[snausages]

Oct 7, 2008 13:15:08 GMT 1 @ricosg11 said:

Bidder 8 had 100% positive feedback of 29 and has been a ebay member since 2003.

Sorry if I was wrong but according to ebay it says 0% positive

[snausages]

Oct 7, 2008 14:13:58 GMT 1 nattymatt said:

also to that sausages bloke...thats what dictates the price of anything at auction.....how many people want it....

Well congratulations.

But if you were the bidder it's interesting to know that since the other guy'd no longer be in the bidding for one of these prints and another came up it would sell for £1140 not over £3000. And I still find it odd that a 'collector' would decide to make his first purchase on ebay be a very expensive Parla print, an artist who usually isn't a 'gateway' drug into collecting.

I still see fishy all over this and even if not a seller so many other Parla fanatics seemed to have such a strong and vested interest in making sure that this print sold for a lot of money. I'll still never know what happened, no matter what I read on an internet forum. I'll just leave it at that.

[pfffffffffft]

Snausages, I think I speak for many of us. We'd all appreciate it if you'd go and read and especially go and comment on another board.

Please pick up your golden poop award on your way out.

[snausages]

Long time no see
So have you seen a shrink yet about your obsessive stalking tendencies?

[pfffffffffft]

Oct 7, 2008 15:55:52 GMT 1 @snausages said:

Long time no see
So have you seen a shrink yet about your obsessive stalking tendencies?

I was going to ask you if you've seen a shrink yet about your need to argue with everyone down to the mailman.

I commented on this thread a few pages back, seems it's you stalking me.

Please collect your award when you delete your account.

[snausages]

Uh, I didn't say anything to or about you. And yet again you are replying to and insulting me. This comes after you've said you'll hunt me down 'at every turn' or some nonsense like that. Uh, hello, that's psycho talk.

[pfffffffffft]

Oct 7, 2008 16:20:03 GMT 1 @snausages said:

Uh, I didn't say anything to or about you. And yet again you are replying to and insulting me. This comes after you've said you'll hunt me down 'at every turn' or some nonsense like that. Uh, hello, that's psycho talk.

[suburbangangstar]

AS BULL$hit OF AN AUCTION AS BULL$hit GETS. OF COURSE YOU ALWAYS HAVE YOUR SLEW OF COMMENTS TO HYPE THEIR OWN $$$ INTERESTS. COMMON SENSE NOBODY IS EVEN PAYING HALF OF WHAT THAT "SOLD" FOR. I DONT CARE WHO KNOWS YOU ON THIS FORUM BUT YOURE A DOUCHE FOR THAT BULL$hit SHILLED AUCTION.

[nattymatt]

super sausage...it seems that you get right up everybodys nose........
I AM bidder 8, i wanted that print but it got too expensive because the winner was prepared to pay more than me.
Right now, i'm glad i lost cos i have been offered the same for less money since it finished....( supply and demand)
You know nothing about me....i'm not a huge collector, but i have cash lying around with which to speculate....thats all mate.
As for ebay......i bought a jumper from m+s, and a couple of spare parts for my vespa...Now i live in asia and haven't bought owt off ebay for 2 or 3 years....
thats prob why my rating is quite low
So it would seem that once again your are proving yourself to be a bit of a silly sausage

[nattymatt]

and suburbangangstar......you say no one is paying half that money....but someone just did!!!!!!!
that means people want his work....and if people want his work then it become expensive.....
Lets see what happens at the auctions next week......and if you can find me an original PARLA ..PM me ..I'm interested!!!!

[RBK]

Oct 7, 2008 17:32:03 GMT 1 nattymatt said:

and if you can find me an original PARLA ..PM me ..I'm interested!!!!

Get in line!

[nattymatt]

exactly!!!!!
more chance of getting sense from a sausage

[suburbangangstar]

SO NATTY IF YOURE REALLY THAT DUMB WHAT CAN I SAY? FAKE AUCTION TO CREATE AN ARTIFICIAL PRICE, "SOMEBODY ELSE" OFFERS YOU ONE CHEAPER THAN THE B$ ONE AND THE SUCKER THINKS HES GETTING A GOOD DEAL. IF THIS IS YOU THEN AS I SAID WHAT CAN I SAY? OR MAYBE YOURE JUST A "FRIEND" OF THE SELLER? WHATEVER THE CASE THE LAST LEGIT BID WAS FOR THE 1000gbp. ANY NON BIASED FOLLOWER OF THIS SCENE KNOWS - given that he has half a brain.

[nattymatt]

wow....maybe i am that naive..
I wanted to buy that print, and it took me up to £2800. Your right, it could be fixed but if so i'm bloody glad i didn't win.
What is fact though is that PARLA is V V V hard to come by. The closest i have come is this ebay auction....if you think it's overpriced ..well thats up to you.
My mates thought my orignal BANKSY canvas i bought 7 years ago was overpriced at 2k.......who's dumb....
thats the way it goes ....
I was willing to pay 3k for that print cos i reckon it could be a worth a few quid in a few years, but if its not then in doesn't matter cos i got a PARLA.....
right now i will be watching those auctions next week and hopefully i can p,p,p,p,p, pick up a PARLA.

[snausages]

Oct 7, 2008 17:27:08 GMT 1 nattymatt said:

I AM bidder 8, i wanted that print but it got too expensive because the winner was prepared to pay more than me.

What confuses me is that you aren't concerned about it all yourself. If it weren't for some mysterious zero feedback winner you would have been able to buy the print at £1200 and save yourself £1800.

...this zero feedback bidder with no ebay experience who also allegedly is going to show up in new york carrying around over $6000 cash to buy a small parla print.

Look I'm sorry if this is all legit but if you step back and look at it there are a number of questionable circumstances around this auction that raise quite a bit of suspicion. Perhaps it is coincidence. My apologies if so.

Right now, i'm glad i lost cos i have been offered the same for less money since it finished....( supply and demand)

No sh*t you've been offered another print. If I had one of these prints I'd hound you non stop until I got that £3000 out of you too.

I'm not attacking you mate. But don't you worry that now that this timjohn(0) is out of the market for one of these that the value would probably be much lower?

[ricosg11]

snausages - you truly are a miserable person. You question my integrity, try to sabotage the sale by injecting so much negativity, and come up with conspiracy theories regarding the auction. I made a .99 auction and let the market decide where it went. There are no 'questionable circumstances' as you refer to. It's just you spoting off with absolutely no facts. I believe the buyer to be legit as I've had multiple contact with him. In the rare case he is not legit, I will either:

- keep my print
- auction it again
- or do a deal with the 2nd highest bidder

Youre welcome.

[snausages]

Sorry Rico, but a zero feedback bidder bidding a print (whose value is under intense scrutiny) to astronomical heights is not a 'conspiracy theory' it's a questionable situation plain and simple. And I'm not the only one who has expressed this concern.

Call me what you want, as I said before if it's all legit my apologies. Plus I'm not necessarily implying you did it but possibly a third party with ulterior motives? (Such as the person who soon after the auction offered natty a print) And again maybe timjohn(0) is very real and sincere?

But if you don't like such public scrutiny the answer is simple. Do your dealings in private.

And if you are going to meet this person for real, be careful and good luck.

[suburbangangstar]

ITS SO OBVIOUSLY B$ IS WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE COMMENTING BASED ON YALL SELF INTERE$T A BIG FFFFF UUUU! ESP YOU HEAVYCONSUMER, I SPEAK OUT AGAINST SLEAZY TACTICS AND ALL YOU DO IS SOME WHINY BUTT KISSING FOR A TRANSPARENT FLIPPING FORUM MEMBER

[skanky]

Snausages just give it a rest you are attacking someone's integrity. If you are not doing that then you are going around telling everyone they don't know what they are doing. Is this really necessary ? You seem like an intelligent bloke but you are intent on winding everyone up. I am sure you will come back with some comment saying that you think you are doing the right thing but in this instance you have no proof what so ever. Why not try and give some positive input for a change ?

[alsbabar]

Oct 7, 2008 23:20:03 GMT 1 skanky said:

Snausages just give it a rest you are attacking someone's integrity. If you are not doing that then you are going around telling everyone they don't know what they are doing. Is this really necessary ? You seem like an intelligent bloke but you are intent on winding everyone up. I am sure you will come back with some comment saying that you think you are doing the right thing but in this instance you have no proof what so ever. Why not try and give some positive input for a change ?

he cant skanky, he is still pissed off with the Lying and Turnedbullshit results - his bits didnt sell

[snausages]

Sorry Skank, it wasn't really my intention to get personal or attack anyone specific here. And unlike others ('al's bladder' just for one example ) I think my posts have been for the most part civilized and straightforward about my concerns.

Anyway, I said something positive just last night! I think the Kaws show was pretty tight (even though I personally don't want a pic of spongebob or papa smurf on my wall) I still think the show was pretty sweet and I'm not even a big Kaws fan.

[pfffffffffft]

Oct 7, 2008 23:50:41 GMT 1 @snausages said:

Sorry Skank, it wasn't my intention to get personal or attack anyone specific here.
And unlike others ('al's bladder' just for one example ) I think my posts have been for the most part civilized and straightforward.

Anyway, I said something positive just last night! I think the Kaws show was pretty tight (even though I personally don't want a pic of spongebob or papa smurf on my wall) I still think the show was pretty sweet and I'm not even a big Kaws fan.

[alsbabar]

[ricosg11]

listen I understand where youre coming from. I am very skeptical about ebay myself, but I dont sell things often which is clear from my feedback, and when I do the buyers are always satisfied which is also very clear from my feedback. With only 20 of these floating around I doubt highly that there is much vested interest, and anyone with his paintings could give a shit what these prints sell for. They know how special what they have is, and that print sales in no way affect high end originals.

What bothers me, is that people take what you say at face value and dont dig for themselves ( a major problem across every aspect of this very forum), and then look at me like some cheating, lying, flipper soley here to make money, when in reality that couldnt be further from the truth.

So while I can appreciate your concern, maybe a friendly pm first would be appropriate, instead of a tar and feathering.

[ricosg11]

as my favorite WK member would say kisses....

[snausages]

Oct 8, 2008 0:25:33 GMT 1 @ricosg11 said:

So while I can appreciate your concern, maybe a friendly pm first would be appropriate, instead of a tar and feathering.

I see your point and will PM to get clearer information in the future but at the same time if possibly questionable things do arise again that may or may not cost people on the forum money I think it's fair to raise those issues publicly. Sorry if you feel it was a tar and feathering.




On another note, can someone put the children here to bed

[ricosg11]

fair enough.

[pfffffffffft]

Oct 8, 2008 0:42:00 GMT 1 @snausages said:

Oct 8, 2008 0:25:33 GMT 1 @ricosg11 said:

So while I can appreciate your concern, maybe a friendly pm first would be appropriate, instead of a tar and feathering.

I see your point and will PM to get clearer information in the future but at the same time if possibly questionable things do arise again that may or may not cost people on the forum money I think it's fair to raise those issues publicly. Sorry if you feel it was a tar and feathering.




On another note, can someone put the children here to bed

Here you go snausages, I would bet you're all tuckered out from fighting all day cranky thing...go on to bed.

[nattymatt]

This 0 feedback bidder was the winner....right? TimJohn
He put a huge max bid on which i had to beat....he didn't have any idea what i was gonna bid up to and i had no idea how high his max bid was untill i tried to beat it.
It didn't go up in stages ...when i put a bid on at about £1100, his max bid was already at £2700. I could have walked away and all this would never of happened , but i wante3d to buy it for myself..
Like i said b4, i'm happy i didn't win it now as it looks like it could be too much, especially with others around.
But the winner obviously wanted it so bad that he put a huge max bid in....
I really thought this print was gonna be a real battle to win and no way did i think i would have to beat such a high max bid so early...sure with 5 mins left...but not 6 hrs left in the auction.
the people with other prints have offered me it at the same price as the winning bid...but no way now.
Lets see what happens at the auctions...if i can pick one up cheaper great....
If someone bid this auction up , they did it against me....If i hadn't tried to buy this print then it would probably have sold for £1200 and their "upbidding" wouldn't have worked
But i say again.....thats the whole point of an auction.

[ricosg11]

guy was a no show, waited for a half hour at the moma. Need a quick sale. 2800gbp shipping inc. Pm me