[Oliver Garland]

I know theres a Dface forum but I wanted a broader opinion than just his fans. What does everyone think of his stuff? Iv seen some things I like, but alot I dont. Your thoughts?

[Oliver Garland]

Anyone think he has the potential to do BIG things? Or do you think he will just be someone affiliated with the whole street art movement?

[Daniel Silk]

ollieollieollie said:

I know theres a Dface forum but I wanted a broader opinion than just his fans. What does everyone think of his stuff? Iv seen some things I like, but alot I dont. Your thoughts?

I really think he has been developing his style over the last couple of years, but Im sure he has a really bright future ;D certainly one to watch

[mose]

ollieollieollie said:

think he will just be someone affiliated with the whole street art movement?

pretty much sums up my opinion on him. From what I've seen of his career, he will be an artist in the crowd, not one at the forefront and not one that will be able to escape the black hole that will be created when people get violently sick of "big, bad, oil-eating American corporations dropping dirty, environmentally-unfriendly bombs and grenades aimed at indigenous peoples led into battle by Che and the ghost of Cobain as screened by Warhol" vibe. It gets very, very tired after a while.

[Oliver Garland]

....couldnt have been put better....

[Oliver Garland]

Do you think people will get sick of the whole politically, enviromentally etc induced work?

[Oliver Garland]

it seems alot of the new street art is tackling that area

[numusic]

mose said:

ollieollieollie said:

think he will just be someone affiliated with the whole street art movement?

pretty much sums up my opinion on him. From what I've seen of his career, he will be an artist in the crowd, not one at the forefront and not one that will be able to escape the black hole that will be created when people get violently sick of "big, bad, oil-eating American corporations dropping dirty, environmentally-unfriendly bombs and grenades aimed at indigenous peoples led into battle by Che and the ghost of Cobain as screened by Warhol" vibe. It gets very, very tired after a while.

yeah, well.. when you f**kers stop dropping the bombs, we'll stop making the art. Until then, *deal with it.

* ouch, that sounded a bit harsh didn't it. Ah well. Sorry Mose..but Faile do a nice line in Butterfly girls and fluffy rabbits, they look killer next to a starving african begger and a napalmed kid

[numusic]

ollieollieollie said:

Do you think people will get sick of the whole politically, enviromentally etc induced work?

Nope, have a look through history, 90% of the works hanging in museums are based on politics. Either directly, sponsored by the church or indirectly, wealthy industrialist patrons. The work being produced today simply reflects peoples concerns and interests. When they stop bombing and raping the planet, I'm sure we'll see pastoral landscapes and still lifes making a comeback

[Oliver Garland]

Yeah no I agree, I wont get sick of it, just thought wot people thought. Geuss its just portraying our contemporary world, just as the impressionists were celebrating there contemporary world, absinthe and moulan rouge.... What ever happened to those days..

[ROLLINS]

I'm all in favour of the D man!!

I think he's as humourous as Banksy and I think most of his images are on par.

I hate to disagree, but - I think he's doing big things at the mo and STILL painting on the street - unlike some

[catfelix69]

D*face rocks mutherfuckers

[stuey09]

numusic said:

ollieollieollie said:

Do you think people will get sick of the whole politically, enviromentally etc induced work?

When they stop bombing and raping the planet, I'm sure we'll see pastoral landscapes and still lifes making a comeback

Pastoral landscapes . That's the worst argument I've heard yet for the cessation of hostilities

[jboy]

The original post makes d* sound like he's just started.

D* has been around for years and collaborated with some of the biggest names in the art world. His prints sell out faster than a speeding bullet, people que for hours to get his stuff, the market on his prints has jumped sharply recently and he has got loads of exhibitions coming up.

I dont think there is anything else to say, except get his stuff now while you can and watch it in the next year when america gets hold of it all

J

[numusic]

stuey09 said:

numusic said:

When they stop bombing and raping the planet, I'm sure we'll see pastoral landscapes and still lifes making a comeback

Pastoral landscapes . That's the worst argument I've heard yet for the cessation of hostilities

ha, good point ! keep those bombs coming ya yanky bastards

[ROLLINS]

There's A LOT of these "new" artists that won't stand the test of time. ( I'm not going to name them)

But - Dface will definately be knocking around for some time.

I did hear he was working on some TV stuff.

[numusic]

ollieollieollie said:

Yeah no I agree, I wont get sick of it, just thought wot people thought. Geuss its just portraying our contemporary world, just as the impressionists were celebrating there contemporary world, absinthe and moulan rouge.... What ever happened to those days..

ahhh, the good old days ;D

[Oliver Garland]

Im sure its still around, jus gotta kno where its hidding!

[stuey09]

I reckon he's knocked out some great work. Cliche is one of my favourites. The detail is superb, even my wife likes it. It will be interesting to see what he produces next.

[barry cilit]

IMO,
his "work" is too try hard and trying to be pollitical just for the sake of trying to follow in Banksy's shadow.He tried the cutesy cartoon with drippy paint, He's fighting the corporations with! and taking the piss out of dead celebraties!
Just checked his website, bookcases, wallets and designer pillows?!
I always think of him as the Banksy for 12 years olds.
Infact I don't even know why I'm bothering to type so much about him!
cringeworthy on a good day, cliched on a bad day

IMO

[mose]

ollieollieollie said:

Do you think people will get sick of the whole politically, enviromentally etc induced work?

fatigued is probably the best word...and yes, i feel people will get badly fatigued by all this Iraq-related art, cliches(che, grenades, etc.), the world-is-melting, etc.

after a while, it becomes less and less moving and more and more a painful memory that most want forgotten, not on their walls.

The days of this type of art getting prime gallery slots, selling expensive prints, etc. are numbered. When they end, the limelight will end for many of the current artists focused on here. There was a great line I read in a book yesterday, talking about the NYC Gallery meltdown of the late 1980's/early 1990's....it said something like, "of all the 1000 artists who put on important gallery shows in the 1980's, maybe 15 have a secondary market these days." It is a different art world these days, especially with the internet and all, but some of the old rules still apply.

[jboy]

richardface said:

IMO,
his "work" is too try hard and trying to be pollitical just for the sake of trying to follow in Banksy's shadow.He tried the cutesy cartoon with drippy paint, He's fighting the corporations with! and taking the piss out of dead celebraties!
Just checked his website, bookcases, wallets and designer pillows?!
I always think of him as the Banksy for 12 years olds.
Infact I don't even know why I'm bothering to type so much about him!
cringeworthy on a good day, cliched on a bad day

IMO

If you knew about the TV stuff coming up you may not be saying that so much.

One of the things which has been confirmed by D* is that Ewan McGregor has a pair of d*face wings on his BMW badge on his bike travelling to South Africa for tv. Just that alone will get loads of attention. Plus i think D* is getting some celeb collectors as well by the looks of things.

By the way, ewan mcgregor is winning the facelift contest.

You cant compare everyone to banksy, its silly to do that. Banksy is getting slightly tedious at the moment - even though we are on the banksy forum - not many people really talk about him much.

[barry cilit]

oh ok!!!
If Ewan has got some wings on his bike then it must be deemed as credible art!!
PURLEESE!!
don't get me wrong I'm sure that there are 1000's of D* prints with happy homes on teenage boys's bedroom walls, but alas I'm a grown man in my mid 30's with a slightly more refined taste for the walls of my home.

[numusic]

mose said:

ollieollieollie said:

Do you think people will get sick of the whole politically, enviromentally etc induced work?

fatigued is probably the best word...and yes, i feel people will get badly fatigued by all this Iraq-related art, cliches(che, grenades, etc.), the world-is-melting, etc.

after a while, it becomes less and less moving and more and more a painful memory that most want forgotten, not on their walls.

The days of this type of art getting prime gallery slots, selling expensive prints, etc. are numbered. When they end, the limelight will end for many of the current artists focused on here. There was a great line I read in a book yesterday, talking about the NYC Gallery meltdown of the late 1980's/early 1990's....it said something like, "of all the 1000 artists who put on important gallery shows in the 1980's, maybe 15 have a secondary market these days." It is a different art world these days, especially with the internet and all, but some of the old rules still apply.

Nah, I'd say it's completely different these days. The artists featured here go back to maybe 91/92..Twist, Mcgee, Spike Jonze, Ed templeton, The mission school, the mistakists.. etc etc.. it's got it's own history and controls it's own means of production. It's so tied into pop culture, fashion, vinyl, toys, clothing lines, stickers, skateboards.. the works. People learned a lot from the 80s, Haring and Futura 2000 etc.. This is a new generation who control what and when they show and they're not affraid of breaking boundaries..

The 80's was just a bunch of traditional gallery knobs sticking graffiti onto canvas and into swanky galleries to sell to monied clients..the work didn't work.. on trains it's cool, it has context.. on canvas.. well. It's just a name..(as someone once said). The new school work is so much more diverse and isn't affraid of taking on the gallery space with whatever it takes.. installations, sculpture, performance, paintings, music, drawing, photography, video.. the lot.

This second wave with Faile, Bast, Swoon, Fairey, Banksy etc.. it's just the beginning. A new generation pciking up where Beautiful Losers left off. It's here to stay..It's not even a scene or a movement. It just is.

Long live the new ism.. Vandal'ism ;D ;D ;D

[stuey09]

richardface said:

oh ok!!!
If Ewan has got some wings on his bike then it must be deemed as credible art!!
PURLEESE!!
don't get me wrong I'm sure that there are 1000's of D* prints with happy homes on teenage boys's bedroom walls, but alas I'm a grown man in my mid 30's with a slightly more refined taste for the walls of my home.

Am I to take it then, that to have a dface on my walls means that I do not have 'refined taste' Just wondering. I'm now interested to know what art would pass the test of being refined?

[numusic]

richardface said:

oh ok!!!
If Ewan has got some wings on his bike then it must be deemed as credible art!!
PURLEESE!!
don't get me wrong I'm sure that there are 1000's of D* prints with happy homes on teenage boys's bedroom walls, but alas I'm a grown man in my mid 30's with a slightly more refined taste for the walls of my home.

refined taste..LOL ;D

[Ron Goldsurfer]

Dface is good and I am sorry to admit that I don´t own a single piece made by him. If there was any justice in this world someone would give me a print for free. Dface, are you reading this?! ;-)

[numusic]

stuey09 said:

richardface said:

oh ok!!!
If Ewan has got some wings on his bike then it must be deemed as credible art!!
PURLEESE!!
don't get me wrong I'm sure that there are 1000's of D* prints with happy homes on teenage boys's bedroom walls, but alas I'm a grown man in my mid 30's with a slightly more refined taste for the walls of my home.

Am I to take it then, that to have a dface on my walls means that I do not have 'refined taste' Just wondering. I'm now interested to know what art would pass the test of being refined?

told ya, it's the return of the bloody pastel pastorels.. turn on the news... the war is over ! ;D

[stuey09]

Yay. Bring out Sausageboonwee's Grannies Haywain I could stretch to Turner though

[Oliver Garland]

Does anyone knowhow much his originals sell from galleries from? Im starting to get serious bout this guym looked at more stuff, is quite good...