ninja
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by ninja on May 28, 2008 23:04:46 GMT 1, Obey Giant are no longer shipping with the US Postal Service for International orders. As part of their improvement process it is UPS only and that comes at a premium. I just gave it a try on the website and the cost of shipping a print to the UK is $80.23. That's before you get caught by customs (pretty much a stick on in my experience with UPS) and pay a bit extra to UPS for paying the customs charge on your behalf to expedite the process.
Ouch. It's looking like the secondary market now for non-US residents although Obey claim to be trying to put a stop to that at the moment as well.
It will need to be a pretty special print before I shell out that kind of money on shipping for a $35 piece of art.
Obey Giant are no longer shipping with the US Postal Service for International orders. As part of their improvement process it is UPS only and that comes at a premium. I just gave it a try on the website and the cost of shipping a print to the UK is $80.23. That's before you get caught by customs (pretty much a stick on in my experience with UPS) and pay a bit extra to UPS for paying the customs charge on your behalf to expedite the process.
Ouch. It's looking like the secondary market now for non-US residents although Obey claim to be trying to put a stop to that at the moment as well.
It will need to be a pretty special print before I shell out that kind of money on shipping for a $35 piece of art.
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by Happy Shopper on May 29, 2008 0:22:34 GMT 1, ยฃ60-ยฃ70 is still hardly a lot for an obey print !
I don't think you should get taxed for these either. Only tends to be the ones over ยฃ100 (or so) where I've been caught out.
ยฃ60-ยฃ70 is still hardly a lot for an obey print !
I don't think you should get taxed for these either. Only tends to be the ones over ยฃ100 (or so) where I've been caught out.
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ninja
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by ninja on May 29, 2008 7:54:40 GMT 1, ยฃ60-ยฃ70 is still hardly a lot for an obey print ! I don't think you should get taxed for these either. Only tends to be the ones over ยฃ100 (or so) where I've been caught out.
Customs and Excise say ยฃ18. In my experience of UPS, if it is any more than that then UPS will just pay the duty because they have delivery timescales to meet.
ยฃ70 is a lot for a $35 (or in the test conducted last night with More Militerry $25) print.
ยฃ60-ยฃ70 is still hardly a lot for an obey print ! I don't think you should get taxed for these either. Only tends to be the ones over ยฃ100 (or so) where I've been caught out. Customs and Excise say ยฃ18. In my experience of UPS, if it is any more than that then UPS will just pay the duty because they have delivery timescales to meet. ยฃ70 is a lot for a $35 (or in the test conducted last night with More Militerry $25) print. |
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Winter
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by Winter on May 29, 2008 8:05:12 GMT 1, Noticed the Obama print went for ยฃ1230 this week on ebay. I'm guessing that will go up if he becomes President. I reckon the majority sold to the UK given the time of release.
Noticed the Obama print went for ยฃ1230 this week on ebay. I'm guessing that will go up if he becomes President. I reckon the majority sold to the UK given the time of release.
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Daan
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by Daan on May 29, 2008 8:26:46 GMT 1, So you are saying they just should sell those to cover the now absurd shipping charges for the near future?
Shipping a tube from the US to Europe need cost no more than $15,30. All the prints I bought from Rene Gagnon arrived within a week after being shipped with usps for that amount in postage.
So you are saying they just should sell those to cover the now absurd shipping charges for the near future?
Shipping a tube from the US to Europe need cost no more than $15,30. All the prints I bought from Rene Gagnon arrived within a week after being shipped with usps for that amount in postage.
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ninja
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by ninja on May 29, 2008 8:27:00 GMT 1, Noticed the Obama print went for ยฃ1230 this week on ebay. I'm guessing that will go up if he becomes President. I reckon the majority sold to the UK given the time of release.
I have one of those, well two if you count the mini version released later to try and bring prices of the first release down. I don't think I'll be buying too many prints with $80 postage now though.
Noticed the Obama print went for ยฃ1230 this week on ebay. I'm guessing that will go up if he becomes President. I reckon the majority sold to the UK given the time of release. I have one of those, well two if you count the mini version released later to try and bring prices of the first release down. I don't think I'll be buying too many prints with $80 postage now though. |
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by mcnuts on May 29, 2008 8:52:06 GMT 1, that amount of postage seems absurd
that amount of postage seems absurd
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b4life
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by b4life on May 29, 2008 16:01:53 GMT 1, sorry as i this might sound obnoxious but where is the best place to buy obey prints?
sorry as i this might sound obnoxious but where is the best place to buy obey prints?
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shower
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by shower on May 29, 2008 16:03:47 GMT 1, ebay! if not the official obey site obeygiant.com/
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b4life
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by b4life on May 29, 2008 16:08:53 GMT 1, cheers bud
cheers bud
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Heavyconsumer
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by Heavyconsumer on May 29, 2008 16:11:54 GMT 1, Not bothered, it's been a long time since he's released anything I'd buy anyway. And I'm seriously put off now by the amount of rubbish he's released. I just can't understand how all these prints sell out so fast, they look like boring promo posters to me. No offense intended to any Obey fans. Backlash awaited.
Not bothered, it's been a long time since he's released anything I'd buy anyway. And I'm seriously put off now by the amount of rubbish he's released. I just can't understand how all these prints sell out so fast, they look like boring promo posters to me. No offense intended to any Obey fans. Backlash awaited.
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by melmoth on May 29, 2008 17:04:23 GMT 1, Not bothered, it's been a long time since he's released anything I'd buy anyway. And I'm seriously put off now by the amount of rubbish he's released. I just can't understand how all these prints sell out so fast, they look like boring promo posters to me. No offense intended to any Obey fans. Backlash awaited.
I consider myself a fan, but Fairey has not exactly covered himself with glory with regards to the quality of the work this year. The majority of the prints in 2008 appear to be promotional pieces for records or stores, etc. - the prints available today are also related to a record company.
Also, the way that they have handled selling pritns this year, so far, has been extremely disappointing and frustrating. There are multiple instances in which their server has had severe problems. The way that they handled these problems, from a customer service standpoint, has been a joke - anyone remember the Peace Bomber fiasco?
I hope that the new shopping cart system works properly, and that they revisit the UPS issue. The shipping rates are ridiculous for overseas shipping.
Not bothered, it's been a long time since he's released anything I'd buy anyway. And I'm seriously put off now by the amount of rubbish he's released. I just can't understand how all these prints sell out so fast, they look like boring promo posters to me. No offense intended to any Obey fans. Backlash awaited. I consider myself a fan, but Fairey has not exactly covered himself with glory with regards to the quality of the work this year. The majority of the prints in 2008 appear to be promotional pieces for records or stores, etc. - the prints available today are also related to a record company. Also, the way that they have handled selling pritns this year, so far, has been extremely disappointing and frustrating. There are multiple instances in which their server has had severe problems. The way that they handled these problems, from a customer service standpoint, has been a joke - anyone remember the Peace Bomber fiasco? I hope that the new shopping cart system works properly, and that they revisit the UPS issue. The shipping rates are ridiculous for overseas shipping. |
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ninja
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by ninja on May 29, 2008 17:21:28 GMT 1, Not bothered, it's been a long time since he's released anything I'd buy anyway. And I'm seriously put off now by the amount of rubbish he's released. I just can't understand how all these prints sell out so fast, they look like boring promo posters to me. No offense intended to any Obey fans. Backlash awaited. I consider myself a fan, but Fairey has not exactly covered himself with glory with regards to the quality of the work this year. The majority of the prints in 2008 appear to be promotional pieces for records or stores, etc. - the prints available today are also related to a record company. Also, the way that they have handled selling pritns this year, so far, has been extremely disappointing and frustrating. There are multiple instances in which their server has had severe problems. The way that they handled these problems, from a customer service standpoint, has been a joke - anyone remember the Peace Bomber fiasco? I hope that the new shopping cart system works properly, and that they revisit the UPS issue. The shipping rates are ridiculous for overseas shipping.
The International shipping rates should cut down the number of hits the server takes at release time. I predict a smooth release this evening.
Not bothered, it's been a long time since he's released anything I'd buy anyway. And I'm seriously put off now by the amount of rubbish he's released. I just can't understand how all these prints sell out so fast, they look like boring promo posters to me. No offense intended to any Obey fans. Backlash awaited. I consider myself a fan, but Fairey has not exactly covered himself with glory with regards to the quality of the work this year. The majority of the prints in 2008 appear to be promotional pieces for records or stores, etc. - the prints available today are also related to a record company. Also, the way that they have handled selling pritns this year, so far, has been extremely disappointing and frustrating. There are multiple instances in which their server has had severe problems. The way that they handled these problems, from a customer service standpoint, has been a joke - anyone remember the Peace Bomber fiasco? I hope that the new shopping cart system works properly, and that they revisit the UPS issue. The shipping rates are ridiculous for overseas shipping. The International shipping rates should cut down the number of hits the server takes at release time. I predict a smooth release this evening. |
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Heavyconsumer
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by Heavyconsumer on May 29, 2008 17:37:21 GMT 1, Guys, I am NOT in the IT business, but good friends of mine are and are basically as good as it gets in terms of experience with such systems. I am reliably informed that the problems with online ordering systems crashing, such as used to happen with POW and still happens with many of their competitors, is totally unrelated to server/hardware issues in most cases, which are solved very easily. It's a case of having the database structured the right way to interact with the site's ordering activities, which again is very sortable, if you have the right people working on it, which apparently Obey and BRP to name a couple, do not. Such services are not cheap, although when one stops to consider the sales volumes these companies do, I can't see how they don't think ยฃ5-10k or even ยฃ15k (an unlikely amount, but not beyond the realms of possibility I guess) is a price they should pay, to enhance their customers' buying experiences - customers who are after all very loyal. I put it down to greed and profit margins. Even if it were a server issue, what does a decent new server cost to put in a rack somewhere? It's peanuts to these guys! POW get hundreds of thousands of hits at release time and their system doesn't crash, server shmerver!
Guys, I am NOT in the IT business, but good friends of mine are and are basically as good as it gets in terms of experience with such systems. I am reliably informed that the problems with online ordering systems crashing, such as used to happen with POW and still happens with many of their competitors, is totally unrelated to server/hardware issues in most cases, which are solved very easily. It's a case of having the database structured the right way to interact with the site's ordering activities, which again is very sortable, if you have the right people working on it, which apparently Obey and BRP to name a couple, do not. Such services are not cheap, although when one stops to consider the sales volumes these companies do, I can't see how they don't think ยฃ5-10k or even ยฃ15k (an unlikely amount, but not beyond the realms of possibility I guess) is a price they should pay, to enhance their customers' buying experiences - customers who are after all very loyal. I put it down to greed and profit margins. Even if it were a server issue, what does a decent new server cost to put in a rack somewhere? It's peanuts to these guys! POW get hundreds of thousands of hits at release time and their system doesn't crash, server shmerver!
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by thebleedingedge on May 29, 2008 17:51:05 GMT 1, yeah, your friends in IT who are on top of their game put it down the to database eh? Don't be silly. The database is the end point in the tranaction (point C) and the problem you are talking about occurs at the entry point (Point A), which would mean it was due to insufficient infrastructure at the transport level, which in human means they are either making an artificial bottleneck with some of their software (misconfiguration or s**t software) or they don't have enough of a particular resource which is down to hardware (need a fatter pipe or more RAM etc).
Online order systems don't crash, those are collections of scripts that take under a second to run, the server on which those scripts sit can crash though.
They just need to make the operation more scalable, it wouldn't cost them more than 2 days and ยฃ500
yeah, your friends in IT who are on top of their game put it down the to database eh? Don't be silly. The database is the end point in the tranaction (point C) and the problem you are talking about occurs at the entry point (Point A), which would mean it was due to insufficient infrastructure at the transport level, which in human means they are either making an artificial bottleneck with some of their software (misconfiguration or s**t software) or they don't have enough of a particular resource which is down to hardware (need a fatter pipe or more RAM etc).
Online order systems don't crash, those are collections of scripts that take under a second to run, the server on which those scripts sit can crash though.
They just need to make the operation more scalable, it wouldn't cost them more than 2 days and ยฃ500
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Heavyconsumer
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by Heavyconsumer on May 29, 2008 17:58:32 GMT 1, Well, while I don't have sufficient technical knowledge to discount what your saying, I assure you my source (who will remain anonymous) is far more reliable than you might imagine and his case has been proven so far as I'm concerned. However, even if you're 100% correct, you just illustrate my point further. If said companies can't pull their finger out for a relatively tiny additional cost, they don't deserve the artists' loyalties. It's them that have control as the customers will follow the artists not buy whatever the gallery has on offer (unless we're talking about you know who).
Well, while I don't have sufficient technical knowledge to discount what your saying, I assure you my source (who will remain anonymous) is far more reliable than you might imagine and his case has been proven so far as I'm concerned. However, even if you're 100% correct, you just illustrate my point further. If said companies can't pull their finger out for a relatively tiny additional cost, they don't deserve the artists' loyalties. It's them that have control as the customers will follow the artists not buy whatever the gallery has on offer (unless we're talking about you know who).
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Daan
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by Daan on May 29, 2008 18:23:55 GMT 1, I must say that seeing that their new shopping cart solutions is the $575 x-cart package doesnt seem like they are taking it all too serious. I agree that on the volume they sell they could and should invest in a robust tailor made solution.
I must say that seeing that their new shopping cart solutions is the $575 x-cart package doesnt seem like they are taking it all too serious. I agree that on the volume they sell they could and should invest in a robust tailor made solution.
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by thebleedingedge on May 29, 2008 18:30:01 GMT 1, Well quite. I wear hoodies so I am in no way to be confused with someone who is credible, but it does seem that if the software that uses resources connects to a database then the database wouldn't get connected to if said resources ran out.
I would also love to point out that if the "$575 x-cart package" means www.x-cart.com/ then they are indeed monkeys seeing as that is just a rebranded version of a package called Open Source Commerce, which as the name suggests, is open source and therefor... free to use and modify.
Well quite. I wear hoodies so I am in no way to be confused with someone who is credible, but it does seem that if the software that uses resources connects to a database then the database wouldn't get connected to if said resources ran out. I would also love to point out that if the "$575 x-cart package" means www.x-cart.com/ then they are indeed monkeys seeing as that is just a rebranded version of a package called Open Source Commerce, which as the name suggests, is open source and therefor... free to use and modify. |
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Gentle Mental
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by Gentle Mental on May 29, 2008 20:05:40 GMT 1, well... it's up.
well... it's up.
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ninja
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by ninja on May 29, 2008 20:17:11 GMT 1,
My prediction of less carnage as a result of the increased International shipping costs certainly hasn't materialised.
My prediction of less carnage as a result of the increased International shipping costs certainly hasn't materialised. |
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by Gentle Mental on May 29, 2008 20:36:04 GMT 1, oooh... this look pretty nasty.... think it's going to be a looooong night..
oooh... this look pretty nasty.... think it's going to be a looooong night..
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theb
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by theb on May 29, 2008 20:51:54 GMT 1, Has anyone gotten the Obey Giant site to work today (or since the new posting) I can't even pull down quantity even after it takes 10 times to get to the store page. Once I hit add to cart it just reloads. . . Any Luck?
Thanks
B
Has anyone gotten the Obey Giant site to work today (or since the new posting) I can't even pull down quantity even after it takes 10 times to get to the store page. Once I hit add to cart it just reloads. . . Any Luck?
Thanks
B
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by robertlondon on May 29, 2008 20:55:04 GMT 1, If you right click the "cold chilling blue" and open it in a separate page then you'll get the quantity drop down - however I haven't got any further than that!
If you right click the "cold chilling blue" and open it in a separate page then you'll get the quantity drop down - however I haven't got any further than that!
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by spenie1975 on May 29, 2008 21:00:31 GMT 1, Got to checkout but only just noticed the cost of postage, going to pass on this one now.
Got to checkout but only just noticed the cost of postage, going to pass on this one now.
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theb
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by theb on May 29, 2008 21:06:14 GMT 1, Got it in the cart, got to the cart, got to paypal, got back and it crashed. . . grrrrr. . .
Got it in the cart, got to the cart, got to paypal, got back and it crashed. . . grrrrr. . .
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by thebleedingedge on May 29, 2008 21:08:30 GMT 1, someone go and tell shep I will fix his site for some paint
someone go and tell shep I will fix his site for some paint
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by spenie1975 on May 29, 2008 21:08:51 GMT 1, just keep refreshing your way through it
just keep refreshing your way through it
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theb
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by theb on May 29, 2008 21:20:14 GMT 1, Muscled my way through it! But got it!
Thanks
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Muscled my way through it! But got it!
Thanks
B
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by spenie1975 on May 29, 2008 21:25:14 GMT 1, Muscled my way through it! But got it! Thanks B
Nice one, Red or Blue?
Muscled my way through it! But got it! Thanks B Nice one, Red or Blue? |
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theb
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Obey Giant 'Improvements', by theb on May 29, 2008 21:28:42 GMT 1, I got one of each. Kind of like blue best, but will see. Could also put them up next to each other.
I got one of each. Kind of like blue best, but will see. Could also put them up next to each other.
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