[skelly]

May 30, 2008 9:22:05 GMT 1 Cocteau 101 said:

I own this and to be honest wouldn't contemplate selling it for less than £100k. They will only become scarcer as Parla becomes a 21st century heavyweight in the contemporary art world.

This is one of my favorite Parla's...I have stared at it on my computer screen in my iphoto library many a time. It's nice to hear a forum member owns it....the best piece I know in any forum members collection possibly?

[sahoria]

hey,

smallbylo - thank you for the link to the magazine... think will look very nice framed...!

cocteau101 - like everyone else love your parla art piece...truly stunning and each time you
look i am sure you have different opinion on it, on the meaning etc... i know would sit there for hours and go into world of my own... will have to wait for the next show and hope lucky enough to have the opportunity to see jose parla work in person....off topic but queen of tarts is stunning also....

can i ask when did you get this art piece? what is it called also? very happy for you and hope sometime towards the end of the year will be lucky to say own art piece by jose parla... is it very big also?...s

[felix]

Sorry to be ignorant - like Parla, but isn't Jackson Pollock the real deal?

[felix]

Quick hindsight - that was probably a ridiculous comment ;D

[graeme501]

i dunno if this will cause a positive or negative reaction

jackson pollock is possibly the worst and most over-hyped artist of all time

[mose]

May 31, 2008 20:05:25 GMT 1 felix said:

Sorry to be ignorant - like Parla, but isn't Jackson Pollock the real deal?

personally, I've always seen more of a progression from Cy Twombly's work of the 1970's + Gysin's work, than from Pollock's. I believe it has to do with the linguistic content of Twombly, Gysin and Parla which I find lacking in Pollock(making Pollock far less interesting for me).

[sahoria]

Like pollock art pieces, actually like them alot but just when i look at jose parla artwork it just feels to me so fresh... if i had a choice out of the two would choose jose parla... that is my opinion and sure others will think differently... just like rawness of his images , truth wouldnt complain to have either hanging up on my walls...s

[bobbymeachamjr]

no disrespect but I have now seen delusion at its highest level!

[guest2]

May 31, 2008 20:46:51 GMT 1 bobbymeachamjr said:

no disrespect but I have now seen delusion at its highest level!

Finacially I'd take the pollock, what would I prefer to hang on my bedroom wall and look at every day? My Parla, as it does

[jam]

May 31, 2008 20:23:32 GMT 1 mose said:

personally, I've always seen more of a progression from Cy Twombly's work of the 1970's + Gysin's work, than from Pollock's. I believe it has to do with the linguistic content of Twombly, Gysin and Parla which I find lacking in Pollock(making Pollock far less interesting for me).

I agree with the comparison of Parla to Twombly, spot on really. That said, I cannot compare the work of either to a Jackson Pollock. Experiencing a Pollock work in person is one of the few art pieces able to leave me breathless with an instant recognition of something more to life, beyond aesthetic appreciation or intellectual fascination. A Pollock provides a visceral, emotionally intense appreciation that I have not found in many other abstract pieces, aside from perhaps a Rothko.

[graeme501]

May 31, 2008 20:46:51 GMT 1 bobbymeachamjr said:

no disrespect but I have now seen delusion at its highest level!

are u talking on an artistic level or financial level ?

[mose]

May 31, 2008 21:10:43 GMT 1 jam said:

provides a visceral, emotionally intense appreciation

that high is unlike any other. when an artwork just owns you, toys with your mind and emotions, and hooks you for life.

[Winter]

My Eelus Shat-at does that!

[sahoria]

everyones opinion will be different... i would love both but out of choice - parla would be something i could find myself be more atuned too...never seen pollock art pieces in person neither so making assumption from pictures of artworks that i have seen...

...for me there is something visually strking in parla art pieces, something what seems to hold alot of emotion... he does draw influences from others but for me in this style of expressionism i think he invites the viewer to sink into his art pieces and because it is so hard to understand viewers dont know whether to stand back and appreciate or go closer to be more absorbed in the art piece... to get the viewer to do both things is something that draws me to his work...that is just my opinion and agree others will think differently...

...something what i can view and feel connected too is something what is important to me and from pictures i have seen parla work does that for me....s

[guest2]

May 31, 2008 21:25:07 GMT 1 @sahoria said:

everyones opinion will be different... i would love both but out of choice - parla would be something i could find myself be more atuned too...never seen pollock art pieces in person neither so making assumption from pictures of artworks that i have seen...

...for me there is something visually strking in parla art pieces, something what seems to hold alot of emotion... he does draw influences from others but for me in this style of expressionism i think he invites the viewer to sink into his art pieces and because it is so hard to understand viewers dont know whether to stand back and appreciate or go closer to be more absorbed in the art piece... to get the viewer to do both things is something that draws me to his work...that is just my opinion and agree others will think differently...

...something what i can view and feel connected too is something what is important to me and from pictures i have seen parla work does that for me....s

Dude, I need to learn all that lingo! I just like the look of things! ;D ;D ;D

[daisy]

Why is Pollock a household name? He did something different and Jose has taken inspiration from it. That's cool init?

[sahoria]

lol... me too!

but then as mose written sometimes there is an artist / art piece that just is like a fresh of breath air....something that for reasons unknown your just drawn too... jose / keyes and others do that for me....lol..s

[guest2]

May 31, 2008 21:33:50 GMT 1 @sahoria said:

lol... me too!

but then as mose written sometimes there is an artist / art piece that just is like a fresh of breath air....something that for reasons unknown your just drawn too... jose / keyes and others do that for me....lol..s

[Cocteau 101]

There have been a few threads in the past on the Parla / Pollock comparison, I love both and also Twombly. Geniuses all!

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

May 31, 2008 21:10:43 GMT 1 jam said:

May 31, 2008 20:23:32 GMT 1 mose said:

personally, I've always seen more of a progression from Cy Twombly's work of the 1970's + Gysin's work, than from Pollock's. I believe it has to do with the linguistic content of Twombly, Gysin and Parla which I find lacking in Pollock(making Pollock far less interesting for me).

I agree with the comparison of Parla to Twombly, spot on really. That said, I cannot compare the work of either to a Jackson Pollock. Experiencing a Pollock work in person is one of the few art pieces able to leave me breathless with an instant recognition of something more to life, beyond aesthetic appreciation or intellectual fascination. A Pollock provides a visceral, emotionally intense appreciation that I have not found in many other abstract pieces, aside from perhaps a Rothko.

rothko canvases in themselves are extremely dull, it's the space/environment/groupings where they are hung that gives them any impact, and to me certainly aren't "emotionally intense"

parlas work is intriuging, textured and complex and certainly beautiful but let's not get carried away that there is that much depth of meaning there....

[mose]

May 31, 2008 23:21:03 GMT 1 iwouldfollow youanywhere said:

parlas work is intriuging, textured and complex and certainly beautiful but let's not get carried away that there is that much depth of meaning there....

I agree with the former viewpoint, and vehemently disagree with the latter viewpoint.

1. Jose's work has substantial personal depth for him as an artist, as much of it serves as a journal. Please read this post by almoran:

Jan 18, 2008 17:12:07 GMT 1 almoran said:

Here's the pics I promised yesterday. This painting is titled "Brothers Back 2 Back". It was done in 2006. Measures 6 feet x 6 feet mixed media on canvas. The painting tells the story of Parla and his brother growing up in the 80's in Miami. All of the writing are stories from his memories of those days. The writing on the first few layers are his earlier memories which are a bit cloudy. Some of the details have been forgotten with time. This is illustrated by the darker spots within the writing. These "holes" are meant to symbolize the incomplete memories.

The writing on each subsequent layer becomes more prominent as the stories become clearer to him. The top layer are stories which he remembers with certainty. They represent the experiences which are still vivid in his memory. It's impossible to tell here (or in person) but the whole canvas is lined with posters of a documentary film named Cocaine Cowboys (on the very first layer). This documentary is about the drug days in Miami during the 80's Miami Vice days. He put the posters in there to symbolize that he was unaware of all of the murders and drug dealing going on in his innocent childhood while he and his brother were growing up in Miami and writing on walls and getting into trouble. The same way we are unaware that the posters are there in this painting.

Here's the painting along with some macro shots of it. You can see the depth of the piece within the macros.

2. Jose's work very much requires, and depends on, the viewer. In that way, it very much illustrates Duchamp's quote:

"The creative act is not performed by the artist alone; the spectator brings the work in contact with the external world by deciphering and interpreting its inner qualifications and thus adds his contribution to the creative act."

This is where I find so much connection and depth in how I view Parla's work, above and beyond the artist's own conscious intentions(like those outlined by Al Moran). If you turn to a copy of Parla's book Cityscapes, Manon Slome states, “Parla is fascinated with how the city constructs itself and functions as a palimpsest, upon which the experiences of those who pass through are materially inscribed on decaying walls.” Personally, I view Parla's work a bit differently. Echoing Slome’s words, I am “fascinated with how we construct ourselves and how we function as palimpsests, upon which the experiences with others who pass through are inscribed on our decaying lives.” To me, the walls that Parla presents are a visible manifestation of what lies beneath our surfaces – the layers of experience, how others twist and turn through our lives, what remains in their wake(both visible and not), our words and the words of others, and the internal conflicts we have to trace through, like lines of Parla's calligraphy, before our resolution.

Parla's work does not merely show the walls, does not merely show writers/taggers long past, doesn't just show memories of Parla's own life. If you give it the chance, Parla's work acts as a mirror. It shows us.

[sahoria]

beautiful post enjoyed reading....s

[andyctree]

www.ruggedart.com/ease.html

[Heavyconsumer]

Jun 1, 2008 0:04:51 GMT 1 @sahoria said:

beautiful post enjoyed reading....s

Me too, quality post Mose! I would not have been able to express it nearly as well myself, but on the 2 main Issues raised by iwouldfollowyouanywhere, I strongly agree with his/her point, regarding Rothko canvases and strongly disagree that Parla's work lacks depth of meaning.

Regarding my own tastes and disregarding the financial aspect, I would not want a Pollock on my living room wall more than I would like a Parla. Shocking as that may be to some here. Call me ignorant, foolish or blind if you like, but I'd prefer to pass my time getting lost in a laberynth that is a Parla canvas, if I had the means to own one. When it comes to abstract art, I can't see how any man's taste or opinion can make him "deluded". It's like saying there's a right way to enjoy art and a wrong way... If that's the case, why the forum as opinions must all be invalid?!

[onemandown72]

Jun 1, 2008 6:15:45 GMT 1 Heavyconsumer said:

Jun 1, 2008 0:04:51 GMT 1 @sahoria said:

beautiful post enjoyed reading....s

Me too, quality post Mose! I would not have been able to express it nearly as well myself, but on the 2 main Issues raised by iwouldfollowyouanywhere, I strongly agree with his/her point, regarding Rothko canvases and strongly disagree that Parla's work lacks depth of meaning.

Regarding my own tastes and disregarding the financial aspect, I would not want a Pollock on my living room wall more than I would like a Parla. Shocking as that may be to some here. Call me ignorant, foolish or blind if you like, but I'd prefer to pass my time getting lost in a laberynth that is a Parla canvas, if I had the means to own one. When it comes to abstract art, I can't see how any man's taste or opinion can make him "deluded". It's like saying there's a right way to enjoy art and a wrong way... If that's the case, why the forum as opinions must all be invalid?!

For me , if I had the choice I'd rather have a Parla than a Pollack - I can relate to it more as I feel closer to Parla in terms of influences & age. Whilst I can stare at Pollack for hours I feel more connected to Parla in where he comes from (street art) and love the fact that he has made the successful transition from graffitti to incredible art that has improved by being created off the street.
Great thread as well

[artstylee]

I like him alot more now that I saw that Miami EASE Work.

I can respect his loose scribing style on his canvases more, because I know now that he can also do Large Intricate Piecings.

A True B Boy with that breakdancing as well.

Great!!!


PS. Excellent Purchase "COCTEAU101" That piece is Amazing!!!!

[artstylee]

"For me , if I had the choice I'd rather have a Parla than a Pollack" - I can relate to it more as I feel closer to Parla in terms of influences & age. Whilst I can stare at Pollack for hours I feel more connected to Parla in where he comes from (street art) and love the fact that he has made the successful transition from graffitti to incredible art that has improved by being created off the street.
Great thread as well[/quote] - by onemandown




Since Pollock is the OG and it's a million+ each you'd have to want the pollock. And if you've seen original pollock's in museums in the flesh you'll notice that he also mastered creating effects laying one drip down with a matte/flat finish and incorporating high gloss drips in the same piece.

A piece in a book that seems to be just black drip lines on a white canvas, in person, in a museum, actaully shimmers and changes as you walk around it. Pretty special and I see why these business CEO moguls and the richest people in the world appreciate this type of art. Because it's very difficult to execute in a way that is balanced and works well visually.

But maybee parla is the new pollock and he's is taking that style to the next level by incorporating traditional graffitti methods in a fine art context. Progressing the artform and pushing the boundries. that's why you've gotta love parla.

[Rude Copper]

May 31, 2008 20:54:11 GMT 1 guest2 said:

May 31, 2008 20:46:51 GMT 1 bobbymeachamjr said:

no disrespect but I have now seen delusion at its highest level!

Finacially I'd take the pollock, what would I prefer to hang on my bedroom wall and look at every day? My Parla, as it does

the best 2x2 i've seen, class piece frankie

[onemandown72]

I've just been re-reading memory Documents as having a Parla love in day today. The more I look the more I am transfixed by what he does (god knows how much I woudl ever get done if I had an original canvas at home - I'd probably just be hypnotized by the bloody thing!).
AND HIS LESTER SHOW STARTS ON MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that's fate

[graeme501]

when is the elms show ?