[bullet]

I would rather sell this to a member of the forum as the ebay fees are getting silly.

Any offers before ebay?

Ive just added a swap option at the top as well...

[voodooguru]

PM'd you mate

[graeme501]

some1 buy it, give it to mrframeman, then u can be in the cool gang, like me

[bullet]

jesus thats nice.

what size is that frame? Makes the print look about half the size!

[felix]

There's those famous pants again

[bobbyt23]

Jul 22, 2008 18:13:15 GMT 1 felix said:

There's those famous pants again

Any excuse and Graeme gets those bad boys out!

[graeme501]

haha, in the photo, it looks more like jeans, not sure the size of the frame, id say maybe 90cmx90cm

[bullet]

bump before the bay

[bullet]

i will hold off until tomorrow evening for the bay with this, as i think its a great deal for someone, im not looking to cash in on it, but for an A/P of an edition of only 50 anyway i would say thats pretty much are bargain.

checked espresso beans and the highest an A/P of this has sold for on ebay is £1450

cant say i did not try! cheers

J

[Zippy]

nice print jboy.
tell me, what is the difference between the A/p and the main run prints?

[bullet]

dunno, thats what it says on my COA and print.

The A/P is obviously an Artist Proof which would have been given by dface or are the original tests. No different from the original run but obviously only a few of them. There is obvious paint and handfinishing on the one ive got, but havent seen a regular one to compare

J

[Zippy]

sounds cool. Its the paint and hand-finishing i'm interested in.

[bullet]

here you are, definition of an artist proof:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_proof

[bullet]

its a watercolour handfinishing.

one of dfaces more grown up pieces

it says on the BRP site that each skull is individually painted

[Photoxtc]

soooooo nice!!! I always liked this one....

And that is a great frame job up above!

[meatbag]

Although this is a way over used iconic image, I've always liked D's interpretation.

[bullet]

final call, i can understand the time of the month etc if its to much for people on here. I think it will go well on ebay though when it gets offered out.

PM me if interested.

J

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

they are all the same as jboys.

the watercolour is a wash over the etching. not every skull done individually!

[bullet]

read the BRP description, if you can be arsed...it is

Death and Glory
We want you to know how hard this print was to make
First of all we chose to use 400grm BFK Rives Arches paper. This paper is so heavy that field mice and small birds of prey often become trapped under a single sheet.
Each sheet is then soaked in water for 24 hours so the ink will take to the paper.
We couldnt use a steel plate, because it couldnt give us the level of detail we needed. The acid bites too hard into the plate. So we used a zinc plate.
Then we used acid that you cant even buy anymore. Acid that had literally been sitting on the printers shelves for the last twenty years. Acid that drove the printers mad and their wives into the arms of corrupt, gun-running Mafiosi from Leamington Spa.
After lots of attempts to get the acid to bite the way we need it to we start to print

When we print we have to rub the ink over the plate. Then get rid of all the ink from the plate, labouriously wiping it down with tissue, then newspaper, then by hand

After that, we take the paper out of the water. By now the soaked 400grm paper weighs about the same weight as a baby elephant seal and takes eight grown men to carry it across the room. (Three of those men ended up in A&E.)
The eight men then place the paper on the plate and put it through the etching press.

Half the time we get it out the other end find out the image isnt quite up to Mikes foolishly exacting standards and have to throw it away, while Mike stands at the back of the room, quietly weeping over seventeen different calculators.

We repeat this process as many times as we have to before getting an edition The prints then have to be blotted three times over three days so the paper doesnt cockle as the water dries and thus ruining even more of these damned prints.

Then we collect them and ferry them to D*Face who painstakingly colours each individual print. Thats probably another long, drawn out process, but quite frankly were just happy to have them out of our sight and dont really want to hear about that.

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

well as i'm looking at one on the wall i'll skip reading that thanks...!

[bullet]

maybe you should have more knowledge about your stuff

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

Jul 23, 2008 23:03:41 GMT 1 bullet said:

maybe you should have more knowledge about your stuff

you what?!

i read that at the time it came out you tool, go unwrap yours and have a look. THE WATERCOLOUR IS A WASH NOT COLOURED IN SKULLS.

i have plenty of knowledge about what i own thanks, do not be condescending with me.

[Guest]

Jul 22, 2008 22:31:46 GMT 1 bullet said:

its a watercolour handfinishing.

one of dfaces more grown up pieces

it says on the BRP site that each skull is individually painted

how much was the print at cost

[bullet]

im not sure, must have been around £200. Looks like alot of work went into it though

[bullet]

Jul 23, 2008 23:08:03 GMT 1 iwouldfollow youanywhere said:

Jul 23, 2008 23:03:41 GMT 1 bullet said:

maybe you should have more knowledge about your stuff

you what?!

i read that at the time it came out you tool, go unwrap yours and have a look. THE WATERCOLOUR IS A WASH NOT COLOURED IN SKULLS.

i have plenty of knowledge about what i own thanks, do not be condescending with me.

im not condescending you, thats just what it says on the BRP and they printed them so they will know what the process was.

dont condescend me.

[Cocteau 101]

But they didn't do the Dface bit according to the press release - duh!

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

Jul 23, 2008 23:12:37 GMT 1 @ronhill said:

how much was the print at cost

£350

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

Jul 23, 2008 23:20:01 GMT 1 bullet said:

Jul 23, 2008 23:08:03 GMT 1 iwouldfollow youanywhere said:

you what?!

i read that at the time it came out you tool, go unwrap yours and have a look. THE WATERCOLOUR IS A WASH NOT COLOURED IN SKULLS.

i have plenty of knowledge about what i own thanks, do not be condescending with me.

im not condescending you, thats just what it says on the BRP and they printed them so they will know what the process was.

dont condescend me.

no-where does it say that each skull is handpainted. Only that he painted each print by hand, which is true.

sometimes the way you try to present your opinion as solid fact is laughable

[bullet]

the skulls are painted are they not?

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

Jul 23, 2008 23:25:21 GMT 1 bullet said:

the skulls are painted are they not?

i'll say it again.

the skulls are coloured as a watercolour WASH has been done over the ETCHING.