WCP The West Country Prince

[klyde]

Its not like these are an alternative to buying Banksy.

All his prints are sold out. He made his money. He would make much more if he could be bothered. He is a major cash cow he doesnt milk.

The people that buy WCP will NEVER buy these prints for their absurd secondary market price.

It wont affect the folder hoarders and their 8 year old mint smoke and pet free home never framed bits of paper that hide under theirs beds years after year.


Its just wall decoration, LOL!

[Shoot Again]

^ Agree with Otomi. I think this sums it up : Buy a fake if you want, just don't boast about it on this Forum cos some of us (hopefully most of us) don't care about people hanging every fake print available on their walls (not much space left on their walls for real artists then !) and have a (moral) issue with WCP making money on the back of an artist we all like...

[misterx]

Sept 22, 2012 4:56:57 GMT 1 nex said:

Sept 22, 2012 3:39:19 GMT 1 misterx said:

What a storm in a teacup!

My dogs called Banksy...have I lost my moral compass?
Do you feel so strongly about fake Rolex's or Nike running socks??

Buy what you like...if that includes WCP's, so what?

Not for you nex? Thats fine....move on, dont sweat the small stuff!

I've been on this site on and off for 5 years I've followed the graf world for over twenty, when I see what it's become and the parasites living off it I get pissed... But I get pissed by people's inability to have an intelligent discussion and deal with confrontation in an intelligent manner - it's a microcosm of the world so forgive me for giving a s**t

mate, I respect your passion, but disagree with you.Thats it. We are all different.I couldnt give two shitz what you have hanging on your walls or whether its gen or not..you see it differently.
Apologies if thats not seen as intelligent debate, but thats all I got at the mo.

And what about those fake Nike running socks?
Are you as aggrieved about those?

[iamzero]

Sept 22, 2012 7:45:54 GMT 1 klyde said:

Its not like these are an alternative to buying Banksy.

All his prints are sold out. He made his money. He would make much more if he could be bothered. He is a major cash cow he doesnt milk.

The people that buy WCP will NEVER buy these prints for their absurd secondary market price.

It wont affect the folder hoarders and their 8 year old mint smoke and pet free home never framed bits of paper that hide under theirs beds years after year.


Its just wall decoration, LOL!

Sums it up for me.

Interested to know just how many people that are getting all hot under the collar about these actually already have the good fortune to own a real Banksy already? Whole I'm stood in the post office queue waiting for Kate.

[jeffro]

Sept 22, 2012 5:30:11 GMT 1 otomi said:

My problem is that WCP is making money with it.
Banksy and POW worked hard for many years to get where they are.
Without people buying his stuff from him he would be working a 9-5 job for the last 10 years.
A long time ago Banksy sold his very early stuff cheaper than WCP now. (15 for a barcode ...)
The problem is making money with other peoples work/ideas.

Let's say you copy an album from a friend that is ok but if that friend makes hundreds of copies and sells them that I find wrong.

If you can't afford a 4000pound print so what there are hundreds of other cheaper artists. Put some time and effort into it and find something you like - unless you want to pretend to you have a real a Banksy.

Of all the places on the internet this should not be the place to celebrate fakes.

So your saying if you can't afford a banksy you cant have one on your wall. that's Bulls**t. So if you was lucky to buy one of his prints back in the day for 20 - 50 quid you think your better then people of today as they can't afford the asking price of 4000 and they should buy s**t prints by other artists that they might not like. That just wrong I'm lucky enoff to be able to afford these carzy prices but I won't pay them as I've got better things to spend my money on. My walls are rammed with other artists and I've spent over 25k on art over the years. If banksy was so botherd about it he would up his print sizes so others could buy them that want them and not just for the wankers that ass lick him and on the winner loto list all the time. Banksy prints are not just for rich people but for anyone that loves his work

[dirtypete]

I think this thread is fascinating , although a few people’s views are running a bit hot.

I'll hold my hand high above my head and admit that I have brought an 'I fought the law' and 'Kate Moss' from WCP. My reasons for this were fairly simple, I love the images and the allure of owning some affordable screen print versions was too much of a temptation.

I was lucky enough to stumble upon Banksy when prints hung around for months, cost £20 and I could never understand why someone would pay an extra £100 for a pencil signature. While the ever rising price of street art prints was a trill to begin with it then tainted the scene (although the £50 thread does help me keep the faith).

I quickly got board of missing out on prints that I loved, only to see them being flipped. Personally I can't understand why Banksy doesn't produce some unlimited runs for a limited period, like Josh Keyes does on Tiny Showcase. That way everyone who likes the image can buy it at a reasonable price and Banksy/a charity can make some money. Another alternative would be to release the whole of his back catalogue as high quality giclee, but I’m sure some true ‘art lovers’ would complain that it cheapens their investments.

My Kate Moss will not be kept in a bank vault or a portfolio, but will be hung up in a sunny corner of my kitchen, slowly fading as the sunlight basks her in glory. I will know that it is a cheap reproduction, but it will not affect my enjoyment of the image in the slightest.

I’ll sleep safe in the knowledge that Banksy won’t take offence or legal action.

[Graffiti Prints]

Sept 22, 2012 11:49:11 GMT 1 dirtypete said:

Another alternative would be to release the whole of his back catalogue as high quality giclee, but I’m sure some true ‘art lovers’ would complain that it cheapens their investments.

I’ll sleep safe in the knowledge that Banksy won’t take offence or legal action.

be a uprising here if he did that

yes banksy could not give 2 shits about wcp or other fakes only people with unsigned ones and signed do for obvious reasons yet the artist really does not care.

[Dr Plip]

Sept 22, 2012 16:26:15 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

This should be the final word.

You're welcome to download whatever you wish from this site for personal use. However, making your own art or merchandise and passing it off as ‘official’ or authentic Banksy artwork is bad and very wrong. ~ Banksy

So........Banksy says, while WCP isn't passing the prints off as authentic Banksy items, they are using his images for something other than personal use. So Banksy says NO?

[curiousgeorge]

Did I read recently someone purchased a framed print only to find it was a WCP when opened?

[Dr Plip]

Oct 4, 2012 14:09:30 GMT 1 curiousgeorge said:

Wow negged for pointing out what a massive can of worms these 'copies' can create

Call me old fashioned but I'm not cool with people potentially losing multiple 1000's

It's probably WCP....

Don't neg me!

[curiousgeorge]

WCP is a member???

Who knew...

[curiousgeorge]

3 negs now for asking if someone got stung with a WCP print

Pretty clear which direction this forum is heading now

[kunstrasen]

Oct 4, 2012 14:45:26 GMT 1 curiousgeorge said:

3 negs now for asking if someone got stung with a WCP print

Pretty clear which direction this forum is heading now

Have a +1 for posting this.

[Dr Plip]

Oct 4, 2012 14:45:26 GMT 1 curiousgeorge said:

3 negs now for asking if someone got stung with a WCP print

Pretty clear which direction this forum is heading now

Actually more negs than that, as I gave you a +1 earlier.

[klyde]

Oct 4, 2012 14:45:26 GMT 1 curiousgeorge said:

3 negs now for asking if someone got stung with a WCP print

Pretty clear which direction this forum is heading now

I just negged you for caring about negs.

[tab1]

What's to stop the wcp outfit producing prints without his stamps on the back and being passed off as backdoor prints

[Deleted]

Nov 9, 2012 21:45:50 GMT 1 tab1 said:

What's to stop the wcp outfit producing prints without his stamps on the back and being passed off as backdoor prints

Or whats to stop him just churning out more of what he says is a limited run?, integrity?.

[Snakes]

Ps. I have a WCP welcome to hell rat that someone can have for £25 inc postage if they want as I have happy choppers, laugh now and turf war and three banksy prints on the wall is enough for me.
Cheers
James

[rowan]

Be nice if WCP did a run of Nola prints...

[iamzero]

I'm guessing whoever WCP is they surely have an extensive Original Banksy print collection by now from which they take the copies from? I wonder if the reason the Kate wasn't spot on is because of the difficulty in gaining access to a genuine print?

[Dr Plip]

Nov 18, 2012 23:11:53 GMT 1 iamzero said:

I'm guessing whoever WCP is they surely by now have an extensive Original Banksy print collection by now from which they take the copies from? I wonder if the reason the Kate wasn't spot on is because of the difficulty in gaining access to a genuine print?

Could the Kate have been taken from a postcard? And if it's more than one collector involved, it wouldn't be too hard to gather the originals.

Saying that, could you imagine going to your local small business advisor with this business plan. "Hello, I'd like to borrow £100,000 so I can purchase some original Banksy prints, which I will then scan, reproduce, and then sell on eBay"

[sam11]

That's what I'm hoping they'll do!! Hopefully the WCP read this and will do a run of Nola prints

Nov 18, 2012 22:55:47 GMT 1 rowan said:

Be nice if WCP did a run of Nola prints...

[payney]

Nov 20, 2012 8:54:23 GMT 1 sam11 said:

That's what I'm hoping they'll do!! Hopefully the WCP read this and will do a run of Nola prints

Nov 18, 2012 22:55:47 GMT 1 rowan said:

Be nice if WCP did a run of Nola prints...

Next week I heard, with different colorways?

[manty]

Nov 18, 2012 23:43:55 GMT 1 Dr Plip said:

Nov 18, 2012 23:11:53 GMT 1 iamzero said:

I'm guessing whoever WCP is they surely by now have an extensive Original Banksy print collection by now from which they take the copies from? I wonder if the reason the Kate wasn't spot on is because of the difficulty in gaining access to a genuine print?

Could the Kate have been taken from a postcard? And if it's more than one collector involved, it wouldn't be too hard to gather the originals.

Saying that, could you imagine going to your local small business advisor with this business plan. "Hello, I'd like to borrow £100,000 so I can purchase some original Banksy prints, which I will then scan, reproduce, and then sell on eBay"

have you been hacking my word files?

[sparkplug]

Jan 11, 2013 10:04:13 GMT 1 Joe Valentino said:

so the limited edition fakes are no longer limited edition?

It seems as, in the style of Sunday B Mornings, the "Editions of 50" are down to the WCP Stamp colour on the verso - 50 red, 50 blue, 50 black etc etc

[alittle]

WCP will not send these out unstamped. That rumour is untrue.

[Deleted]

Just noticed there's a Nola repro up now .....

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BANKSY-NOLA-SCREEN-PRINT-/251237110687?pt=UK_art_prints_GL&hash=item3a7ee6139f

Can't remember seeing the WCP do it before. 8 sold already

[Happy Go Lucky Chap]

I bought a few WCP in the past - not overly impressed with them close up, but ok on the wall behind glass. Am also tempted with the Nola, but might hold off until the APs become available!

[james]

how many colourways have there been of Kate by WCP? I was close to purchasing the purple before it went. I suppose there'll be more of other colourways to come...

[summoner]

Thought I would interject in the whole real/fake discussion. I do own a real Banksy, Jack & Jill, and after getting this framed and on the wall my girlfriends 10yr old daughter wanted to see more work done by Banksy. She is a huge fan of my Shep collection and lights up every time a new one hits the door. She and I got to looking at some of Banksy's prints and she flipped over Girl with Red Balloon. I remembered seeing that WCP had some, so I figured what the hell and picked one up. I kept it a secret from her until just yesterday when I picked up an Ikea frame, had the glass swapped out for UV Plexi and put this up in her room.

In it's simplest form art comes down to the image and the connection with that image to the person looking at it. Does she care that it's not a 10K+ authenticated Banksy? Not in the slightest, but by the reaction she has you would have thought that it was. That is all that really matters, at least to me.