very dated sexploitation from the 70s.

[Deleted]

Prints aren’t really what sorayama is about., Even the most naive art eye can work that out surely?

Huge collab with Christian Dior and this forum decided he’s irrelevant.. 😂😂

I got the Midas touch hand because I wasn’t snoozing like the rest of you.

Keep on trucking

[dustinb]

Wonder whether other colors will be released in the future

[Express Post]

Congrats. These were tough to get.
People are upset cuz they missed out on the flip. 3-4x the very least.
The Dior collab didn't sell that well. A lot of the Sorayama saddle bags were given away because they sold so poorly. I don't think it changed anything for his market. Like he ain't killing it at Christie's, Sotheby's of Phillips.
I secured mine through Nanzuka because I already buy a lot of Haroshi sculptures from them. They are the best!

Jul 25, 2019 21:32:48 GMT 1 @artismylife1975 said:

Prints aren’t really what sorayama is about., Even the most naive art eye can work that out surely?

Huge collab with Christian Dior and this forum decided he’s irrelevant.. 😂😂

I got the Midas touch hand because I wasn’t snoozing like the rest of you.

Keep on trucking

[Deleted]

Jul 25, 2019 22:19:49 GMT 1 Express Post said:

Congrats. These were tough to get.
People are upset cuz they missed out on the flip. 3-4x the very least.
The Dior collab didn't sell that well. A lot of the Sorayama saddle bags were given away because they sold so poorly. I don't think it changed anything for his market. Like he ain't killing it at Christie's, Sotheby's of Phillips.
I secured mine through Nanzuka because I already buy a lot of Haroshi sculptures from them. They are the best!

Jul 25, 2019 21:32:48 GMT 1 @artismylife1975 said:

Prints aren’t really what sorayama is about., Even the most naive art eye can work that out surely?

Huge collab with Christian Dior and this forum decided he’s irrelevant.. 😂😂

I got the Midas touch hand because I wasn’t snoozing like the rest of you.

Keep on trucking

Agree with all of it.. the Dior range was very catwalk and hard to use in everyday life. BUT Dior don’t collab with nobodies.

If you can hook me up a Haroshi that would be sweet! They Are fire!

[gd79]

I have a sorayama bearbrick. Love it.

[crisol]

since March there was a waiting list .. case closed many months ago 

[maven]

Missed this thread. Do you know where I can go to buy Sorayama prints etc...?
I agree the sculptures look the best.

[Deleted]

@artismylife1975

No but all the noobie collectors, who are being fooled by Dior hype and know nothing about Sorayama, think they are discovering a new and up coming artist. This is a mistake. He’s been around forever and his art hasn’t changed in decades. To me this was easy way out for Dior. Dior is going to end up cheaping it’s brand name by using these Uniqlo-like artists every season. Dior is now just seems like a overpriced Uniqlo, maybe it always was (not that I ever bought a single thing from Dior). 

My point about the prints is the hype is so great right with Sorayama; even his horrible prints are now sold out when they been siting on the same website for years until Dior. Sorayama is a great artist but I don’t see how he will grow from here. This is a random bump in his career.  He hasn’t made anything new nor really gaining any new ground in the fine art world. Seems like this just a tacky urban art attempt by Dior using a old washed up art style.

His work only looks futuristic to those who don’t know it. People who know Sorayama for decades, know this is repeat and now old borings**t. His really old Sony robot dog was the best thing he designed. If you like him you should try and find one of those.

Nanzuka has serious problems as well. It’s definitely not my favorite gallery.

[Fake]

what was the price?

[london]

does anyone every have any luck with case studios? seems like all releases are backdoor.

[Happy Shopper]

Jul 26, 2019 12:00:37 GMT 1 Fake said:

what was the price?

Someone mentioned on facebook €2100 after shipping and tax.

[Express Post]

€1750 exc VAT and shipping.

This was a slam dunk flip. Guaranteed to make 3-4x your money. Why wouldn't you have a go? Like how the pejac disciples only ever buy at cost.

[diarmid]

Jul 26, 2019 12:02:18 GMT 1 london said:

does anyone every have any luck with case studios? seems like all releases are backdoor.

yea

[19818914]

Jul 26, 2019 12:50:21 GMT 1 Express Post said:

€1750 exc VAT and shipping.

This was a slam dunk flip. Guaranteed to make 3-4x your money. Why wouldn't you have a go? Like how the pejac disciples only ever buy at cost.

Much better investments out there than editions.

[Deleted]

Jul 26, 2019 13:18:05 GMT 1 19818914 said:

Jul 26, 2019 12:50:21 GMT 1 Express Post said:

€1750 exc VAT and shipping.

This was a slam dunk flip. Guaranteed to make 3-4x your money. Why wouldn't you have a go? Like how the pejac disciples only ever buy at cost.

Much better investments out there than editions.

Much better investments than editions for £2000?

If you are buying original art at this price point, it is a total punt.

[19818914]

Jul 26, 2019 13:56:21 GMT 1 @artismylife1975 said:

Jul 26, 2019 13:18:05 GMT 1 19818914 said:

Much better investments out there than editions.

Much better investments than editions for £2000?

If you are buying original art at this price point, it is a total punt.

I’m not talking about art. Just a statement that you don’t need to be flipping editions to make money.

[Deleted]

Jul 26, 2019 13:59:23 GMT 1 19818914 said:

Jul 26, 2019 13:56:21 GMT 1 @artismylife1975 said:

Much better investments than editions for £2000?

If you are buying original art at this price point, it is a total punt.

I’m not talking about art. Just a statement that you don’t need to be flipping editions to make money.

Well that’s fairly obvious. I mean I even get paid to work 😂

Art is and has been the best way to invest your money for years, if you know what you are doing of course.

Personally I buy art as a passion and investment and might buy something I hate if I see long term profit and things I love that will lose money but I want to look at.

Honest and I think many operate the same way.

[19818914]

Jul 26, 2019 14:12:27 GMT 1 @artismylife1975 said:

Jul 26, 2019 13:59:23 GMT 1 19818914 said:

I’m not talking about art. Just a statement that you don’t need to be flipping editions to make money.

Well that’s fairly obvious. I mean I even get paid to work 😂

Art is and has been the best way to invest your money for years, if you know what you are doing of course.

Personally I buy art as a passion and investment and might buy something I hate if I see long term profit and things I love that will lose money but I want to look at.

Honest and I think many operate the same way.

I just see a lot of people here looking to make just a few k here and there over some pieces of art when they can be investing and applying themselves in much more lucrative ways. 

[thisisit]

Jul 26, 2019 11:56:33 GMT 1 @toughart said:

@artismylife1975

No but all the noobie collectors, who are being fooled by Dior hype and know nothing about Sorayama, think they are discovering a new and up coming artist. This is a mistake. He’s been around forever and his art hasn’t changed in decades. To me this was easy way out for Dior. Dior is going to end up cheaping it’s brand name by using these Uniqlo-like artists every season. Dior is now just seems like a overpriced Uniqlo, maybe it always was (not that I ever bought a single thing from Dior). 

My point about the prints is the hype is so great right with Sorayama; even his horrible prints are now sold out when they been siting on the same website for years until Dior. Sorayama is a great artist but I don’t see how he will grow from here. This is a random bump in his career.  He hasn’t made anything new nor really gaining any new ground in the fine art world. Seems like this just a tacky urban art attempt by Dior using a old washed up art style.

His work only looks futuristic to those who don’t know it. People who know Sorayama for decades, know this is repeat and now old borings**t. His really old Sony robot dog was the best thing he designed. If you like him you should try and find one of those.

Nanzuka has serious problems as well. It’s definitely not my favorite gallery.

I really like your post, and can agree on lots of things on many levels. 

As for Dior though, it is always considered as a level below the exclusive luxury brands like Hermes, Chanel and Prada. 
So I don't think they are hurting their reputation, as it was always sub exclusive luxury brand. And with these collaborations they managed to sell prices at the level of the super luxury brands. 

Only ones hurt are the people that think (xyz Artist) is going to be in history books because he did a Dior Collaboration. I feel sorry for those people, they will realise in 5-10 years the have been collecting all the wrong artists.
By all means buy KAWS prints at retail from PACE if you can. But If xyz is the next Dior Collaboration, I would not advise on spending thousands on a bronze sculpture by him released by case studio... 

[Deleted]

My advice is to trust yourself because 99% of the people on here wouldn’t know good art if it slapped them with a kipper ( no offence)

Everyone’s an expert on here and no agrees on anything which does make you wonder... 😂😂

[Express Post]

No one ever said editions were the way to go.
This particular edition is worth getting at cost and then palming off straightaway.

Jul 26, 2019 13:18:05 GMT 1 19818914 said:

Jul 26, 2019 12:50:21 GMT 1 Express Post said:

€1750 exc VAT and shipping.

This was a slam dunk flip. Guaranteed to make 3-4x your money. Why wouldn't you have a go? Like how the pejac disciples only ever buy at cost.

Much better investments out there than editions.

[Express Post]

Pejac and Oli Epp are the bestests.

Jul 26, 2019 14:58:41 GMT 1 @artismylife1975 said:

My advice is to trust yourself because 99% of the people on here wouldn’t know good art if it slapped them with a kipper ( no offence)

Everyone’s an expert on here and no agrees on anything which does make you wonder... 😂😂

[Deleted]

Jul 26, 2019 15:18:35 GMT 1 Express Post said:

Pejac and Oli Epp are the bestests.

Jul 26, 2019 14:58:41 GMT 1 @artismylife1975 said:

My advice is to trust yourself because 99% of the people on here wouldn’t know good art if it slapped them with a kipper ( no offence)

Everyone’s an expert on here and no agrees on anything which does make you wonder... 😂😂

Sold out of Pejac mate. There is always a right time to sell before you do your cobblers. The management simply don’t cut it.

Oli Epp will prove to be an excellent artist to collect. This forum and its hype machine has absolutely no bearing on what he’ll achieve long term.

Knowledge is power

[19818914]

Jul 26, 2019 15:21:14 GMT 1 @artismylife1975 said:

Jul 26, 2019 15:18:35 GMT 1 Express Post said:

Pejac and Oli Epp are the bestests.

Sold out of Pejac mate. There is always a right time to sell before you do your cobblers. The management simply don’t cut it.

Oli Epp will prove to be an excellent artist to collect. This forum and its hype machine has absolutely no bearing on what he’ll achieve long term.

Knowledge is power

His LA show was incredible and his newer paintings for his show in Berlin are a step above.